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Some myopia at work perhaps? Seeing rust only where it's convenient?
Obviously you overlooked BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, The Maritimes, and Newfoundland/Labrador---those older Toyos, Hondas, Mazdas, etc., are all over the place, and this with far worse weather than that you speak of!!
Spend some time in Vancouver, The Okanagan, Calgary, Winnipeg,Toronto, Montreal........and you'll see what I mean.
Our Canadian Winters are a stern taskmaster, and know no difference between NA cars and their Japanese counterparts. They all rust at about the same rate!
Furthermore, don't forget Europe, the Middle East, and Asia---lots and lots of old ones there too!!
Lots of my friends' Subarus up there in those years had fenders hanging on with duct tape and baling wire.
Anymore, I rarely bother to wax - my cars are lucky to get washed a few times a year.
Re rust---FYI, in BC, Alberta, Sask and Manitoba, sandblasted windshields are much more prevailent than rust--because of extreme cold a lot of sand is mixed with road salt in those provinces, and it can ruin a windshield in short order. Replacing windshields is a growth industry!
The Alcan Highway is awfully hard on finishes, windshields etc. too. In the early 90's my buddy and I took a brand new pickup and truck camper on it up through the Yukon--had a big hunk of crusher screen mounted in front to protect things, yet the rig looked like it had no paint on it whatsoever after 3 weeks on the road!
I'd regale you with stories of driving a VW Bug up the gravel Alcan in '73, but then Gagrice would have to jump in and we'd really get off track. :shades:
How do you find a scenic drive? anyone?
Ok, one pic just for old times' sake.
Spend some time in Vancouver, The Okanagan, Calgary, Winnipeg,Toronto, Montreal........and you'll see what I mean. "
Are you trying to say that Canadians prefer driving junks? Or perhaps it is a way of life? :confuse:
Answer: "What I said is what I said, nothing more should be interpreted or inferred."
What is this thread supposed to be about anyway?
Toyota in 2008 maybe?
How Toyotas never rusted any worse than most other cars maybe? Of course, I use a special custom rust proofing on my rides (link). Only comes in a sandy brown color unfortunately.
Guess which make didn't make it in the six cars chosen for the 2008 Edmunds' Inside Line Editors' Most Wanted Awards?
And my guess is as long as the buying public keeps sucking up genero-mobiles by the wagonload, I suppose Toyota won't worry. The days of race on Sunday, sell on Monday are far behind us now.
My interest in the brand continues to wane. I think they do what they do very well, but what they do is becoming less and less interesting as years go by.
TWO Audis on the Edmunds pick six? It would be nice to see more than two of the six (I'm counting the Odyssey and the Mazda3 there) be at least somewhat attainable to "regular folks". I guess maybe you could call the Sierra Denali attainable, but at $45K+ (isn't that about right?) it's pretty far up the price scale...
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
And I'll "echo" your comment about having more winners that "everyman" (and woman) can buy.
I guess you didn't read the sarcasism in the following post.
-Rocky
Well the last few years we have been getting winners from GM. Gagrice, when is yota, going to overhaul the 4Runner ???
-Rocky
So we should see the new 4Runner in 15-18 months.
It's interesting to note that Explorer sales have dropped from 400K annually to less than half that now, which is almost the same annual sales as the 4Runner, which haven't dropped very much at all. Two medium-to-large-size BOF SUVs around the $30K mark.
I bet the Highlander steals more sales from the 4Runner in the years to come though.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
That's got to be a record.
Not that I'll be getting one soon but I am really looking forward to the next generation Prius.
One of the hidden 'hooks' in driving one is 'How does one revert to a normal vehcle that only gets 25-30 mpg?' It would be very very hard to go backward especially now that fuel is heading toward the land of $5 per gallon.
There are a lot of Prius owners wating impatiently to 're-up'.
And even the next-gen Echo, the Yaris, makes worse fuel economy.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Apparently two people in the area here did. They had Prius' and now they don't.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I wonder what time it was supposed to get there.
I'm sure there were other extenuating circumstances that voided the purchase.
:shades:
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
There's nothing in the pipeline that will meet my specs in 2009, however. It's possible that when Honda resurrects the Insight as a sport model that year, they will offer a manual. But I am sure they will use a lot of the guts of the current Civic hybrid, which isn't offered with a manual.
Toyota ought to begin offering a couple of small basic Daihatsus for sale in the U.S. again. A 2000 lb 3-cylinder 3-door car would probably fit the bill quite nicely. Bring back the Charade! :-P
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
But it will be a bigger tighter dogfight this year and next.
2007 sales
Camry 473K units
Accord 392K units
Corolla 371K units
Civic 331K units
No news there, except that the CAMRY Solara is being taken out of production in favor of the new Venza. From a post over on TN it appears that the CAMRY Solara accounted for about 40-50K units of sales annually. Now it is a horserace. The No 1 ranking is not something that Toyota takes giving up lightly, IMO. In a soft market like what's forseen in 2008 I'd expect a lot of fireworks around the Camry.
However...
Hello, redesigned Corolla, the No 1 nameplate in automotive history.
By the way, Does any of you see Corolla to overtake Camry as the number one in the near future?
I can envision this happening if fuel really does go up toward $5 a gallon. There might not be enough capacity to stave off the stampede of buyers to small vehicles.
Toyota did 'add' 100,000 units of production by buying into Subaru. The Subie Indiana plant has been offloaded with 100,000 units of Camry production. This may allow the Camry to stay at about 450K but the additional units will have to be all the 4dr models.
That's how my Matrix is, that's how Solara always was.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
What do you guys think? Maybe Lexus will be getting its version of this as well?
2008 Detroit Auto Show: 2009 Toyota Venza
The RX350 shares the same platform as the Highlander.
That's a pretty narrow slot to fit in.
The RX350 shares the same platform as the Highlander.
Does that mean the Toyota Harrier is now extinct?
I can see the Venza will either get the Camry's or Highlander's hybrid engine but I don't think a V6 diesel is happening anytime soon for Toyota. Toyota has made it clear that they are dedicated to hybrid over diesel at least for the passenger car/CUV segment. However, TMC did announce that a V8 diesel is coming our way for the Tundra and Sequoia though.
Isn't that the Pacifica, the model everyone is saying the Venza mimics?
"Is this going to be the camry wagon II w/o 4wd(highlander)?"
Actually, it will have AWD available, in addition to the standard FWD, just like Highlander. And I would call it more of a "Camry sport hatch" - the old Camry wagon was a true wagon: nice and squared off in the back, with the large cargo capacity that entailed. Cargo capacity in the Venza will be compromised by the steep rake of the rear glass, I would think.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Yeah but the first and 2nd gen Camry(1983-1986) and (1987-1991) were compact cars and todays model as well as 92-96 and 97-01 model are much bigger than the Camry from the 80's.
I don't need a sports car, just a nice car that I can drive normally. I had rented a Corolla in Alaska, it was a sports model and I loved it!! Lots of fun on 180 switchbacks on Kodiak. But,, not sure if I need one for New England roads.
What do you people think??
So far it has done well in the snow with no problems here in the midwest. Fuel economy has been good as well but if your hard on the pedal in town it will suck that fuel down! As for the all new 09 Corolla i have not driven one yet but the previous model was excellent although it does lag behind the current Civic and Elantra across the board...in terms of room, safety, features, ect. My advice? Drive them all and make your own choice. Only you can decide which is best for you and your family. If money was no object, in my opinion i think you would like the Civic SI the best because its the sportiest, fastest, and best handling of the group, if your still buying in this class.
Pretty close to the Venza. Which is not a bad thing, we bought a Maxx and for a while really liked it. Concept wise, it was great. Build quality and execution, not so much.
But a well-built Maxx would be a good thing.
Mack