Mystery car pix

qbrozen

I'll pick off the easy '66 Mustang

I'm at a loss on what appears to be twin green and white wagons. I want to say Ford, but the grille isn't quite right based on the interwebs pics I'm finding.

andys120

stickguy said:

dang. I knew that was not a dolomite, and I knew that I had seen it before. Just did not think of Rover. explains the wheels too!

The Rover P6 was sold in the US first as a Rover 2000TC (OHC 4) and then as a Rover 3500 (Buick/Rover V8). The wheels are Rostyle stamped steel wheels styled to look like alloy wheels. They appeared on many UK imports in the late 60s/early 70s.

andys120

fintail said:

Red car is a Rover P6. I think the small black sedan is a Simca 1000.

Yep the black sedan is indeed a Simca 1000. Easily the rarest vehicle in the picture.

texases

qbrozen said:

I'll pick off the easy '66 Mustang

I'm at a loss on what appears to be twin green and white wagons. I want to say Ford, but the grille isn't quite right based on the interwebs pics I'm finding.

Twins? The Chevy is facing us, the Ford facing away. Both '69 or so.

There's another Mustang, near left, '68 is my guess.

andys120

qbrozen said:

I'll pick off the easy '66 Mustang

I'm at a loss on what appears to be twin green and white wagons. I want to say Ford, but the grille isn't quite right based on the interwebs pics I'm finding.

I think the white wagon is a '68/'69 Ford. The green one is a '69/'70 Chevrolet Kingswood.
As for the Mustangs, the one next to the 510 could be either a '65 or '66. No way to tell which w/o seeing the grille IIRC.

The 'Stang on the other side of the wagon appears notably larger. It looks like a '67 or '68 to me.

texases

Actually, the '66 Mustang has a different all silver gas cap, the '65 has a black center. Looks like a '66, I think.

qbrozen

texases said:

Actually, the '66 Mustang has a different all silver gas cap, the '65 has a black center. Looks like a '66, I think.

bingo. The all metal fuel cap is the tip-off. Of course, an owner could swap it, but I'm going with the assumption it was stock that early in its life.

stickguy

Definetly a big ford wagon the the far end. And a Chevy II wagon next to the green Monte Carlo.

texases

'65:

'66:

qbrozen

Weird. I couldn't find a pic of a chevy wagon with that grille before but now searched again and found it. And I really couldn't figure out if the 2 wagons are different. Look the same to me. The white seems to have a more curvaceous profile, but I convinced myself it was the lighting.

texases

Well, I give up. I've tried to post 3 different photos of gas caps. They show up, then they're just a link. Anyone see them?

andys120

stickguy said:

I like the MGB GT and the Datsun 510. would love either one today.

FWIW the MGB GT is probably a '66 or '67 (assuming that the early production cars from Fall 1965 were sold as '66s). It doesn't have the side markers required from MY '68 on.

Oddly no one has mentioned perhaps the most distinctive vehicle, the white over green VW Type 1 MicroBus top right.

qbrozen

texases said:

Well, I give up. I've tried to post 3 different photos of gas caps. They show up, then they're just a link. Anyone see them?

These?

texases

Yep, '65 on top. Thanks.

andys120

I see 'em too. I thought I knew 1st gen Mustangs but that's a new one to me.

andys120

qbrozen

E39

although the nose looks a bit scrunched in that pic. Maybe a bad angle or weird lens.

andys120

Yup, that's a 2003 BMW 540i (E39) with non-stock wheels.

qbrozen

What is that? Grey powdercoat? Looks terrible.

andys120

kyfdx

AMC Rebel?

stickguy

Rebel "the machine"

andys120

kyfdx said:

AMC Rebel?

stickguy said:

Rebel "the machine"

Youse are both right, it's a 1970 AMC Rebel Machine.

andys120

kyfdx

850?

stickguy

Fiat 850 sport spider to get exact. My sister had one when I was in middle school. Man was that thing tiny. Very low.

Mr_Shiftright

Cute and you can't hurt anybody with it.

stickguy

unless it falls on you during one of the many times you were underneath it trying to fix something.

texases

or if you're driving and hit something more substantial than a traffic cone...

andys120

Yup, that's a Fiat 850 Sport Spider, the more upright headlights indicate a '68 or later version.

Earlier versions ('65-'67) had a faired in style

texases

That driver must be, what, 4' 5"?

kyfdx

texases said:

That driver must be, what, 4' 5"?

850s are rear engine, right? Those are his feet, right behind the headlight..

andys120

That driver must be, what, 4' 5"?

I know a guy who owns one, he's around 5'10". I know another guy around 6'2" or 3" who has a Miata. Yes, they both look funny driving around w their heads way over the windshield header but they both love their cars because they understand that the tiny size is part of their charm.

stickguy

yes, sewing machine in the back.

my sister was short and fit. Her husband (BF at the time) was about 6'3". He hated it. Not only from trying to fit, but he got stuck trying to fix it all the time.

Not so bad being tall in a Miata. You can see over the header. Short works too. Problem is when you are in the middle, and stare straight at it.

texases

A friend had an 850 Spider in high school. He was about my size, 6' 4" or so, and loved driving it. Never saw him in it with the top up, though...

We got pulled over once for having 4 in it, two sitting on the rear deck. High school, remember...

Mr_Shiftright

texases said:

That driver must be, what, 4' 5"?

Victim of a magician's saw box trick gone bad I suspect.

andys120

fintail

I'll pick one, 55 Cadillac.

stickguy

a real early jeep (CJ2?). And a bunch of American cars I can't tell apart.

kyfdx

What is the newest car in that picture? '53 or '54?

(also, I've actually had a few Schlitz, back in the day)

berri

Can't see the front of many, but around a 52 or 53 Ford, also that cheaper fastback coupe version of maybe a 49 or 50 Plymouth or Dodge, and somewhere around a 53 Olds maybe up front?

tmart

kyfdx said:

What is the newest car in that picture? '53 or '54?

(also, I've actually had a few Schlitz, back in the day)

The 54 Ford could be the oldest.

bhill2

Someone pegged the  Cadillac as a '55 and that looks about right (and newest) to me. 

andys120

kyfdx said:

What is the newest car in that picture? '53 or '54?

(also, I've actually had a few Schlitz, back in the day)

The Cadillac and the Olds are both 1954s (first year for the wraparound front glass) otherwise '53s are hard to tell from '54s. I can't tell if the white Ford is a '53 or '54

andys120

stickguy said:

a real early jeep (CJ2?).

Yeah the two-pane windshield suggests a 1940s era Willys Jeep, either a CJ2/2A or a WW II surplus MB.

andys120

It's funny how most of the cars are '53/'54. The oldest is easy, the black fourdoor in front of the white Ford. It's a late 40s Chrysler corp (impossible to tell brand from this pic)

andys120

bhill2 said:

Someone pegged the  Cadillac as a '55 and that looks about right (and newest) to me. 

It's nearly impossible to tell a '54 from a '55

1955

1954

imidazol97

On the Cadillac in the picture the trim piece from the front wheel well to the rear door does the angle and goes up. The '54 has a spear that runs from the front wheel well to the rear door.

The Trim piece between the rear door and the rear window has the smooth curving into the rear fender on the '55. On the '54 that piece terminates in a 90 degree angle at the large chrome piece on the rear window.

The '54 has a large trim piece that runs under the rear window and along the whole side of the car under and over the door windows to the front. The '55 does not have a large trim piece under the door windows and and under the fixed window behind the rear door.

I'll go with '55.

fintail

It's a 55. The reverse "L" trim piece is the giveaway. 56 would gain a horizontal accent above the rear wheelarch.

tmart

andys120 said:

kyfdx said:

What is the newest car in that picture? '53 or '54?

(also, I've actually had a few Schlitz, back in the day)

The Cadillac and the Olds are both 1954s (first year for the wraparound front glass) otherwise '53s are hard to tell from '54s. I can't tell if the white Ford is a '53 or '54

Based on the side trim, the Ford is a 54.