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as guilty of responding with some of the hogwash
that has been posted in here. i too come here to
see what the Tundra guys have to say and am more
interested in hearing about the new V-8 than
anything else. sad as it may be though you have a
couple of goofballs that have nothing better to
do than to louse it up for everybody else. as you
can see if someone posts a legitimate question
it( even one that's addressed to another
participant) it gets answered by trucksrme or
fossil or what ever. then it starts a chain
reaction to end up looking like a childish forum
as you have seen. myself personally have decided
not to respond to these idiots anymore. OBYONE
said it best, "just ignore them and most likely
they will go away". i think the only way meredith
can eliminate them from posting is to kick them
off edmunds, and i think so far they've stayed,
silly as they are, within the original agreement
when you sign up. i may be wrong on this. also i
have a strong suspicion that the clowns that are
doing these hillbilly posts are a lot smarter
than we think they are. if you look at some of
the words they use and misspell you will see that
they don't always misspell the same words twice.
it's as if they're just coming here to ruin it
for the ones that really want to talk about the
Tundra, which is a great truck by the way.
...red
your comment against the tundra. second, have you
ever experienced the performance of a DOHC
engine? I own a silverado ext. cab LB because i
needed the long bed and tundra isn't made with
the LB yet. mine has the 5.3 and isn't a long
ways above the tundras power. third what truck do
you own right now?
thanx,
RED
It is my understanding that the Tundra falls under some sub category (the main category is "heavy duty truck" by the way) of truck that has very specific weight restrictions and the addition of a hitch pushes it into another category. This may have something to do with CAFE standards which takes the average weight and fuel economy of the FULL LINE of trucks. By not allowing the hitches on the Limited, I believe Toyota keeps the average weight of the line within the boundries of what the EPA allows.
This makes at least some sense when you realize that the Tundra is the first truck to meet the EPA's "Low Emission Vehicle" category. It is possible that the addition of a hitch to enough trucks would lower the emission rating below the EPA standards for LEV status. The Limited was probably picked to not have the hitch because that is all the numbers Toyota needed to keep the average for the truck line.
I know this is not a definitive answer but it is what I have been able to piece together from conversations with our parts and service director and with our district manager from Toyota.
The solution is very simple. Buy an aftermarket hitch like I did. It does not look as nice but it does the same thing.
I am well aware that it does not make sense but that is not Toyota's fault. There is no mechanical reason you can't put a hitch on the Limited and I have given as good an explanation as I have been able to piece together based on conversations with factory guys and our parts and service department. The real deal is, Toyota had no choice but to comply with some BS regulation.
You mean to tell me you can't go into a local Toyota parts department and get a hitch after the truck has been sold? Does that even effect Toyota CAFE or other federal restrictions after the fact? Just curious.
Thanks
in March the dearlership call and advised me that
it received allocation and truck has a built date
of 12 June and would provide me a vin# once the
truck was being ship. Does this sound right to
you?
You will not get the VIN right on the 12th though. That is actually the build week. It can start down the line any time that week. From the time it is built, it takes 2 to 3 weeks until the dealer has it on his lot.
Congratultions on the order.
Very seriously, even as a dealership employee, I had to buy a non-Toyota hitch and paid my shop guys as a side job to keep it off the books. It is serious business for us to keep compliance with our beloved federal regulators. I feel safer already.
"This vehicle is not intended for towing, and is not available with towing hitch. Owner installs hitch at his own risk. Warranty work may be denied if vehicle used for towing. EPA fines may apply."
This IS a mystery. Good luck on this one now!
I didn't look up the numbers but if you feel the truck is worth it, it was a good deal. Your
request was very specific and you may have paid
more than if you just bought one off his lot.
Translation be as follows:
That factory really got ya good on that one!
Good luck on this one now!
from toyota. Thank you for info on this website
and Jon & Kirk. It's worth every penny since I am
getting exactly what I want.
Whatever, I love my truck. I still say the brakes "feel" superior to either the Chevy or the Ford and most definitely are better then the Dodge. Discs or Drums I could care less, whatever gets the job done right. Besides, I hate cleaning brake dust off of the 4 wheels on our Accord coupe.
Well I crossed the 9000 mile mark and the truck is just as tight and solid as the day I picked it up. Mileage is getting better, averaging about 16 now. That is very good for all the short hops I do, usually less then 8 miles in town and city driving. I am starting to think just maybe we use O2 gas here in the winter or whatever the winter mix is here effects mileage quite a bit. What do I care, it's not like I bought my Tundra or any other truck I have ever owned for their stellar gas mileage. Sure I would love to get 60 miles per gallon, but hey I am a realist. You have to pay to play.
Why don't you get a life, man? This is a site about and for the TOYOTA TUNDRA. Your opinions about hitches, yuppies, value vs. Chevy, etc. are really not important on this site. I believe I am safe in saying that most of us here weighed other vehicles against the Tundra BEFORE we purchased, and made the decision right for us, which was Totota. Why not go back to your hiding spot or back to a Chevy site and interject your silly hillbilly comments there?
changes? especially wondering about legroom
in the back.
-thanks slp77
My truck, aside from the signal light coming on when the brake is pressed, has been flawless! Something in the wiring harness caused the signal light mix-up, but it was fixed and now I have no problems. Gas mileage is improving also. Truck has ~1300 miles.
Awsome truck!!!
Tskyplayer2
To me the other trucks aren't that big of deal, heck when you're talking in excess of 24K it's all the same to me. I'd pay for a Tundra over the others any day it's just the better truck...for me that is.
I read all the negative comments about the Tundra before I bought it and now that I have it, I can't figure what truck the bashers are talking about. Which leads me to believe people lie to justify their cause. My trucks GREAT!!!
Toyota Tundra SR5 V8 Access Cab 4WD - Base MSRP - $27,745
Hmmm. That works out to a 4% price difference.
The Tundra will out tow, out accelerate and out haul the Silverado. It has a standard transmission and oil cooler and a 40% longer powertrain warranty. Seems like the playing field has been leveled to me.
Not to mention the consumer reports predicted reliability for a Chevy Silverado is -80%. It was so bad that it would not fit on their chart.
Chevy
Motor Standard=4.8L 270hp, 285 ft lbs
Toyota, 3.4L standard, 190hp,, 220 ft lbs, wow that must really outpull the silverado
Towing=7,500 lbs for Chevy, 5,000 for the Toyota
Chevy 4wheel ABS, Toyota optional
boy I think you didn't do your homework, yuppies who just want the in thing, man their off the mark,
not really in thing considering their numbers to the big 3
The US a free country and that good but, it sure would have been nice if "trucksrme" was born elsewhere(Siberia or Mongolia come to mind).
I have visited this board much less since he's been taking up this space, and I feel that many of the Tundra topics were created by others that were just trying to escape him and others like him.
Lets hope some day we can just talk about Tundras.
See you later.
I too come to this board less because of our redneck hillbilly humor "participant", if you call him that.
I really just don't get where he has an ax to grind with Tundra owners -- as I've stated over and over, the Chevy/GMC product was just not right for ME. If they work for him, SUPER. He continues to beat a dead horse on the Limited/hitch issue. Who the heck cares? You can buy an aftermarket hitch for just over $100 -- so why even ponder why the factory won't put one on a LTD model?
Thanks for the reply ........
trade the '52 chevy in on a tundra. see when him
and sis got married pa gave 'em that truck. if he
trades it in and gets the toyota then he's gotta
whole new worry. if sis leaves him for brother
(tractorsrme) then she'll take off with the
tundra and he'll be the lafin' stock of the
county. he knows the tundra is one heck of a
truck and it's eatin' him down to the 'ol
driveshaft, if you know what i mean.
great, i'll probably get one of his goofy lessons
of the day speach. oh boy i can't wait.
Traffic & Safety website. Those big 3 are not
perfect. Sure they build more in a year (half_ss)
That's why you see more of the big 3 on used car
lots vice toyota. You would think since they been
building the trucks for 25 yrs plus that they
would be a better procduct. Not!!! To me all truck
are worth getting for different jobs. It's just
a matter of preference and what you do. So, let
cut the crying and put some useful info for people
out there instead of my truck is better then your
truck stuff.
Full-Size Pickup Truck Segment
1. Toyota Tundra
2. Ford F-150 Light Duty
3. Ford F-250 Super Duty
Not bad for a first year vehicle.
On the other hand - Chevy Silverado scored -90% in Consumer Reports predicted reliability for 2000 full size pickups. It was so bad, it was off their chart. The only other vehicle to rate this bad was the GMC Sierra.
Its a good thing that Chevy parts are so cheap because the poor owners will need them - lots of them. Is Chevy labor cheaper too?
how about I just stick with talking to people I meet, From what I've heard teh tundra or toyotas in general have no better quality than the silverado and from being in both the build quality on both is equal.
But I need a truck I can do work with, no whimpy Lexus motor truck, room for 3 men and equipment,
so I will stay with Chevy, besides I want to buy from American Corporations that have union workers!
And@!! if the F150 is no good why then did toyota want to name the tundra the T150 and the truck has a whole lot of similiarities, dash etc, even magazines say this@!
Inteli-choice also just rated the Silverado as the best buy in full size trucks. They look at total cost of ownership. It had the lowest combined depreciation, operating and maintenance costs of all the full size trucks. The article was very short and they did not say if the Tundra was included as a full size truck or if it was included in with the mid-size trucks. Does not really matter because the Tundra did not win the Mid-size category either.