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Again, I stand corrected.
As I mentioned earlier the domestic brands do get points for responding quickly and generously.
On the American car note...it had some kind of window sticker from the factory along the lines of "Built with pride by the UAW" or something...I forget what it was, but something on that sticker was spelled wrong, and that cracked me up. Typical of the attention to detail of the era, no doubt...and Fords were probably the best built domestics then.
Funny ours did the same thing. I remember coming home from a Cubs game in Chicago and the damn car went into limp home mode on the Dan Ryan.....!@#$ and numerous other times, finally had the ECU/PCM replaced and it at least ran.
On the American car note...it had some kind of window sticker from the factory along the lines of "Built with pride by the UAW" or something...I forget what it was, but something on that sticker was spelled wrong, and that cracked me up.
Something like "Built with Kansas City Pride" or something like that (I think all Tempos were made at the KC plant at the time. Funny that something was misspelled on your sticker.
I know we once had a Ford made in St. Louis too, maybe that was a Taurus.
I have to say that there was nothing wrong with that car. It wasn't what I'd buy but it did what it was supposed to do without a hiccup. Of course it did only have 20K on it - but those were rental miles. I don't know if that works like dog years or not but I have to think that a rental mile must count for two regular miles....
Yep, that pretty much describes it.
No doubt rental miles are like dog years. A few years ago I had an Enterprise Kia Spectra with 25K on it that inside looked worse than the Tempo when it had 125K on it - the carpets especially were just horrible. I remember the hubcaps were also all damaged and warped. The car had been abused.
wait i think i remember reading somewhere that toyota did donate...to al quaida :P
Just look on the edge, fools!!! It's right there with 2 other staples of American Coinage, the DATE and MINTMARK!!!!
I think the term Holy Roller is unacceptable here: it's a derogatory term.
"Holy Roller
— n
derogatory a member of a sect that expresses religious fervour in an ecstatic or frenzied way "
--dictionary.com
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I don't know if "He" would be able to afford it, but I know there was a TV minister that my aunt left $350,000 to in the 80s who can well afford it. Without digging out the notification from the executor's attorney about the estate, I'm guessing it was Jimmy Swaggart Ministeries.
This is the aunt who had a Gran Prix when they first made the large car. It was flashy for the farming area in which we lived. She also was the one who drove a car into the brick wall damaging one of the town funeral homes while making a call to a visitation.
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Right!
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
That pretty much fits me to a T.
First car, Dodge, Second, Honda, Third, Audi.
The Dodge helped me to realize I wasn't buying a Big 3 product again in my lifetime.
The Honda's tremendous resale value and 0.00 repair costs over 50 months and 65K miles allowed me to afford to spring for and upgrade to the Audi A3 which has served me fantastically for 72K miles now. Favorite car of my lifetime easily. I think it's time I buy an S3 intercooler and plop that into my A3.
It wasn't that many years ago that a friend of mine in his old beat up '82 Accord 4door sedan decided that we'd hit 115-120 MPH on the I5 Freeway coming up from Stockton to Sacramento. He was at 285,000 miles or so on the odometer and amazingly the car was pretty darn smooth and stable up to about 110
Nothing but the best for God. I had to look up a Wiki about who you meant. Now I wish I hadn't! Grin.
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Sorry, just being mischievous, (no intention to offend)............I'll go and sit on the naughty step.
back in the 1960's ( that show was a hit because of the actors and the car ).
I can't remember the name of the TV show but there are a few Bearcats for sale if you have a ton of extra money to buy it
In more typical circumstances, the only way I found to get that car to go fast was to use the terrain to your advantage. It seemed to have a sticking point around 75 mph where it just seemed to run out of steam in top gear, and wouldn't downshift on its own. However, if you got a downhill slope, and shifted down into 3rd, you'd pick up speed and get past that sticking point, and then from around 85-90 on up it seemed to hold its own, and woul have enough momentum, for the most part, to go up hills without losing speed.
I'll admit, it was a pretty smooth car at 115 mph.
If nearly 3 in10 adults that have completed post-secondary education are living below the poverty line, does this mean the protective benefits of education are diminishing? The rise of the educated and impoverished in America should be cause for great concern for every man, woman, and child, but is it?
Why do adults with post-secondary education make up such a large and growing proportion of the poor population? Well, in part, because the educational composition of the overall population is changing: In essence, a more highly educated poor population reflects the trend towards a more highly educated population in general. From 1981 to 1992, there was a rapid increase in the total number of working-age adults with PSE rising from 3.6 million to 6.8 million. As a result, 40% of the working-age population achieved some form of post-secondary qualification. Even without an increase in the poverty rate, the number of educated poor would have increased substantially because of this changing composition. Additionally, part of the increase in the number of poor working-age adults with post-secondary credentials is the result of an increasing poverty rate among this highly educated group, which climbed from 7% in 1981 to 21% in 2009.
It is surprising that more than 800,000 working-age adults with post-secondary education are--in fact--poor. It challenges our common fundamental belief system about the benefits of higher education. Indeed, we are left to inquire, how could anyone with a post-secondary education be impoverished?
In 2000 for example, 22% of poor working-age adults had obtained a post secondary degree. There was a debate about whether these students were "in fact, poor." Critics argued that students were "not really poor" because their poverty is "temporary"; they often receive some parental support, and many share living expenses with other students. True, some students fit this criterion; many, however, do not. Among those with a post-secondary education who were "impoverished students," 1 in 4 (25%) was between the ages of 35 and 64, and 1 in 5 (22%) had dependent children.
Among poor educated adults who were employed between 2000-2009, the most common occupations were in personal services, food and beverage preparation and other services (17%); clerical occupations (14%); and sales (11%)--this employment sector is beset by high levels of part-time employment, temporary work, and minimum wage. This is also true at the doctoral level--where there are more than 5,000 janitors in the U.S. with Ph.D.’s.
Conversely, contrary to popular belief, it is becoming increasingly clear that earning a Bachelor’s Degree, Master’s Degree or a Ph.D. does not guarantee a job, let alone one with good pay. As elected officials continue to focus their attention on tax breaks for the wealthy, repealing health care and fear mongering, they have moved further away from ending unemployment and poverty, and it would do them well to consider the following question which a growing number of citizens both adult and youth are beginning to ask: “What is the use of further training and higher education if there are too few good paying employment opportunities available?”
Measuring the poverty rate is done without counting in the government assistance in all kinds of forms being given to raise the level of those receiving it to what are not poverty rates--but at the cost of the middle class who are paying taxes.
>repealing health care and fear mongering,
The movement should be to ways to lower the cost of health care rather than the broad tax and jobs killing plan that was passed that just pays higher and higher costs for healthcare by extending it to many others, some deserving and some not legal, and even taxing medical equipment causing higher costs.
If the elected officials had started on January 2009 with real plans to put money into jobs programs rather than slosh huge amounts of money to pet projects of politicans we might have had more employment by now and far less than 1.5 trillion per year deficits for the two years. That makes it harder to get companies who are going to suffer inflation due to lower dollar valuation to employ more while they face higher costs for goods and services due to fuel and transportation inflation. The local fast stop market keeps cutting hours the manager has for employees; they raised their prices on items; and they haven't given raises for years. Oh, the owner used to own the Reds, and I doubt he has kept his benefits the same or less.
Instead we have a government pretending unemployment is about 10% less than it really is. And they are telling us how wonderful it is that the claims for unemployment pay from new claimants is quite as high as it used to be, educated or uneducated.
Jobs are needed and the politicans two years ago thought the recession would just fix itself as they do and jobs would come back with REAL jobs effort at the beginning. The trickle down of an early jobs program would have had more money flowing through other businesses as people spent it and more jobs would have been created along with more tax money for all levels of city, state, federal governments.
As a result of that multiple step money flow, more cars would have been bought and that would have stimulated the economy some even with those imported. Our real problem is the importation of huge amounts of goods. buying American is going to help those in this country a lot more.
>focus their attention on tax breaks for the wealthy
The politicans in the last two.five years have benefitted Wall State much more than other American citizens. The extension of the same tax rate rather than collecting higher taxes from the $250,000 or $1,000,000 earners and up was the last slap form the ones who let the Wall Street firms continue their money-changing in the temples.
I don't think one House can fix what the current government didn't start on in 2009.
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It is the middle class that has gotten us to this point with its demands. Consuming more than they produce with cheap imports on the list. I'm sure political agendas are present but I don't know anyone who lost an election because they were in favor of them.
To get a real look at poverty look at some other countries. To just mandate everyone health care from the current system just robs the bank again. I read the hand-writing on the wall when Clinton cut off funding for medical schools "because we have too many doctors". And that is a direct quote!
The downward spiraling will continue until the middle-class wakes up and becomes independant. Emptying the banks of the rich will only create a temporary fat period. If we, middle-class, don't change, our standard will be that of perhaps India middle-class. Think globally, act locally.
And, he has a Master's degree, so it's not like he's under-edju-mataced.
I must also agree with fintail (and agreeing with him causes me great pain, you know... :P ...) that going to college for a degree in English Lit or Underwater Basket Weaving, or History of the Roman Empire is simply a waste of time and money...I also wonder what courses somebody takes when they major in Black Studies or Women's Studies and get a degree in those topics, and are they useful in the post-grad world of reality and employment...
So, it might be foolhardy to stop at a HS diploma, and even more foolhardy to go into major debt for a college degree that may be worthless...there is always trade school, of course...automotive technician, plumber, electrician, carpenter, HVAC technician, etc.
Or, you could give up all sense of pride and self-respect and become a scum-sucking, parasitic lawyer...but who would ever really DO that???... :shades:
Well, my brother did that - oh, wait! That just confirmed your hypothesis....
10% and non Americans hold a lot of our jobs. Time to tell them to go back home ! Why are we over taxing our own people instead of jacking up the import taxes on COMMUNIST CHINA and Japan and the Europeans that all basically hate us but will take our money ? Consider the underemployed rate also, for those Americans that can't get a good 40 hour pay check, but they say " at least I have a job " as they sell their trucks and boats and motorcycles and lose their homes to the Big Business Banks. Yes I have a relative in BANKING and she has a huge house and no money problems, take note that she is only a branch assistant manager and not the top of the food chain there.
Domestic manufacturing is not owned by Americans for the most part . America is for sale by the greed of CORPORATE America and the flood of
ILLEGAL Immigrants that we have to feed with food stamps and pay for their section 8 housing and pay for their kids to go to Collage. POLITICIANS in our government let all this and more happen. How about them telling you that you HAVE to by HEALTH Insurance, that's against the law for any American Government to force YOU to buy anything!!!!! All the while the RICH get away with out paying taxes (or very little because of loop holes for them ). A friend of mine knows a millionaire and he pays ZERO TAXES.
The [non-permissible content removed]'S are moving in, they have factories here and say they have American employees. And so they do, as my son worked for TOYOTA ( the
people that sold you death in a car if you remember ), he made junk for money and had to quit to get a job that did not make a nonAmerican company rich. He fought in the war in IRAQ with the 101st Airborne and some of our boys did not come home alive ! Our government treats them just like those of us that fought in NAM. ( Remember that they said that that would never happen again, another of their lies ). But take note that the cost of gas at the pump KEEPS going up at the cost of their blood and we can't ever get them back because dead is DEAD. Is there something wrong with this picture ? WAKE UP because yesterday WAS TOO LATE !!!
Just a thought. Also Look up Numbers USA on your computer.
The changes to Wall Street by the current leader helped Wall STreet rather than put the controls on. He knows which side of the Reelection donations his fate is buttered on.
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The Fed Works for the Chinese
Who bankrolled the opening of China to begin with?
I personally will not touch any GM car produced after the Govt. takeover, and Chrysler is also dead meat..So Ford is the only one standing and the 2010 Mustang GT along with the pre-Obama Pontiac Grand Prix GT 2006 are in my garage..Not great cars but fun autos to drive..Fast and noisy, just what a 77 yr old needs.. Spent 34 yrs selling components to the Big3..
Warren Buffett's investment in China will start paying him off further maybe.
http://www.mainstreet.com/article/smart-spending/autos/chinas-biggest-automaker-- coming-america
It mentions advancing battery tech, but doesn't actually say anything about alternate powertrains. Odd.
I think that we need fairer trade laws with China, though. The scale is so unbalanced. We have already sold ourselves out to a degree that if we tried to start reversing it, like yesterday, it will take at least an entire generation to see out the other side.
As I read these forums, I am amazed at the extent that Americans, (even moreso it seems, than North Americans) have embraced Asian product. It is like it it has become the new benchmark to be judged against.
As manufacturers of world goods ourselves, how did we ever let it get this out of control? Incredible that our heads were just so buried in the sand. The grumpy sleeping dog was awakened, and now we must side-step, lest we get nipped at.
If I am at the hardware store and I see a...water hose nozzle for the backyard. After blowing off the dust so I can read the label, one says Made in USA or Canada (after determining that was it the product or the packaging...which is a whole other topic, because packaging laws are part of the problem, and the conspiracist in me figures that was part of the plan all along. Confuse the people so they don't know which end is up) and the other says Made in China... (no dust on that label) I will pay more for the Made in America one unless it looks like a pc of junk. I am not a wealthy person. I feel more Americans should be aware of just how much money they spend out of nation. The real number would knock the vast majority of us right out.
There's also a difficulty these days determining where food is made. Our sinister corporate masters have developed their own set of rules for everyone.
You don't see much poisoned and/or made under slave labor junk in Europe.
Exactly. - i did an edit cuz i misread it at first.
Just watched a show on Friday night talking about how they are using so many antibiotics in chickens and basically all the factory farmed animals, that now if we get sick almost ALL the antibiotics available to us like...can't recall the name, started with a 'c' which is reserved as considered safe for children and pregnant women, and they are using that very one being the BEST there is, on all the animals. It used to be used on 'sick' animals. But now it is injected as common protocol, and to hell with us and the ramifications that entail. Money money money. And trying to resist getting sued no doubt... but again, money money money.
But because of it, now the top 11 antibiotics we count on to save us from things like salmonella etc. are all resistant now and we can't count on them working. Big names were mentioned too! Like Maple Leaf and many others.
This seems like a better spot, and I'm assuming you'll find it ok. Speak up or I'll have to email you the link.
Re food, new labeling laws went into effect in 2009, and while it's still weak, it's a start. I'm able to more easily buy US grown garlic now for example. (fitsugar.com)
Check out Omnivore's Dilemma sometime - interesting food read.
ok will do, but had it been vegetarian based I would likely pass. :shades: