Mystery car pix

stephen987

The stripped down vehicle is the remains of a VW Beetle. Can't tell the year. . .

fintail

The red car does look Mazda-ish, but small for a Luce.

The Detroit iron should be easy, I will leave it for others :shades:

stephen987

I was wondering if the red car previously identified as a Mazda Luce might instead be a Datsun 410/411.

fintail

I googled the 410/11...the rear quarter panel is different. It's very distinctive in that old pic...it has to be the clue.

I wonder if it could also be a weird old Isuzu or something which sold a few examples during those smalltime importer days.

lemko

The "Kenosha Iron" in the picture is a 1962 Rambler Classic.

andys120

Yes, that is what a Beetle based Dune Buggy looks like before they put the body on.
Judging by the seats it's a '50s or early 60's model.

andys120

The "Kenosha Iron" in the picture is a 1962 Rambler Classic.

I'll buy that.

andys120

I wonder if it could also be a weird old Isuzu or something which sold a few examples during those smalltime importer days.

Hmmm, could it be an Isuzu Bellet (not sold in USA AFAIK but the picture's from CDN).>

Mr_Shiftright

I think the Bellet was sold here actually.

fintail

That's it, the rear quarter looks right.

There was one of those on local craigslist several months ago, and it was even a diesel. I had half-baked thoughts of giving it a look...extreme weirdness quotient there.

Mr_Shiftright

You know, I'm thinking it WAS the diesel that was sold here.

fintail

Isuzu was pretty big on diesels in the old days, wasn't it? We can't forget those lovely diesel Isuzu-Buick-Opel crossbred models.

Now that I think of it, the car that was for sale locally wasn't a Bellett, but a Bellel. Brilliant idea to make names so similar. But it was a diesel, something like this:



Still pretty weird.

Mr_Shiftright

thank you for confusing me entirely :P

andys120

imidazol97

It's a Pontiac. But it has extra striping and a label above the rear taillight that's not US, from what I can see. It it Australian or Canadian? The overhang behind the rear wheel looks shorter than a premium model indicated by the "excess" of chrome, so I suspect it's a Cheviac?

lostwrench1

1957 Pontiac Bonneville.

andys120

It certainly is not Australian (I don't think Pontiacs were sold there and it's LHD). I think you're overthinking this one. It is a Poncho, anyone want to be more specific?

imidazol97

I hadn't come up with a picture of a Bonneville as lostwrench identified it until later when I searched for that word "Bonneville" for a '57. That's it.

I am used to some coming up with variations on cars that aren't quite what my provincial mind thinks they are. :shades:

andys120

1957 Pontiac Bonneville

Yup, to be exact it's a 1957 Pontiac Star Chief Custom Bonneville.

I'm not sure why it looks short to Imidazol, perhaps his monitor needs adjusting.

andys120

Do you know-

Year/make/model?

Non-standard option visible on car?

Name of show?

Names of actors?

Names of characters?>

kyfdx

Sunset Strip?

'62 Vette?

lemko

..I'm thinking Route 66. The car is a 1962 Corvette and one of the actors is Martin Milner. I forget the other guy's name.

jwilliams2

Maybe a 1962 Corvette in Route 66, with Martin Milner as Tod Stiles and George Maharis as Buz Murdock??

andys120

You're correct except that the car is a '61, not a '62. 1962 models did not have the chrome strip outlining the cove on the side. Route 66 ran from 1960 to 1964 and a new Corvette was featured every year. The first episode (aired 10/7/60) featured a 1960 model that shared the same non-standard feature as the '61 in the picture.

Can you see it in this photo of the original episode?>

tmart

50-50 chance. Gotta be either the luggage rack or the spinner wheels.

Edit: Lets go a third, a third, a third. The dash mounted rear view mirror.

andys120

Those spinner wheels are Kelsey-Hayes wires that were an expensive option on certain 1950s American cars. I've never seen them on a Corvette but they must have been a factory option because the producers of Route 66 got their cars from Chevy division directly. Those were real load-bearing wire wheels, not covers but I suspect that the spinners were fake. The wires appeared on the '60 & '61 Route 66 but the '62 and later cars had the standard stamped disc wheels w wheel covers (those also had fake spinners).

The luggage rack was another factory option commonly seen on all sorts of sports cars of the day. The dash-mounted mirror was standard issue on all C1 Corvettes.
It ididn't move up to the windshield frame until the C2 (Sting Ray) came out in '63.

andys120

cooterbfd

'48 Master Conv.???

lostwrench1

I agree. 1948 Chevy Fleetmaster.

cooterbfd

Fleetmaster, or Master Deluxe?

lostwrench1

andys120

Yup, it's a 1948 Chevrolet Master Convertible.

texases

0 miles, of course:

cooterbfd

Some sort of MG??

andys120

The pair of big SU carbs sez "British". I'd guess it's an MG-B, post '68.

texases

Not an MG....

Mr_Shiftright

I'm gonna take this because I spent so many years taking these apart.

This is a Volvo B18 engine from a model122/123 that someone spent more money on than the car is worth. :P

Probably a late 60s, 4-speed car.

Actually I suppose it could be a B20. They look the same, but it's not a B20E because it's not injected! It should be a B18 though. It's not a B16 because the oil filler cap isn't in the middle and the valve cover isn't chrome. Power brake suggests later 122 model.

Good engine!

texases

Yep, a Volvo, in an Amazon, pic from the Amazon web site

Mr_Shiftright

Ah, a 1966 model I see. The B18 was one of the best engines in the world IMO. I have never seen one with a thrown rod. I'm sure it has happened, but it's very unusual. People sometimes put these in MG TCs and TDs--that is, the people who I haven't killed already for doing that. You'll also find them in period kit cars, and in small runabouts, in their marine configuration. Sometimes people put B20E heads on them because of the larger valves, and a special camshaft to eliminate inherent camshaft weaknesses in the B18.

andys120

pitter

And any additional info like year and model. Thanks!

pitter

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pitter

And if so can you tell me what´s up with the heavy duty front hub. I looked underneathe and it´s a rear wheel drive vehicle.

andys120

Ford Anglia 105E made by Ford at Dagenham UK 1959-68.

andys120

That's a Hino Contessa 1300 ca. early 1960s. Pitter, may I suggest you post these one or two at a time, you'll get better responses that way.

bhill2

Pitter, may I suggest you post these one or two at a time, you'll get better responses that way.

Also (and this plea goes to anyone who posts pictures), please size the pictures properly. I got behind and had about 40 posts to go through, and literally could not get the text to all be readable, even by telling to to go to the post after an oversized picture, because there was no sequence of 20 posts that did not contain at least one oversized picture.

1whldr

A delightful early 60s Fiat 1100

1whldr

Looks like a "tuned" GAZ-69.
I like the Mack decal.