Mystery car pix

Mr_Shiftright

Well yeah, that was the point...to show what the Plymouth version looked like. What do you think? Same as the mystery car that was posted?

andys120

It's exactly the same, so I went looking at Dodges to see if they were different and I found this-



It's exactly the same except for the D-O-D-G-E. Since having the brand name on the back was normal practice I wondered if they were left off the Plymouths and I found some that did
say Plymouth on the back, some did not. So we just can't tell what it is.

The DeSoto was different-

Mr_Shiftright

The rear bumper looks a little bit different on the Dodge, doesn't it?

andys120

Mr_Shiftright said:

The rear bumper looks a little bit different on the Dodge, doesn't it?

Yup, there's no upright bumper guards as on your Plymouth. Could those have been optional? If they were not the Patrol wagon was a Plymouth (also has uprights).

bhill2

Between the two I would say Plymouth, but I am puzzled by the tail lights. On both the Plymouth and the Dodge, the bottom of the tail lights is squared off. It doesn't look like that on the mystery car.

andys120

bhill2 said:

Between the two I would say Plymouth, but I am puzzled by the tail lights. On both the Plymouth and the Dodge, the bottom of the tail lights is squared off. It doesn't look like that on the mystery car.

Slight difference in the t/l shape could be a change from one MY to another but i gotta say those taillights all look the same to me.

bhill2

andys120 said:

bhill2 said:

Between the two I would say Plymouth, but I am puzzled by the tail lights. On both the Plymouth and the Dodge, the bottom of the tail lights is squared off. It doesn't look like that on the mystery car.

Slight difference in the t/l shape could be a change from one MY to another but i gotta say those taillights all look the same to me.

Yeah, you're right, and it can even vary from model to model. They just look a little different to me. But I'm fresh out of credible explanations.

andys120

Mystery dash

bhill2

Oh man. That's got Jag written all over it. I'm not certain of the model, so I'll take a WAG at Mk. VIII.

andys120

It's a Jag but not a Mk.VIII.

fintail

That upright A-pillar has to be E-Type.

andys120

fintail said:

That upright A-pillar has to be E-Type.

Yup, the nicest dash I've ever sat behind!

andys120

qbrozen

Buick Super 8 ... '52?

Mr_Shiftright

E-Type, 1969-70 ish.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright said:

E-Type, 1969-70 ish.

HMN sez it's a 1968 E-Type. Forsome reason there were a small number of '68 E-Types that retained the smaller bumpers and glassed-in headlights of earlier ('61-'67) Series 1 cars. They are known as Series 1-1/2 cars. I'm guessing it has todo with actual production dates.

andys120

qbrozen

What happened with the Buick? was I right? I get the model names mixed up around that time since they seemed to have been called like 6 different things.

qbrozen

andys120 said:

Fiat 128. I don't know enough to pinpoint a year, but in the '70s somewhere. haha.

Kind of interesting to me that it looks a bit like a number of '80s cars from the likes of bimmer and nissan. If it weren't for the chrome bumpers, I could have said it was from the '80s.

magnette

This looks quite late for a Fiat 128 - is it the Zastava run off model - was that the Zastava 128 or did it have a different name for that market? They did a 513 at one stage which used the same body shell I think.

qbrozen

Tag on the fender says Fiat

andys120

qbrozen said:

andys120 said:

Fiat 128. I don't know enough to pinpoint a year, but in the '70s somewhere. haha.

Kind of interesting to me that it looks a bit like a number of '80s cars from the likes of bimmer and nissan. If it weren't for the chrome bumpers, I could have said it was from the '80s.

It's a 1973 Fiat 128 Rally, the nifty wheels are optional Cromodoras.

qbrozen said:

What happened with the Buick? was I right? I get the model names mixed up around that time since they seemed to have been called like 6 different things.

andys120

You had the wrong model, it was a 1952 Buick Roadmaster h/t.

I'm not sure if they'd have put 4 Ventiports on any other model.

qbrozen

I thought 4 ports meant 8 cyl and 3 was 6 cyl. Or was that only a more recent thing?

bhill2

andys120 said:

I'm not sure if they'd have put 4 Ventiports on any other model.

Not in 1952. They did put 4 of them on the Super in the mid-50s.

andys120

stickguy

Late 50s imperial of some sort?

fintail

1963 I think, no pods on the fins. I think this should have stylized "Imperial" script on the front quarter panel.

andys120

Right, Fin, it's a '63 Chrysler Imperial LeBaron.

lostwrench1

andys120 said:

Right, Fin, it's a '63 Chrysler Imperial LeBaron.

An interesting story about that car........The "LeBaron Coachwork" badge at the bottom of the C pillar contained real gold. Because of those badges, Chrysler had to pay an excise tax on them.

andys120

Michaell

60's International Travelall

andys120

Michaell said:

60's International Travelall

Yep, MY 1962.

berri

It would be interesting to see a comparison between that IH and a Suburban that year.

Mr_Shiftright

Travelalls apparently helped win the West (that's John Wayne standing next to one. He was a Travelall enthusiast)

magnette

The John Wayne connection explains why they never sold them here - we drive on the left...

andys120

Michaell

M6 Gran Coupe?

andys120

Michaell said:

M6 Gran Coupe?

Yes the latest victim of BMW's messed up nomenclature, a "coupe" that has 4 doors. :@

andys120

This car ran in the 1963 Monte Carlo Rally.




It looks little different from its 1964 MY showroom counterpart.

iluvmysephia1

'63 Ford Falcon Futura.

Mr_Shiftright

#49 ran in 1964 but not in 196. Drivers were Bo Ljungfeldt & Fergus Sager. They did extremely well but incurred lots of penalties. I think they ran 8 cars that year. Not sure why your pic doesn't show the driving lights on it. Probably the car in a later configuration after it was retired. I think it stayed in Europe.

Here's the car racing in 1964:

andys120

iluvmysephia1 said:

'63 Ford Falcon Futura.

It's a '64 Falcon Futura Sprint. The Sprint versions used the 260 CID version of the "Fairlane" V8 that was also used in early Mustangs and Cobras.

Mr_Shiftright

Holman and Moody got 300 HP out of that motor apparently.

andys120

stickguy

Early falcon on far left. Hiding behind a 50s something ranchero.

Mr_Shiftright

Let's see ---'59 Ford Ranchero, and in front of it---is that a Borgward station wagon?

andys120

Mr_Shiftright said:

Let's see ---'59 Ford Ranchero, and in front of it---is that a Borgward station wagon?

Good eye Shifty, it's an Isabella Combi and the only import I can make in the photo.

fintail

Big 60 Ford 2 door sedan in front lower middle, probably a basic Fairlane, maybe the newest car in the pic.

berri

I think there is another 60 Ford across from the school busses between a 58 Plymouth and a 58 Edsel. Also a 59 Chevy next to the 60 Ford you picked out.