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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    What's the car in front of the black Convertible? 1969 Ford?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    In front of the Ford, behind the VW? Kind of reminds me of a GM bubbletop
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    The Chevy guys back in school sometimes referred to the 60 Ford as an aborted 59 Chevy.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    fintail said:

    In front of the Ford, behind the VW? Kind of reminds me of a GM bubbletop

    That's definitely the "bubbletop" roofline. The car could be any GM make except Caddy (IIRC they had different, less rounded 2dr h/t roofs).

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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,598
    OK, call me irresponsible, but with the crease at the top of the fender running over the front door handle I'm calling it a '61 Chevy sport coupe, probably an Impala.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    edited April 2016
    bhill2 said:

    '61 Chevy sport coupe, probably an Impala.

    I suggest a 1960 Chevy, maybe a sedan. In the right corner of the convertibles windshield I see a flat wing like the 1960 Chevy. It's distorted some by the windshield's curvature and it's right between the hub of the Ford's windshield wiper and the right edge of the windshield.
















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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I like that 61 Impala. The missing third rear light on the other models really made it apparent you didn't owl an Impala B)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    edited April 2016
    I posted the three Chevy pictures because I was trying to compare the various rear window and C-pillars with the one above the windshield of the Ford convertible in the picture. I also was looking at the left front fender shapes as seen past the windshield of the Ford. I think the 61 bubble top is the right fit.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    It's very hard to see but you can see (thru the convert's windshield) a ridge running up the side of that bubbletop
    which looks more to me like a '61 Chevy than a '60. The bubble top roof looks more rounded than it was on the 60.

    I think I've figured out how to account for the lack of import cars. The photo was probably taken on a Saturday morning and all the locals are in from the hills running errands while the VW/ Renault/.MG driving students are sleeping off their Fri night parties. B)

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Ima - I'm glad you posted the various models. Its nice to see pix of other than just top end models. They were common back in the old days.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Someone emailed wanting help ID'ing this car. The photo was taken in 1939. Thanks!


  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    andys120 said:



    Well. it's an Alfa Romeo Alfetta - is this the Alfetta 2.0 America ? - it looks like its got bumpers more suited to the US market and some trim items are different too.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    stever said:

    Someone emailed wanting help ID'ing this car. The photo was taken in 1939. Thanks!


    Would this be about a 1936 Willys 77 coupe? - the 35 had horizontal louvres and the 37 had artillery wheels so the portholes on the bonnet and the wire wheels would point to a 36...
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    I agree. Stupendously rare car in stock form today, those that weren't junked 70 years ago were rodded and drag raced away 50 years ago.
    magnette said:



    Would this be about a 1936 Willys 77 coupe? - the 35 had horizontal louvres and the 37 had artillery wheels so the portholes on the bonnet and the wire wheels would point to a 36...

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    I think some were sold in the US as just the "Sport Sedan". Definitely a US spec model. This model was Cameron's car in Ferris Bueller's Day Off:

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    magnette said:




    Well. it's an Alfa Romeo Alfetta - is this the Alfetta 2.0 America ? - it looks like its got bumpers more suited to the US market and some trim items are different too.

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited April 2016


    Well. it's an Alfa Romeo Alfetta - is this the Alfetta 2.0 America ? - it looks like its got bumpers more suited to the US market and some trim items are different too.

    Yup, it's a U.S.-spec 1979 Alfa-Romeo Alfetta Berlina equipped, as were all Alfettas,
    with the DeDion rear suspension and the rockin' 2.0.V6.

    It's a lot prettier than the 33/Milano sedans that followed.

    I can't recall the moniker "Sport Sedan" being applied to the Alfetta but it would've made sense since many assumed BMW invented the sport sedan. Actually the early1950s Alfa 1900 Ti was the first modern sport sedan.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    I've seen the "Sport Sedan" name used for the US market Alfetta. Here's an enthusiast ad referring to it as such, and there are several more references out there:

    http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/alfa-romeo-cars-sale-wanted/219057-1978-alfa-romeo-sport-sedan.html

    The red Corvair influenced thing is a NSU, likely a TT with the racing trim. They were formidable competitors for a while.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    fintail said:



    The red Corvair influenced thing is a NSU, likely a TT with the racing trim. They were formidable competitors for a while.

    Yup, that's a 1971 NSU Prinz TTS, NSU's last design before being absorbed into the VAG (IIRC)

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    1972 Plymouth Scamp?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Good call Texases, I was hoping someone would say Dodge Dart Swinger (they were badge engineer versions of the same car.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    I almost did, but then squinted and read "Scamp" on the side. My brother had the Dart version, ran for years with no problems.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Good call Texases, I was hoping someone would say Dodge Dart Swinger (they were badge engineer versions of the same car.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,934
    andys120 said:


    '73 911E (lots of guesses... I know it's a 911. lol_

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Might be earlier?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    edited April 2016
    I definitely want to go with 911E because it looks like one I know the owner of. I'm not sure how to tell year on these. His is a '69, and no pics I see on the interwebs show those sidemarkers. I'd guess those little side markers are probably an indication.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    edited April 2016
    So a 911E was '72-'73...looks older than that.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,388
    I was going to guess 1968 912. But I am usually wrong.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    With those side markers it must be '68 or newer. But a Porsche expert can probably tell us the year/month/day/hour...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited April 2016
    stickguy said:

    I was going to guess 1968 912. But I am usually wrong.

    Well this time you're exactly right. Everyone saw those Fuchs 5-spoke alloys and saw 911 since most 912 owners being budget buyers simply made do w the stamped steel wheels w hubcaps. Nevertheless the iconic Fuchs wheels could be bolted right onto any 912.

    The color was known as Irish Green, I knew a guy that had a 911 with that color.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    Is there anything visible that makes it a 912?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    texases said:

    Is there anything visible that makes it a 912?

    Not from the angle of that photo but if you go around to the rear you'll see the giveaway>



    FWIW, the thick chrome surrounds on the headlights were used only in the late 60s and early 70s.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Hey! I was going to say '68 912! No, really......

    There are visual cues but not from that profile shot. The fact that the rear fender wells aren't flared tell you it's got to be a pre '69/ 912. If you could have seen the dashboard, that would differentiate it from a 911.

    912 used the old Porsche 356 engine, so it doesn't perform like the 911s, even though the HP difference between a 912 and an early 911T isn't very much.

    It's expensive to make a 912 go fast, and putting in a 6 cylinder motor is not as easy as a "bolt-in".
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    Isn't the 912 now a 'thing' to collectors? Like similar $$ to a 911? That's something I'll never understand...
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yeah, they have shot up in value but I think the 911s still outpace them by a considerable margin. But it's the restored cars that are climbing in value---"projects" or mediocre 912s are flattening out in value since 2011 or so.

    No reason why a 912 shouldn't bring equivalent money to a nice "bathtub" 356 Porsche. Of course, 356s have many open-top variants, and those are worth a bundle. There are no convertible 912s, only Targas, which many buyers don't care for.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    I might be wrong, but I like the Targa. Different from the everyday cliche 911, and usually cheaper.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    True, true, but a real PITA. Squeaks 'n Leaks and more flex in the chassis.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,934

    True, true, but a real PITA. Squeaks 'n Leaks and more flex in the chassis.

    Exactly.. I always said my next 911 would be a coupe.

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,399
    andys120 said:


    56 Ford Country Squire.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    ...in desperate need of some Bleche-Wite
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670


    56 Ford Country Squire.


    Yup!

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    The 1956 Ford Parklane Wagon is the one to have. Only 2 doors and built for only 1 year.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,598
    andys120 said:



    56 Ford Country Squire.


    Yup!

    With a Thunderbird V-8 (sorry, couldn't resist).

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I know that one, but I'll wait for two other guesses.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,934
    2002 Touring. I'll guess 1971.

    Those look like E21 320i wheels

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