2017 Cadillac Escalade Lease Questions

Michaell

billyboy15 said:

Hello, will you please tell me the residuals for a 2017 MY Platinum Escallade AWD at 36&39 months 12k miles a year? Also what are the money factors please. How much do I deduct residual for 15k miles as well. Thanks!

36/12 - .00059 and 53%

39/12 - .00073 and 51%

Subtract 2% for 15K

chrisn1983

Hello, Can I please get the MF & Residual on a RWD Luxury & RWD Premium Luxury - 36 Month 10K Miles?

Thank you in advance!

billyboy15

Thanks Michaell, what discount can I expect to get on a Platinum right now? Do you work at a Cadillac store? If so how can I get in touch? Thanks much!

kyfdx

chrisn1983 said:

Hello, Can I please get the MF & Residual on a RWD Luxury & RWD Premium Luxury - 36 Month 10K Miles?

Thank you in advance!

Luxury: .00092 MF and 55% residual
Premlux: .00086 MF and 53% residual

kyfdx

billyboy15 said:

Thanks Michaell, what discount can I expect to get on a Platinum right now? Do you work at a Cadillac store? If so how can I get in touch? Thanks much!

You can link to Edmunds price tools by clicking on the Make/Model/Year tabs at the top of the page.

We aren't dealership employees.

paradiddle7

My dealer is telling me that the Escalade 4WD Premium Luxury rate on 39 months 10k is .00133.

What are the current MF and Residual on that vehicle. Is it better to go with the 39 or the 36?

Thanks so much for your time.

Michaell

paradiddle7 said:

My dealer is telling me that the Escalade 4WD Premium Luxury rate on 39 months 10k is .00133.

What are the current MF and Residual on that vehicle. Is it better to go with the 39 or the 36?

Thanks so much for your time.

I show .00083 as the base MF; 52% residual.

36/10 - .00069 and 54% - I think 36 months is the sweet spot, this month.

paradiddle7

My salesperson is still telling me that this information is inaccurate. I've used these forums for every auto deal I've made in the last 15 years and I have always got the rates from this information. What should I tell him?

Michaell

paradiddle7 said:

My salesperson is still telling me that this information is inaccurate. I've used these forums for every auto deal I've made in the last 15 years and I have always got the rates from this information. What should I tell him?

Tell them - politely - that you won't sign a deal where the MF has been marked up.

Then, start shopping other dealers. Only takes one to meet your numbers.

paradiddle7

Thanks. How come when I use different lease calculators I get different payments? What is the most accurate one for GMC Financial on an escalade?

kyfdx

paradiddle7 said:

Thanks. How come when I use different lease calculators I get different payments? What is the most accurate one for GMC Financial on an escalade?

We don't use on-line calculators. Just built a simple excel spreadsheet.

paradiddle7

I built a spreadsheet too, using the method described on Edmumds. Is there any fancy math with the rebates? Are taxes applied to "rebates" or some other math screwing me up?

kyfdx

paradiddle7 said:

I built a spreadsheet too, using the method described on Edmumds. Is there any fancy math with the rebates? Are taxes applied to "rebates" or some other math screwing me up?

Actual rebates are taxable. Dealer discounts are not.

billyboy15

Do we know yet what the residuals and money factors are for the platinum escallade 4WD 12k miles 36-39 month leases are yet for July? Any rebates or incentives? Thanks much. 

kyfdx

billyboy15 said:

Do we know yet what the residuals and money factors are for the platinum escallade 4WD 12k miles 36-39 month leases are yet for July? Any rebates or incentives? Thanks much. 

GM numbers were extended through July 5th.

paradiddle7

My dealer said they are expecting new programs starting on the 5th of July. He told me to wait to see what they were.

billyboy15

Would you mind telling me the 12k 36-39 month rates and residuals on the premium luxury model escallade? Thanks much! In Ga

kyfdx

billyboy15 said:

Would you mind telling me the 12k 36-39 month rates and residuals on the premium luxury model escallade? Thanks much! In Ga

4X4 or 2WD?

billyboy15

4x4 please
as well as platinum model thanks

kyfdx

billyboy15 said:

Would you mind telling me the 12k 36-39 month rates and residuals on the premium luxury model escallade? Thanks much! In Ga

billyboy15 said:

4x4 please
as well as platinum model thanks

PremLux
.00042 MF and 52% residual
.00056 MF and 50% residual
Platinum
.00033 MF and 52% residual
.00047 MF and 50% residual

billyboy15

Thank you

paradiddle7

Please, what are the new MF & Residual on the 10k 36 and 39 month leases for both Premium Luxury and Platinum

It looks like they stepped it up to sell some more platinums. Too bad they don't make them in the shale interior color my wife wants.

Michaell

paradiddle7 said:

Please, what are the new MF & Residual on the 10k 36 and 39 month leases for both Premium Luxury and Platinum

It looks like they stepped it up to sell some more platinums. Too bad they don't make them in the shale interior color my wife wants.

RWD or AWD?

paradiddle7

AWD Thanks.

Michaell

paradiddle7 said:

Please, what are the new MF & Residual on the 10k 36 and 39 month leases for both Premium Luxury and Platinum

It looks like they stepped it up to sell some more platinums. Too bad they don't make them in the shale interior color my wife wants.

paradiddle7 said:

AWD Thanks.

36/10
Prem Lux - .00042 and 53%
Platinum - .00029 and 53%

39/10
Prem Lux - .00056 and 51%
Platinum - .00047 and 51%

paradiddle7

Thanks, but can you also give me the numbers for the Luxury version? They are trying to make me buy a vehicle in stock and add the entertainment system afterwards and they told me that the numbers were worse for the Premium Luxury and I want to see if they are being truthful. So 10k Luxury AWD, 36m and 39m please. I really appreciate the info.

Michaell

paradiddle7 said:

Thanks, but can you also give me the numbers for the Luxury version? They are trying to make me buy a vehicle in stock and add the entertainment system afterwards and they told me that the numbers were worse for the Premium Luxury and I want to see if they are being truthful. So 10k Luxury AWD, 36m and 39m please. I really appreciate the info.

36/10 - .00061 and 55%
39/10 - .00075 and 53%

paradiddle7

Thanks... in case anyone wants to know, the Dealer Cash has increased from 1500 to 2000 and the Conquest Lease rebate is still $3000 if you are getting out of a lease from another MFG from most other luxury brands.

ryguy84

What's the money factor and residual for 12/36 on a luxury?

Michaell

ryguy84 said:

What's the money factor and residual for 12/36 on a luxury?

RWD or AWD?

ryguy84

Michaell said:

What's the money factor and residual for 12/36 on a luxury?

RWD or AWD?

4wd please

kyfdx

ryguy84 said:

Michaell said:

ryguy84 said:

What's the money factor and residual for 12/36 on a luxury?

RWD or AWD?

4wd please

.00061 MF and 54% residual

mil6753

Can I get the current Premium Luxury AWD money factor and residual for 36mo/12K?

I see there is $2,000 dealer cash, $3,000 conquest. I also received a mailer from GM for a $5,000 rebate/incentive. Question is - can this $5,000 mailer be combined with the dealer cash of $2000 or is it one or the other? Would be difference of having $8,000 in rebates vs. $10,000. I'm eligible for GM supplier pricing, but it basically gets me $500 or so below invoice price. What should I be targeting off MSRP?

kyfdx

mil6753 said:

Can I get the current Premium Luxury AWD money factor and residual for 36mo/12K?

I see there is $2,000 dealer cash, $3,000 conquest. I also received a mailer from GM for a $5,000 rebate/incentive. Question is - can this $5,000 mailer be combined with the dealer cash of $2000 or is it one or the other? Would be difference of having $8,000 in rebates vs. $10,000. I'm eligible for GM supplier pricing, but it basically gets me $500 or so below invoice price. What should I be targeting off MSRP?

2WD or 4WD?

There is probably a good chance that some or all of those rebates are not applicable to the lease program.
The good thing about doing a GM Supplier deal, is they have to apply all rebates and incentives, and disclose them to the customer.

mil6753

Looking for 4WD. I called it AWD instead of 4WD ("Premium Luxury AWD..")

kyfdx

mil6753 said:

Looking for 4WD. I called it AWD instead of 4WD ("Premium Luxury AWD..")

Yeah.. I have a reading problem, today, evidently...

.00042 MF and 52% residual

paradiddle7

Can you please confirm that Premium Luxury AWD 36/10 is indeed MF of .00042? They are of course telling me that .00061 is the best. Why are dealers allowed to lie so much in negotiations? They are also telling me that the 2000 dealer cash is not available on a lease but last month they offered it to me verbally. 

Michaell

paradiddle7 said:

Can you please confirm that Premium Luxury AWD 36/10 is indeed MF of .00042? They are of course telling me that .00061 is the best. Why are dealers allowed to lie so much in negotiations? They are also telling me that the 2000 dealer cash is not available on a lease but last month they offered it to me verbally. 

I confirm .00042.

We show no lease incentives on the Escalade.

paradiddle7

So they showed me a piece of paper that shows the normal Escalade at .00069 and the ESV Escalade at .00042. Effective dates are 7/1 to 8/31

Michaell

paradiddle7 said:

So they showed me a piece of paper that shows the normal Escalade at .00069 and the ESV Escalade at .00042. Effective dates are 7/1 to 8/31

Does it look anything like this?



(third set of numbers is the 36 month info - MF APR, residual, lease cash; divide the MF APR decimal value by 2400 to get the MF rate)

mil6753

I can confirm, the $5000 private mailer and the $2000 dealer cash are for purchasing only and cannot be applied towards leasing. In fact, the private mailer was deemed "stand alone" so that it may not be combined with any other offer. Only incentive for a lease I'm coming up with currently is $3000 conquest.

paradiddle7

Thanks. So before you quoted the residual for 36/10k at 53% but the sheet you posted are we looking at the bottom row last 3 columns? It says 50% residual at .00042. Does the 36/10k have 53%?

Michaell said:

paradiddle7 said:

So they showed me a piece of paper that shows the normal Escalade at .00069 and the ESV Escalade at .00042. Effective dates are 7/1 to 8/31

Does it look anything like this?



(third set of numbers is the 36 month info - MF APR, residual, lease cash; divide the MF APR decimal value by 2400 to get the MF rate)

Michaell

paradiddle7 said:

Thanks. So before you quoted the residual for 36/10k at 53% but the sheet you posted are we looking at the bottom row last 3 columns? It says 50% residual at .00042. Does the 36/10k have 53%?

Michaell said:

paradiddle7 said:

So they showed me a piece of paper that shows the normal Escalade at .00069 and the ESV Escalade at .00042. Effective dates are 7/1 to 8/31

Does it look anything like this?



(third set of numbers is the 36 month info - MF APR, residual, lease cash; divide the MF APR decimal value by 2400 to get the MF rate)

Yes, these are the 15K residuals; add 3% for 10K

paradiddle7

Do you think GM Financial would be interested in knowing that the dealers are engaging in these tactics?

I'm sure that the 3rd party goes to trade shows with a wink and says "We publish dealer incentives and rates in an easier to read format so you can show your customers what the current rates and incentives are. We do our best to maintain accurate information but we cannot guarantee the accuracy of our data as it is compiled from other confidential sources."

Michaell

paradiddle7 said:

Do you think GM Financial would be interested in knowing that the dealers are engaging in these tactics?

I'm sure that the 3rd party goes to trade shows with a wink and says "We publish dealer incentives and rates in an easier to read format so you can show your customers what the current rates and incentives are. We do our best to maintain accurate information but we cannot guarantee the accuracy of our data as it is compiled from other confidential sources."

I don't think they care, frankly. The dealer profits from any markup in the MF, and they've likely got an agreement with AIS to provide the data.

No guarantee that the AIS data isn't deliberately marked up, either.

You've got what you wanted from the dealer, which is the base MF for the lease.

Michaell

@paradiddle7 - I've deleted the posts (your original post and my reply to it) with your scanned email, as it contained contact information (phone, email). Something we don't allow on our boards.

paradiddle7

No problem. Good idea. There's still valuable information here and it's that the information you give on these boards is accurate and has held up for me on 5 vehicles so far.

I was tempted to say to the dealer when they apologized for the inaccurate data, "Don't worry, I'm sure when you got your commission check from GM for marking up the MF that you would have called me and signed over the check to me with an apology then."

Michaell said:

@paradiddle7 - I've deleted the posts (your original post and my reply to it) with your scanned email, as it contained contact information (phone, email). Something we don't allow on our boards.

natedac

Can someone give me more details on the Conquest rebate? Does this apply to all Escalade trims? Is it available in CA? I can't find it on the Cadillac website.

kyfdx

natedac said:

Can someone give me more details on the Conquest rebate? Does this apply to all Escalade trims? Is it available in CA? I can't find it on the Cadillac website.

Sorry, we don't have info on the conquest rebate

roc86negron

Hey Michael (yet again!) that BMW autonation dealer isn't playing ball so we are moving on to Escalades...what are the numbers for premium luxury 36/12 for both 2wd and 4wd for South Fl?