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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    A late 50's - early 60's Willy's Jeep FC. Stretched chassis means maybe a 170 series? Poor man's cab over look truck! I always kind of liked these, but don't really know why.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited September 2013
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Yep, the craiglist's ad's title is "1957 Forward Control FC170 Jeep Pick Up". More pics there until the ad dies.

    Asking $12,500 for it in Laguna Hills and a couple of the editors here want to add it to the long term fleet. :)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Sounds overpriced by a fair sum. Rust and crappy paint for $12,500? I don't think so. Try $7500.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    But, but, it's rare. :-)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited September 2013
    But, but...give ME the $12,500 and I'll magically find yet another rare one.

    Actually, I know of 2 that are much nicer but neither for sale at the moment. However, wave $12,5K in front of them and things might perk up. :)
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Oddly spotted this at same time as hearing the story on the news.

    It is a Renault 4. Apparently it is 29 years old and has 190,000 miles on it.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited September 2013
    Yes mate, 1984 Renault 8 is correct, no doubt only driven by a little old lady on Sundays.

    Actually it belongs to a priest who is selling it to Francis I who is planning to drive it himself.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,464
    some sort of Opel? Convertible Adam (does that make it an Eve?)

    whatever, I want one.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Yes, an Opel, but not related to the Adam.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yes, an Opel, but not related to the Adam.

    It's more closely related to the Buick Verano and the Chevy Cruze.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The Buick part fits but my impeccable source says it's not based on the Verano.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    It's the Opel Cascada - based on the Verano architecture, it's not coming to North America in this iteration. Like the Adam, it wasn't designed with the US as a market.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    GM Close To Importing Opel Cascada Convertible to U.S.

    The impeccable source says:

    "The Cascada is loosely based on the Opel Insignia/Buick Regal, and would probably be offered with some of the engines offered in the Regal. GM Opel sources also suggest that Opel may again supply Regals to the U.S., as it did early in the model's life."

    Whatever the underpinnings, it does sound nice.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    I think your source is mistaken. My source indicates that the Cascada is based on the compact Delta II Platform whereas
    the larger Insignia/Regal reside on the larger Epsilon Platform. (Opel Vectra, Chevy Malibu). This makes sense because the Cascada isn't all that big (IOW closer to an Astra than a Vectra).

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    This article:

    http://www.autoblog.com/2013/06/24/gm-ceo-akerson-wishes-opel-cascada-adam-were-- sold-in-buick-show/

    notes that the Cascada was not designed to meet US standards and that it's based on Delta II ie the Verano.

    That doesn't mean it can't come here. It just needs to be modified to do so.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    No feelings hurt. :-) Feel free to let our correspondent know your findings in the comments to the article (although the writer did hedge his bets a bit by saying "loosely").
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    edited September 2013
    Been away for a few days so catching up - the red Opel in the 70's photo is an Ascona. Also, there is a Mini Mk II Estate car hidden behind the red pot plant - it could be either an Austin Mini Countryman or a Morris Mini Traveller, but given the continental setting it might even be something by Innocenti..
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    1946 Plymouth
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yes indeed and how is this for a model name: 1946 Plymouth Special Six Deluxe?

    If you don't think lawyers have changed the way the world works, contemplate how many different cars of this era used names that included the words "Special"," Six" and "Deluxe".

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Late 40s Allard. I have never seen one in the metal but proportions look wrong in photos. Grille reminds me of something French.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,464
    could not get a picture to post last night.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    TVR Cerbera, similar to the one refreshed on the latest episode of Wheeler Dealers.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,464
    yup. that is why I thought of it, but I figured some people here watched the show too.

    looked like a fun car.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited September 2013
    Yup, that's a 1948 Allard M1 of which around 500 were made from '47 to '50.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Found hiding under the hood of the Allard M1...

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    I think Allard were the first to mate an American V8 (Ford flathead V8) with a UK chassis. Someone will have a better recollection

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    I don't know if Allard was the first to use an American V8 in a British sports car but a lot of well known American race drivers found Allard V8s a potent weapon in sports car racing, one of them was a Texan named Carroll Shelby and you know the rest of the story.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Not sure either, but it was not the first to combine a large American engine into a British sports car---probably the pre-war Railton, with 8 cylinder Hudson power, has that claim.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    edited September 2013
    57 Ford. Club Wagon? Custom Wagon?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    A valiant try but NOPE. :)

    It is a '57 however. But it has a very distinctive name.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,471
    I had to look this one up, so I won't spill it. I will only say I was thinking Ranch Wagon, but I am pretty sure that name lasted until 1961 or so.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yes, this model was a one-year only nameplate.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    Yes, this model was a one-year only nameplate.

    I'm going to trust my memory (never a great idea) and say Del Rio.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,772
    Not as good looking as a Nomad.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    So where did the Del Rio fit in the pecking order compared to Ranch Wagon?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,471
    I would assume it was a deluxe trim package on an otherwise basic Ranch Wagon.

    Paled in comparison to a Nomad, which was a much more upmarket model.
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    I'll ask Dolores.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    I would assume it was a deluxe trim package on an otherwise basic Ranch Wagon.

    You are exactly right, Fin. I did some research and found that it was a Ranch Wagon (which was trimmed similar to a Custom) but with trim similar to a Fairlane. It wasn't a competitor to the Nomad.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    The Del Rio was a subset of the Ranch Wagon---a very basic 2-door wagon. It might have been inspired by the 2 door Nomad and Pontiac Safari, but it sure didn't compete with them.

    They marketed it as a "sport wagon" and it sold pretty well in '57, but not so much in '58 (I was wrong--it was actually a 2-year model, although Ford did everything possible to make sure it failed in '58).

    The Del Rio wasn't a total stripper--you could order special trim and upholstery and even a V8 engine. (The "Thunderbird" 312 cid).
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    There was a news article late last year in a UK paper about this. VW in Brazil did some unique models Including a pretty sports car called the "X Project" or something similar. I think they were based on a Variant underpinning.

    The news story was about a cache of complete cars and parts found in a warehouse. Juice will have a better idea

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yup, that's pretty much the story. It's a Volkswagen (do Brasil) SP2
    built on the 412 Platform and originally equipped w the same 1.7 pancake motor that powered US market 914s. They were built '72-'76.

    The earlier VW Puma GT was a lot sportier looking and a bit smaller.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Early 70's Buick LaSabre...
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