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Sales of the no-longer-drift-worthy GX have resumed per Automotive News.
Leaf to make money
I know the parent's '95 Camry required new motor mounts and exhaust seals around the 100K mile mark. Oh yeah, the door locks went bad and it had to be rekeyed by a key guy, with new key cylinders on the doors. Yes, Toyota's do sometimes need minor repairs, but never anything major from what I've seen and experienced.
Sounds like $799 of pure profit to me. Where do I sign up.
Doesn't sound good for Ford.
PS
The FM radio picks up my wife's favorite classical station much better than our Sequoia. If I get decent mileage we will use it for most of our running around instead of the Toyota.
Not sure what year the Frontier is,the mileage,trim level ,sale price etc etc.. Not getting the whole picture here. Edmunds TMV for used cars is anyway way too overpriced. And ya,,the Tacomas are more problematic than Frontiers--may be in a parallel universe !!! Do you know the Tacoma`s resale??--the highest in its class. :surprise:
Yes, way over priced. I bought a 2008 Frontier 4door extended cab 2WD SE. 31k miles Certified by Mossy Nissan. Asking price $18,988. I gave them $16,000 plus my Ford Ranger. That included a class 3 hitch installed and 84 months of B to B $0 deductible Nissan warranty. Brand new set of tires and a bed liner. I kept the lumber rack that was on my Ranger. That was a cash price. The two hours I was in there not another customer came through the door. Edmund's shows a certified price of $18,516 and a Private sale of $16,178 in Clean condition. Sales manager said it was a slow month. We should know by Monday how they all made out.
Who knows?
What more bad evidnece needs to be explained on the TV, radio and internet about their crappy UA problem, their covering up problems, their crappy looks, etc.? It should be a no-brainer to avoid them like Dennis Rodman after he eats a cheesy-beef burrito.
Yikes, spikes and crazy little trogiladites.
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Also, I noticed a faux pas with the commericial itself. It speaks of Avalon's "jet-like" smoothness, but the aircraft shown in the commercial has propellers.
Good catches on the Jet and the American Motors' "A" in the commercial.
What I notice is how the Japanese auto brands try to Americanize themselves using things associated with patriotic US symbols and past.
I enjoy the ad about how they're spending $1,000,000 per hour on safety? Better late than never!!!! :P
Of course, that's mostly being spent in Japan.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Was yours the Flex Fuel version? I did keep the vehicle four years. I bought it from a private party and paid $4500. It was still very clean looking. Just that weak V6 and marginal Auto transmission. At the time I could not find a Frontier or Tacoma that was reasonably priced. I was still holding out hopes that some automaker would offer a small diesel engine. This Frontier will likely be my last PU truck.
On average, about 4000 people a day, EVERY DAY, all year long, in the United States alone. ;-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I'm surprised you didn't cash-for-clunker it last year.
April sales figures should be interesting. I don't see any of the rah rah faithful cheering about now.
Care to make any predictions?
I will - I predict Toyota will at least pace the market.
Keep in mind we're not sure how long the incentives will last. I say sales will drop when that happens.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said in a document posted on its Web site that five consumers reported that the accelerator pedal became stuck and would not return to the idle position when released
Read more: http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100503/OEM/100509989/1251#i- xzz0msZUD9Xx
So five so far, out of 10,000....
Chrysler said its own review has found that consumer complaints are limited to about 10,000 Calibers that were built during a five-week window in March and April 2006
They are trying the limit the # affected (not unlike Toyota).
"It appears to be a supplier manufacturing concern, which is mechanical in nature and not a design or electronic issue," Chrysler said in a statement.
Sound familiar? Did they hire the Toyota spokesperson or what?
The automaker also said the vehicle is equipped with a brake override system, which allows the engine controller to reduce power and stop the car when both the brake and the accelerator are depressed.
No word yet if Sikes drove one of these for 45 minutes at 95 miles per hour and reached the pedals with his long, orangutan-like arms.
Let's see how people here react, when the shoe's on the other foot. How did Gary put it?
the rah rah [domestic] faithful cheering about now
I just inserted the [domestic] part.
Point is, Chrysler's behavior mirrors Toyota's to a T. Seems like this is basically standard industry practice.
These vehicles and the quality cannot change in a few weeks, the re-tooling can take months.
http://www.10news.com/automotive/23432174/detail.html
* no recall yet
* 161,000 produced that year
How can they narrow it down to 10,000 if they haven't even announced a recall yet? Isn't that jumping the gun?
The spokesman did not want to be identified because of company policies prohibiting disclosure.
That's strange, Toyota always named names, at least.
He would not say if other Chrysler vehicles have the same CTS pedal.
Also strange. I bet the Jeep Compas and Patriot share tons of parts and are very likely also affected.
I thought about it. There was not enough MPG difference between the 99 and new PU trucks to get the $4500. It was only on new and I did not want to pay the price for a new truck. The same 2010 Frontier is going for about $24k equipped as my truck is. At best I could probably cut about $2000 off that price. That is if they could get me an extended cab model. They did not have any in stock at the store I was at. Plenty of Crew Cabs.
Nissan was the import brand with the biggest incentives, so that probably helped push used truck prices down, which helped you score that deal.
Congrats.
April 2010 - Overall Luxury Brand Sales
1. Lexus - 18,359
2. Mercedes-Benz - 17,628
3. BMW - 17,268
4. Cadillac - 11,317
5. Acura - 10,719
6. Infiniti - 9,942
7. Audi - 9,319
8. Lincoln - 7,279
9. Volvo - 4,546
10. Land Rover -
11. Porsche - 1,747
12. Jaguar -
13. Saab - N/A
Ford F-Series: 40,946
Honda Accord: 31,766 (including 2,455 Crosstours)
Chevrolet Silverado: 29,618
Toyota Corolla: 27,932
Toyota Camry: 27,914
Honda Civic: 25,042
Ford Escape: 19,146
Ford Fusion: 18,971
Hyundai Sonata: 18,536
Honda CR-V: 16,661
link title
Lexus/Scion/Toyota up 24.4%, and Lexus gained more than Toyota (Scion has the smallest gains):
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota-reports-april-sales-157902.aspx
So my prediction about them outpacing the market was accurate. :shades:
4Runner reported sales of 4,200 units, up 204.3 percent!
The new "Swagger Wagon" [Sienna] is up 40.6%.
Interestingly, neither of those has the 0% offer.
1 General Motors 659,475 18.7% 581,852 19.2% 13%
2 Ford Motor Co. 608,991 17.3% 457,172 15.1% 33%
3 Toyota 543,125 15.4% 486,210 16.1% 12%
4 Honda (American) 370,109 10.5% 332,014 11.0% 12%
5 Chrysler Group LLC 329,918 9.4% 323,890 10.7% 2%
6 Nissan 291,998 8.3% 221,957 7.3% 32%
7 Hyundai Group 262,264 7.4% 224,305 7.4% 17%
8 VW 112,489 3.2% 81,606 2.7% 38%
9 Subaru 80,692 2.3% 57,181 1.9% 41%
10 BMW Group 76,266 2.2% 70,714 2.3% 8%
11 Mazda 74,876 2.1% 69,934 2.3% 7%
12 Daimler AG 70,915 2.0% 61,137 2.0% 16%
13 Mitsubishi 17,555 0.5% 17,753 0.6% -1%
14 Jaguar Land Rover 12,736 0.4% 11,920 0.4% 7%
15 Suzuki 7,611 0.2% 17,668 0.6% -57%
16 Porsche 6,969 0.2% 6,778 0.2% 3%
17 Other (estimate) 1,176 0.0% 1,224 0.0% -4%
18 Maserati 580 0.0% 353 0.0% 64%
19 Saab Spyker 348 0.0% 0 0.0%
20 Isuzu 0 0.0% 165 0.0% -100%
TOTAL 3,528,093 3,023,833 17%
It appears to me Most of the bad evidence about Toyota's come from questionable sources such as politicians, the news media, internet ranters, elderly drivers, etc.
I remember your past post mentioning you were considering a Toyota Yaris as I plan to also. Did you have a really bad experience with Toyota at that time? If not I am curious to know why you think Toyota is doomed?
So if Toyota takes a header off a cliff, that will be good for the two automakers close to his heart... ;-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
GM and Chrysler tried to sell a few jets to Toyota last year. Toyota wisely opted not to buy them.
Need I mention why I feel this way? Come on, you know what I'm talking about. They either build them with spring-loaded accelerator pedals or inept ECU's or a combination of both. Really, if a car is going to spring-load you in to oblivion just for buying it and driving it, how could or really why would anyone either buy one or stick up for them? Are we that short of memory here in the U.S.?
I don't hate Toyota, I just lost all respect for them in 2009. Running and hiding from problems, lying about the problems their cars continue to have, fixing them with fixes that don't fix the problem.
I don't see Mitsubishi doing this nor do I suspect that this sort of thing will just suddenly start happening to Mitsu in August of 2010, or September of 2010, etc.
Nope. Notta. Not going to happen, car fiends.
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iluv: no need for Mitsu to be charged with this sort of thing in 2010 or 2011, they have already had their turn with charges of covering up or ignoring safety defects in the 90s, back in their home market. That sort of thing never makes big news in the U.S. when it happens to Mitsu, because Mitsu is such a tiny presence here.
Now Suzuki, as far as I know, has a clean record when it comes to hidden safety recalls and knowingly jeopardizing customers' lives.....but there's no chance they will make it another decade in the U.S. They are on AN's Biggest Loser list for sales this year, and really how are 300+ dealers going to make it on 20,000-30,000 sales per year? It's too bad they never could get their act together in the States, they are one of my two favorite Japanese car companies (the other being Subaru).
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
They've gained market share the last 2 months.
Why allow any company to put their logo on the car for which I just paid. I make clear at purchase time a license plate frame is okay, because that can be removed by me easily. IF they think I have to be their free advertising billboard, I'll find another dealer from whom to buy a car.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Remember, Mitsu had their own hidden recall scandal not too long ago.
Then there was the cars registered before they were sold, with cartoon character aliases?
They've had their own speed bumps. Those plus the 0/0/0 nonsense has their sales down 80% from 1999 to 2009. They're down another 1% in 2010 despite a market that is way up.
Actually, they gained share in April.
The market increased by 20%, remember Toyota/Lexus/Scion was up 24.4%. They outpaced the market and gained share.
Before anyone says it, Lexus had bigger gains that Toyota did.
In March they also gained share. The market was up 24% and Toyota was up 41%.
Incentives helped a bunch, but one of the big reasons they lost share is that GM and Ford were poaching customers with their own $1000 in extra incentives to former Toyota owners earlier in the year.
We can conclude one thing for sure: money talks.
I remember the days when HoToy followers bragged how they didn't have to have (public knowledge) incentives because they were so good. My how times have changed.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
That's with record incentives. But even so, the incentives is losing the effectiveness. In Mar, Toyota sales increased 41% over one year ago; in Apr, only 24%.
Using YTD volume, they have been losing market share every month.
that just makes me do this:
Mitsubishi is here to stay, my fellow car nuts.
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We know the top 4 are GM, Ford, Chrysler, and Nissan.
How could record incentives not even make the top 4?
Using YTD volume, they have been losing market share every month.
That's called "spin". Glass half empty.
They lost share in January and February, but gained share in March and April.
Competitors were poaching their buyers with incentives targeted DIRECTLY at existing Toyota owners. They responded and it has worked.
They lost share when competitors had aggressive/targeted incentives. They're gaining it back with their own smaller incentives.
That's the truth, no spin.
Suzuki is in bigger trouble than Mitsu.
Saab is basically dead, though they may be brought back to life.
Isuzu is long gone.
EVO is wonderful but it won't help their sales volume. The Galant is old and not getting updated. The only new products in the pipeline are a low-volume electric car and the Outlander Sport wagon. I wonder if those will even offset the drops in Galant and Eclipse sales.
Mitsu needs fresh products yesterday. Edit: 2 years ago. Galant is 7 model years old.
The CEO emhpatically states that they're not going to leave the U.S. market. I am sure they are here to stay.
No need to get defensive about my favorite carmaker. I love my '08 Lancer GTS and even though I thought I wanted a Suzuki Kizashi a couple of weeks ago, I love my car and envy no other car on the planet. I am telling you all the truth on that.
No one else's car do I envy. But don't worry-have some faith in them. I do. And remember they are a car enthusiast's best friend. They do this with a loving passion in their hearts and I have found it to be contagious.
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