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Yes, you are right to expect better service from the dealer and to take care of such items as pending corrosion on the battery and terminals.
However, based on that life experience, it is adviseable to double-check upon your mechanics work. I do check my oil level now everytime I get an oil change to make sure they didn't put in 3 quarts instead of 5. I don't trust any mechanics now really.
Assuming they were brand new to begin with.
However, with over 50,000 miles and no ANTI TOYOTA posters or Sikes himself producing any receipts of having had a brake job done in 2010, I'll side with my assumption as being way more reasonable than yours.
For someone you claim wants media attention, he has sure played hard to get. Maybe looking for a big pay day from MSNBC or GMA. According to the CHP he did not even want to talk to the media at all. Seems strange for someone trying to pull a hoax for media attention.
I stand by my prediction. Toyota will pay to keep him quiet. They got no evidence of fraud or it would be plastered on every network evening news. They are taking it out on the lady in NYC that obviously did not know how to drive her bosses Prius.
As I said still don't know if incident really happened, as no final decision reached. Positives and negatives exist. I will evaluate when NHTSA final decision reached.
The big picture is more important than this incident or NY accident. Both may end up be positives for Toyota. NY is. Sikes still pending.
With only 50k miles the brakes should be like new. At least according to many Prius owners. Here is the first example that came up with a quick search.
I have NEVER had to take it to the dealer for any repairs or defects. Still on 2nd set of tires. Have replaced wiper blades once, and air filter a few times. Oil changes every 5K miles rounds it out. I thought I would have to replace the front brake disc pads after 100K miles, as my wife hits the brakes pretty heavily, but they were hardly worn.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f120221/199#MSG199
more brake life
Couldn't of Sike's medical stats and conditions have been caused by perpetrating this hoax at 90 MPH on the SD County freeways. Couldn't he of become nervous when lying to a police officer and 911 dispatcher and been thinking of the consequences of being caught or found out, which would certainly induce stress in me.
I know everytime I'm pulled over by the Police or the CHP my blood pressure rises and I get a bit nervous. I'm sure my pulse/heart beat rise as well when I see those lights go on behind me.
Everytime I'm in court to fight a bogus ticket, even when I have a super strong case and am totally in the right, I get very nervous in the intimidating court room atmosphere at the time of trial. The presence of the officer and "judge" who you know are against you is intimidating. Sikes knows he's not a friend of the CHP in this situation. However, the CHP might have been overly friendly towards him, in light of recent events, and that clouded their judgement. I'd imagine pulling off this hoax and lying to the police made Sikes very nervous too.
That would wear out the pads faster than most Prius drivers.
I'm sure you could get almost any brake pad to last 100K miles if you drive for that goal. However, if you are like normal people, 50,000 is a lot of mileage for a brake pad.
So the most popular cars that are on the road are those "affected" by this situation.
Guess what? These cars would be piling in to each other by the dozens every day (based on shear numbers) if ALL of these cases of "Sudden Unintended Acceleration" were true. Toyota is the number one selling make in California.
IS there a problem? Probably. But it's a very, very, small number that it is actually happeneing to.
Please note-As a matter of full disclosure, my wife drives a '05 4Runner that doesn't have this issue. That does not affect my statements. My statements are based on nothing more than observations.
If anybody wonders if the hybrid power-regeneration process actually works, here’s some proof.
When you hit the brakes, my Prius turns the electric motor into a generator, and returns the generated power to the battery. As you increase the pedal pressure, it simply increases the field voltage in the now-generator, thus generating more electricity and concomitantly creating more drag. Only if you absolutely jam the brakes on, or reach a relatively low speed (say, about 10 MPH), will it actually engage the hydraulic brakes to stop the car.
Therefore, it should be that your normal braking system is relatively lightly used, especially if you are a relatively careful driver, and the wear on your brake pads should be low.
Having now almost 110,000 miles on my original pads, I went in a week ago to have a brake shop check them out, since I last looked at them about 40,000 miles ago, I figured that they must be almost shot by now. Well, to my surprise, and very much so to that of the brake shop, they found I had by wear-depth almost 50% of my pad life left. So, somewhere around 220,000 miles, I should start thinking about replacing my brakes — for the first time.
So Sikes was not even starting to wear his brakes out before His car experienced UA. And unless the regenerative braking was not working the brakes would not be engaging the rotors while there was power to the wheels. The faithful need to see the light on Toyota. They are being played like a cheap fiddle.
suv's have a sticker on the driver's side sun visor with a warning it does not handle like a car.
if the lexus did not have any warning that an extra floor mat could kill you and all your passengers, how can you blame the non owner driver?
You can find it all in the Owner's manual. Frankly, I think they should require drivers to read (or at least skim through) the owner's manual before driving a vehicle.
Shouldn't people know inherently SUV's don't handle like a car? Afterall, they aren't a car. Shouldn't you know Air bags could be dangerous? Shouldn't you know that having loose objects like floor mats in the driver's footwell compartment could be dangerous?
I think America is way too DUMBED down and it's because of corrupt lawyers and juries that lawsuits have gone way too far.
I love the one where a woman sues McDonald's for spilling coffee on herself. I don't want to have to pay for everyone's incompetence and stupidity.
Isn't it obvious the motive is to blame an accident and damages on someone other than yourself? A natural human tendency to not accept responsibility and blame.
hit a pot hole or a big bump, it doesn't care, stays right were you were going, no drama.
do i want to take it to a race track?, not really.
it has stickers on the visor regarding how the handling is different from a car.
i have had the opportunity to drive 'sports cars' costing over 100k as fast as i felt comfortable, due to the benevolence of a friend.
for normal driving, i wouldn't pick the sports car.
i have never rented a car that had the owner's manual in it.
they cost a lot of money and can disappear pretty easily.
i think good, although some others are on the other side of the fence.
It takes a real stretch to be one of the Toyota Faithful. The evidence against them is overwhelming. State Farm claims they have too many accidents and AAA does not recommend any Toyota as a commuter vehicle. Some folks just have blinders on.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-auto-guide24-2010mar24,0,3776930.story
As fro the Prius brakes, it has a regenerative system and regular hydraulic system. If a person is not hard on the brake peddle, the regular braking system is not used as often. So the brake pads on a Prius or any hybrid would last longer than a regular car.
Unlike you and some others, I do all the maintenance on my cars(brakes,oil,transmission fluids,tire rotation,belts,ect), except for major engine or transmission work. I do know disc brake pads DO NOT last 200K miles on a regular car.
Maybe the LA times do not recommend Toyota vehicles because they do not want to get all the hate mails from Toyota haters like you. :shades:
I'm sorry - your arguments saying he would have same symtoms even if he was playing hoax -.no. The physiological responses would be less than what occurred, and other symptoms that were documented in report supported my opinion. Have seen lots of patients that were playing the hoax. CHP is trained for attempting to recognize a hoax too, but lacks medical terminology that medical professionals would use. Still was quite thorough. Dispatch of ambulance quite appropriate per law. The Paramedic/EMT report would have helped clarify further. Medically Sikes was high risk for a possible heart attack, or stroke w presented symptoms.
I try to give opinions. As you will note I gave Toyota positives and negatives. I don't like Exponent because I already knew of them before this started from medicine. Was quite disappointed Toyota hired them. My peers, MD's, and I discussed Exponent at length in one of our meetings, and I had also done research on them in past. Still have the bookmarked info. Not good.
I already said I don't know if Sikes incident is real or not. None of us do at present. We just have no final decision. But when it comes to these medical issues and probable medical opinion can only give objective opinion as a licensed professional.
They have stood behind red light camera's as an enforcment technique for revenue generation reasons (excuse for AAA insurance to raise your rates when you get an unconstitutional ticket from a camera), even though objective studies have shown that Red Light Camera's INCREASE the accident rates at intersections where they are installed. It has also been shown that simply lengthening the yellow light by 1 second is far more effective to reduce violations then the camara's themselves.
Yet despite all this evidence, the AAA Automobile club betrayed it's own member drivers and supported the use of red light cameras.
This can only be explained as caving into the greedy atrocities that all insurance companies are guilty of.
That is what separates toyota from the other automakers.
Do you understand ? Its about honour vs gangsterism.
The fact you think a hoax wouldn't cause the same physiological responses is definitely opinion, and a seemingly unreasonable one.
Also, don't you think there are drugs out there that could induce the same physiological responses that Sikes may have taken to enhance the hoax?
Do you understand ? Its about honour vs gangsterism.
What is honorable about accepting and taking tax payer money in the form of bailouts? I find that highly dishonorable and dispicable. I think the [non-permissible content removed]'s were more honorable and morally straight than the workers at GM and Chrysler.
If they were honorable, they'd of done the Japanese thing, and put a sword or a knife through their own guts rather than accept bailouts in order to continue their failed business models.
Don't you think you should dump your Toyotas?
I'm at 72K miles on my '04 Camry, and the front pads are still pretty thick.
So it doesn't surprise me that Prius owners can go far more, at least with conservative driving.
Our Toyota and Lexus are both the older tried and tested technology. Not the bug riddled DBW technology Toyota currently uses. Our 21 year old LS400 still runs good and I put a new set of Michelin Primacy tires on last year. Until I find a diesel SUV I like better than the Sequoia it stays in the garage also. I would not buy a new technology Toyota for many reasons. I think it has been said before. Denso electronics are inferior and that seems to be what Toyota likes to use. I know my made in India by slave labor NAV is poor quality. Rated at the very bottom of the OEM NAV units. The only real complaint I have with the Lexus is our dealer. The same dealer that installed the wrong floor mat and killed the CHP and his family last year.
Do you understand ? Its about honour vs gangsterism.
You must have lived in another country for the last several decades.. :sick:. . Because that has been standard practice for GM Ford and Chrysler for a very long time.. :P
For a person with your anti Toyota passion it must be difficult going to your garage every day and seeing all those Toyotas emblems.
What makes it "older tried and tested technology?"
The 2005 Sequoia used a DBW throttle. Is yours older than that?
2005 had DBW
This statement in your link says what I do like about our Sequoia.
All things considered, I wouldn’t change a thing in favour of improved handling performance if it were to compromise the Sequoia’s splendid ride quality. Perhaps it’s an age thing, but I want my rack of bones jarred less and less these days, and judging by the Sequoia’s intended market, I may not be alone.
If it had a decent CD/NAV and a diesel engine getting 30 MPG on the highway I would consider it as close to perfection as a vehicle gets.
How can the throttle not be the culprit in SUA/UA ?
"I find it incredible that poor, stupid, incompetent drivers tend to buy Toyota vehicles."
Do you include yourself in that group since you drive Toyotas?
Or the brakes, really?
Is not UA just a "runaway throttle?"
So why can't any Toyota with an electronic throttle have the issue, if any of them do?
Yes, drugs could cause the symptoms Sikes experienced. This theory would be eliminated, because vital signs that were very high eventually returned to acceptable level in the ambulance. Not applicable Mr Sikes per CHP report. Therapuetic blood pressure dosage ineffective controlling blood pressure for the high stress experienced. Physicians monitor and establish an appropriate level for each patient. These dosages can control most daily stress experienced by patients. The high factor is always addressed in attempts to prevent significant high blood pressure detrimental effects upon other major systems and/or causing new medical condition.
Sikes Cardiac bypass 5 way surgery indicates he had critical level cardiac damage prior to surgery. Disease progression is not elimnated miraculously following surgery. Lifestyle changes, medication, monitoring help, but do not entirely eliminate. His age 61, and his positive known medical conditions placed him - higher risk category.
Are you also contradicting my son who is licensed California medical physician???
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=e95ad39604fdaa2ded701ee- 490df42e7&rgn=div9&view=text&node=49:6.1.2.3.5.5.1.5.4&idno=49
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title49/49c- fr512_main_02.tpl
Isn't anyone interested how/why we may not be getting the truth about what is happening at present?
Attorneys released Toyota documents to CNN.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/03/22/toyota.throttle.warning/index.html?hpt=C1
Actually legal strategy/pressure is working regarding the media news now.
That is a good question. The flood of UA complaints did not come until the current generation DBW systems were being used. I don't think Toyota does as much testing as in the past. They cut corners with suppliers like Denso and you get what you pay for. Add to that all the required stability, traction, and braking controls mandated and it is a recipe for problems. The more you expect from on board computers the more chances of software glitches.
There is also the surge when you are sitting at a stop light that I have experienced with my Sequoia. It could be dangerous if you do not press down on the brakes while at a stop light. I have learned to cope and accept it. Still just part of Toyota's sloppy code in their control modules. A little surge here and a little surge there, before long you got a serious surge problem. :sick:
As is usual the Faithful will defend Toyota to the end. Or deflect to some other brand and the problems they may have.
* 2005-2010 Avalon
* 2007-2010 Camry
* 2009-2010 Corolla
* 2008-2010 Highlander
* 2009-2010 Matrix
* 2004-2009 Prius
* 2010 Prius
* 2009-2010 RAV4
* 2008-2010 Sequoia
* 2005-2010 Tacoma
* 2007-2010 Tundra
* 2009-2010 VENZA
That situation is not related to full-speed uncontrolled acceleration.
Wait, either yours has it or doesn't have it. Which is it?
And remember: I had a surge once in my Honda Civic Hybrid too, which since it was a manual tranny I just shifted to neutral to "neutralize" the issue.
'Yota is not the only carmaker with UA/SUA issues.
No one looks at any recall list and decides, "That vehicle has had a recall, I can't buy it !!!"
If that were the case, if only cars which have never had a single recall were purchased, there would be about 0 cars for sale in the USA.
We called 2 dealers and they had an SE that she wanted,but her trade in a 2009 wasn't worth much on a $2700.00 SE.She was surprised and upset.
How much does a car like hers depreciate in 6 months? I thought the 2011 Toytas came out in September so she could trade up.
Well, she's waiting for a while.Then she's off to buy an Audi.
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