Mystery car pix

andys120

uplanderguy said:

RE.: The OHC 6...I remember those could be told by emblems on the front fenders, and they are different and I like that today. But for volume sales back then--in the age of 25-cent gas, who was looking for a high-performance six-cylinder when the same model car offered several eights?

Yup, there were badges for the OHC/Sprint and yes the vast majority of buyers prefered the V8 options.

lostwrench1

Ok, Pop Quiz..........
Why the synchronous belts?

uplanderguy

That's a nice '67 Tempest Custom.

omarman

uplanderguy said:

Is omarman's pic the Tempest half-an-eight?

Yep and that link at bottom of the trophy 4 pic takes you to a page with more pics and a decent write up about the early 60s Tempest. I liked the simple question "why did the Pontiac GTO not come along until 1964 or 1965?"

uplanderguy

I would love a '62, red, Tempest LeMans coupe with the Buick aluminum V8--but I've never seen one! I have seen a '61 Tempest 4-door with that engine, for sale on eBay once.

I know the '63 had the 326, but I like that '62 styling.

andys120

stickguy

Lotus Elise?

Mr_Shiftright

Looks like an older one----2005?

andys120

stickguy said:

Lotus Elise?

Mr_Shiftright said:

Looks like an older one----2005?

You're both right, it's a 2005 Lotus Elise

I'm a big fan of the Elise, it strikes me as just what a modern sports car should be, not like so many that are mostly laptops with wheels.

andys120

lostwrench1

Ah, memories.
20 years old, flying down the German Autobahn, no speed limits, in an M151A1.
The one shown is an M38.

andys120

lostwrench1 said:

Ah, memories.
20 years old, flying down the German Autobahn, no speed limits, in an M38A1.
The one shown is an M38.

Actually the military livery is fake, it's a 1949 Willys Jeep CJ-3A but I couldn't tell you what the differences are between the M38 and it's civilian counterpart, maybe you can enlighten us.

I suspect the flat out max speed of either would be around 70mph and that's plenty scary IMO.

lostwrench1

I based the answer on the headlight guards.
Headlight guards = M38.

Correct on the 70mph speed max. They just would not go faster.

A short side story...........
We were in a German taxi, a large Mercedes, which drove onto the Autobahn. We kept gaining speed. We looked at the speedometer which indicated 175 kilometers per hour. After returning to the barracks we converted that reading into miles per hour. 108.

andys120

I know a guy who has an M38A1 that's been repainted Forest Service orange, his has no headlight guards, likely they've been removed.

lostwrench1

Unlike the M38's bulging headlights, the M38A1's headlights were recessed and had no guards.

andys120

kyfdx

Me want

Michaell

90's S6 Avant

andys120

Michaell said:

90's S6 Avant

You're a little bit off, it's not an S6.

Michaell

andys120 said:

Michaell said:

90's S6 Avant

You're a little bit off, it's not an S6.

Ok - RS6

Mr_Shiftright

texases

1958 Dodge Regent, from up north?

Mr_Shiftright

Excellent! Basically it's a Plymouth but with a Dodge front clip and, oddly enough, a slighly de-bored 318 to make it a 313 cid engine. This engine was used until 1964 in Canuckistan.

andys120

Michaell said:

andys120 said:

Michaell said:

90's S6 Avant

You're a little bit off, it's not an S6.

Ok - RS6

Close but no cigar...it's the progenitor of the RS line (AFAIK), a 1994 Audi RS2, basically an Audi 90 that's been remade into a high-performance shooting brake
by Audi's cousins at Porsche. Thus it's also a progenitor of the Cayenne/Panamera/Macan.

Not many were made but it's 300hp turbo 2.2 liter five-cylinder engine and Quattro drive made it one of the most amazing cars of it's time. Not to mention that it's hella good-looking
.

andys120

Michaell

andys120 said:

Chrysler 300-series.

No idea on the year or specific letter number. Sharp looking, however.

stickguy

I was guessing a 58 c. But I know nothing.

berri

55 Chrysler

texases

That has to be one of the nicest looking mid-50s cars. And here the wire wheels go well with the rest of the black and chrome.

Michaell

stickguy said:

I was guessing a 58 c. But I know nothing.

The only reason I knew what I posted was that I see Chrysler on the rear flank and 300 on the gas cap

berri

I believe 55 was the first year for the 300 and it set some speed records at Daytona

Mr_Shiftright

Handsome car. And speaking of handsome, this one sure isn't:

stickguy

Has to be French.

texases

A Citroen M35, thought is was an Ami, but no:

"The Citroën M35 was a coupé derived from the Ami 8, and equipped with a Wankel engine and a hydropneumatic suspension. The bodies were produced by Heuliez from 1969 to 1971.

The longitudinally mounted rotary engine had a nominal capacity of 995 cc delivering 49 bhp (37 kW; 50 PS). According to factory figures the car had a performance roughly on a level with that of a Morris 1300.[1] The engine was supplied by a company formed in 1967 by NSU and Citroën called Comotor.

The M35 was an experimental vehicle and was not officially sold - rather it was supplied to loyal Citroën customers to get their comments on the usability of the design. Many aspects of the M35 made it to regular production. The rotary engine was deemed satisfactory and a dual rotor version of it was used in the GS Birotor in 1974; the gearbox used in the M35 was the GS 1015’s gearbox (albeit with a normal shift pattern); certain suspension parts found their way into the GS line when it was introduced in 1970 and the seats that reclined just above the waist were found in none other than the SM."

berri

I like the unique looks on many Citroen's - but this one, someone must have sawed off the back end.

andys120

Michaell said:

stickguy said:

I was guessing a 58 c. But I know nothing.

The only reason I knew what I posted was that I see Chrysler on the rear flank and 300 on the gas cap

Yeah, it's the original letter car, a 1955 Chrysler C-300 , perhaps the original Muscle car. It was dubbed the beautiful brute by writer Tom McCahill. It could do 0-60 in just under 10 seconds (9.8), a time that could be beaten by the average Civic or Sonata these days.

After 1955 the 300s picked up consecutive letter names, the 56 being a 300-B, the '57 a 300-C, the '58 a 300-D....and so on thru 1965 (300-L). There was no 300-A

The wires were Kelsey-Hayes which were expensive options on upscale cars of the day and standard on a very few ('53-'54 Skylark, ElDorados, Dual-Ghias)

andys120

stickguy

Is that a Columbo Peugeot? a 405?

andys120

stickguy said:

Is that a Columbo Peugeot? a 405?

Nope, not Columbo's Pug or anyone else's. There's a similarity in looks because they were styled by the same design house (hint). BTW, unless there was a switch in later episodes, Columbo's car was a Peugeot 403 Cabriolet>



It was the later 404 Cab that was a near twin of the mystery car above. >



The particular caroursserie involved borrowed from itself shamelessly, selling the same styling to multiple companies.

stickguy

well, at least I don't feel bad confusing it with that Pug.

your car is an Innocenti (sure I spelled that wrong though).

andys120

stickguy said:

well, at least I don't feel bad confusing it with that Pug.

your car is an Innocenti (sure I spelled that wrong though).

That's a good guess but it's not an Innocenti. There's a resemblance to the 850 Spider but in this case a different styling house, Ghia did it. You've found the correct country of origin though.

Innocenti 850 Spider.>

fintail

Fiat 2100?

andys120

fintail said:

Fiat 2100?

Typo? It's a Fiat 1200 Cabriolet styled by Pininfarina. The 1200 Cab was made from 58-63 and some were exported to the USA. It was followed in 1966 by the Fiat 124 Spider, the most popular Fiat ever sold here.

andys120

Here's another example of Carrozzeria Pininfarina borrowing from itself, both came out the same year, 1966>

iluvmysephia1

That is a beauty! Red looks good on it.

andys120

iluvmysephia1 said:

That is a beauty! Red looks good on it.

They're both red, to which are you referring and can you ID either or both?

kyfdx

Fiat 124

Don't know my Ferraris well enough to ID the other one

stickguy

It's a V12. that help?

My WAG is a 1967 275 California. Only because I watched a lot of episodes of CCC.

imidazol97

A poster wants help with ID on a car from good security videos of a theft. A real mystery car to ID there.

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/44733/general/x/please-help-with-car-id#latest

andys120

kyfdx said:

Fiat 124

Don't know my Ferraris well enough to ID the other one

Yup, that's the classic Fiat 124 Spider, the smooth hood indicates '66-'71 and the clear turn signal lenses indicate a Euro-market version (US imports had amber lenses). The wheels are optional alloys (Cromodora or Campanoglo-I forget which).

A rear shot of the Ferrari shows the resemblance to the Fiat from another angle>