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  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    Interesting... I didnt realize Toyota only offers 1 rear end... another reason the big 3 are better in some ways: more choices. As for the Silverado, it doesn't suprise me that it beats out the Toyota in the quarter but not to 80. Depending on how you equip it the Chevy weighs up to 500 lbs mroe, so it takes mroe to move all that weight off the line but but once its up to speed it can take the Toy. And where does all that weight go? Into a stronger truck with a more spacious interior and a bigger engine.
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    Its not just them "gears" that be out of that tacoma. Them "full size" tundras be sharin the entire pumpkin with them little tacomas. They also to usin that tacomas transfercase, and sharin that trannie with them t100 ones. Wonder how long that "full size" tundra be holdin up if put too workin with all of them mini drivetrain parts now. Good luck on this one now!
  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    I don't like about the Tundra is that no dealer even wants to try find 6 cylender 5 speed access cabs or other stripped models. They are very hard to get and there usually arent alot on lots. Seems like both toyota and the dealers want to force us into trucks with gizmos and extravagances we dont need to up their profit margins. At a Ford dealer I can easily find anything from stripped, V6 5speed f150s for those who just want a bare bones work truck to leathered out top of the line XLT's and Lariats.
  • barlitzbarlitz Posts: 752
    If you go to the Toyota site and look up the Tundra they say its quicker than Ford or chevy but they are going against the fords 4.6 with low gears and chevy's smaller engine with low gears.If you just put 4.10 gears on the 4.6 it would beat the Tundra.The way Toyota rates there trucks is absurd that would be like Ford using the lightning against Chevy and Toyota,and the lightning would smoke both Chevy and Toyota even with a head start.Be real when you compare trucks make them as close as possible.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    Tundra quicker than Mustang GT? Sure it is! (LOL!)

    Tundra was slightly quicker than my '99 Silverado, but not off the line....

    The 2000 Silverado tested in Motor Trend was quicker to 60 and 1/4 ET than Tundra.
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    Them tundras bein quicker than them big3 ones be just another one of them myths started by that toy factory. They be blowin smoke with that fine print for sure. Kinda like that myth about that toyota reliablility, all the while them head-gaskets be popin off left and right now. Huh! Only the fool-hardy be fallin for these factory myths now. The truth just seems too have a way of gettin out on these here limited ones now. Good luck on this one now!
  • lapslaps Posts: 4
    The difference between this BBS and one like is analogous to the contrasts in venue and persons found in a downtown bar at 2:00 AM (full of pathetic drunks who lost touch with reality a long time ago) and the downtown library (full of persons interested in researching information based on facts or who enjoy the eloquence of reading thoughts from those more enlightened than they). I would like to see those on this site who are truly interested in the Tundra (and you know who you are) to please not waste their time here simply because your contributions are lost in this swamp (or more appropiately, this Zoo).
  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    I actually agree, Many of the arrogant elitist Tundra owners on this site who make assumptions about other's education levels and income level because they own domestic trucks seem tired of hearing Big 3 owners prove to them again and again that the Tundra does not have the work capacity of the big 3 and is a personal use commute vehicle for Suburbanites bored with SUV's. They can always go to a Tundra cite and wax eloquent about smooth rides, luxurious interiors, Consumer Reports ratings, and 0-60 times all they want free of interruption. If you put down other trucks here brand loyalists will gladly put you in your place and tell you things about your newest toy that you probably didnt even know.
  • Before you go waxing eloquently, you ought to learn to spell. Site is with an S.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    The reason dealerships are reluctant to order specific trucks is because Toyota makes it very difficult for us to do it. We pretty much just take what Toyota sends us. I happen to have two V6 4x4 manual transmission Access cabs in stock. They are the only two of this configuration in the Central Atlantic Region.
  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    OK I made a mistake or two in spelling, sometimes I get lazy and don't bother with the spell check and I do tend to get absent minded about my word usage, usually because I think the message is important enough that noone will stoop to picking out grammatical errors to sound like they are making a good rebuttal without actually addressing the facts. Do you want to continue to nitpick on or do you want to actually talk trucks and respond to the substance of my comments? Sorry I'm not the best speller, I guess owning a Ford truck can drag your IQ down. Maybe when I'm ready to get smarter I'll be goin out and by me a Tundra!
  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    Ok you may be correct but regardles of who is to blame for the shortage of V6 manual access cabs the fact remains that I can find trucks of all kinds of configurations at my nearest Ford or Chevy dealer, with many all too happy to try and order what they don't have.
  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    Long bed or shortbed extended cab, V6 5speed extended cab, 5spd with V8, the options are limitless! Unless you're a Toyota buyer, in which case they think too many choices will confuse you
  • flycst2flycst2 Posts: 4
    As a newbie, it's sure seems odd that so much time is wasted discussing incorrect "facts". In discussing the Tundra powertrain (or is it power-train?)longevity, a good comparison is the Land Cruiser. I would say the Land Cruiser is a closer comparison to the Tundra than the T100 or Tacoma. (Please use some facts, rather than circumspection to make comparisons.) It would be interesting to know the design specifications of the T100 vs. Tundra vs. Land Cruiser powertrain.

    As far as truck comparisons go, please review the "targeted buyer's" for the vehicle. You will find that the corporations define a buyer for the type of vehicle they are building. Tundra's are not the "be-all" work truck. They do not have as many options, nor are they as big as GM, Ford, and Dodge's offerings. They do have enough options for most people, however.

    Regarding Japanese history:
    My father tells me that a Japanese Zero seemed to be manufactured well enough to severely damage the carrier he served on. By the way when the war was over we went to rebuild Japan, not necessarily show them new manufacturing methodologies, we actually learned a bit from them. Both Japan and Germany did very well in this area, hence their ability to successfully wage war against much larger opponents.

    Yes, they do have unfair trade issues. Send a letter to your Senator.

    I agree, if you want a sports car do not buy a truck. Do not bring a knife to a gun battle either.

    Another thing, I live in California (bring it on). I can get a comparably equipped Tundra for $2500-3000 less than a Silverado. Edmunds pricing sheets seem to match this.

    For a discussion group that has 195 posts, there is very little usefull information. Head gaskets issues are valid. Configuration questions are also valid. What you do on the farm is also valid, provided it is backed up by relevant logic.

    Everybody has hidden agendas, just tone them down a little. I want to gain knowledge about what truck or SUV to buy for MY NEEDS. If I want to learn about human behavior I will take a psychology class. If you have gripes share them, regardless of make/model, just stick to the topic.

    Now it's time to gather my friends and watch the show.
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    It be that toy factory that be callin that tundra "full size" now. Guessin that be definein that "target" audience for sure. Them with a "full size" truck be workin them trucks. We be workin em on the farm and such, and there aint no way that limited one be holdin up if ya start workin it like a "full size" one now. Fact is the fact on this one. That factory should be callin it what it be, a mid-size truck for the yuppie. There aint nothin wrong with that, just wish folks be acceptin what it be, thats all. As for that toy "reliablility", there aint no facts too be backin this up. If anything, them head-gaskets popin be showin just the opposite. But again, folks be stickin there head in the sand on this one too! I just dont be gettin how some folks be so blind on these here basic facts now. Good luck on this one now!
  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    Makes perfect sense to me. You tell me why you like your truck, I tell you why I like mine, we're both happy. Tell me your truck was designed by god and mine is sh#t and I will not just sit there and take it. And the Tundra engine may be comparable to the Landcrtuiser, but in size and various underpinnings the Tundra seems mroe comparable to the T100. The maiun thing that annoys me is when Tundra make the leap in logic thinking that their truck is best for meeting their needs(Light hauling, recreation, towing a boat or trailer of 7000 lbs or less, long trips,stoplight racing) to thinking it is the best truck overall.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    Do you know what the suspension on the T100 was? Our newbie flysct2 is correct that the Tundra shares more with the Cruiser than the T100. The T100 has such a completely different suspension system and frame that is could not be simply reworked into a Tundra. The Tundra is the first "full size" truck with one piece frame rails, it has coil springs instead of torsion bars, more cross member and a longer wheel base than either the T100 or Cruiser.

    I feel foolish for giving you a reasoned response to your question about ordering a Tundra. Had I known you were just another rabble rouser, I would have ignored you like I do so many others.
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    Yep, and what would folks be expectin from one who be sellin them limited ones? But the fact is the fact, them tundras just be this years t100. Dont ever forget now, that factory called them t100 ones "full size" too. And what about them driveline parts cliffy? That tundra be usin that pumpkin out of that tacoma, that transfer case out of that tacoma, and that trannie out of that t100. Are ya makin them tundra buyers aware of these here facts now? So much for them "all new" trucks now. What say on them tacoma parts now? Good luck on this one now!
  • jq3jq3 Posts: 52
    Everyone is taliking this, talking that and I personally believe the most of the people lie and rumor about the defects on the opposing truck. Both side are guilty, Toyota owners and the Big 3 owners. I say this because I know people who own Fords, Chevys, Toyotas and Dodges and NOT ONE of them has had problems like described here on this BBS. Not one! So it leaves me to believe that someone is lying.

    I've owned a Tacoma and guess what NO PROBLEMS. My wife owns a 4-Runner, has had it 3 years, and guess what, NO PROBLEMS! No head gasket, no tranny problems, only one thing... a freon leak!!! I know people that own F-150's and swear by them...NO PROBLEMS! No one has had any of these 'phantom' problems some of you make up.

    In fact, I was going to buy a F-150 but, it is just tooooo big for my needs. When I need one I'll buy one. A couple of days ago while I was at the hardware store I parked by a '00 F-150 and I swear it made my truck (size-wise) look like a Tacoma! My wife and I both agreed it was way too big for me. If you're into size and need it, buy a F-150. If not the Tundra is the BEST choice out there at this time. When compared to the F-150, Silverado, and Dodge, I have to admit that the Tundra is smaller. I'm glad they made it this size but, if I were building trucks and wanted to compete with the big 3 I would definitely have built it the same size as one of the Big 3 or larger. Just common sense to me! But, I get the feeling that Toyota wasn't trying to target the main core of the truck market, just the niche like me who really is not into the size thing. I can only guess that they needed to stir the pot a little bit about it being a full-size. Good for sales probably, it sure has this place fired up!!

    As far as the CLAIMS by "trucksrme" about the Tundra not being as tough on a farm. Don't know about that claim and neither does he I'll bet! But it appears he likes to stir up the pot with his own deviated opinion. But, nonetheless it's his and he is entitled to it. You probably won't see the Tundra on many farms because most farms are passed down generation after generation and they probably buy what the family has always bought...Ford, Chevy, or Dodge. Not that nothing else isn't more reliable, it's all they know. Think about it and it'll make sense!

    I am tired of all the BS from both sides. My Tundra works for me, his Ford works for him, his Chevy works him, and his Dodge works for him. Nothing else matters, beside all of the trucks have their own problems. When they make a perfect anything, I'll take 2! I don't care what brand it is!!!

    I've been very long-winded on this post and I don't plan on commenting anymore about the Tundra vs anyone! It's gotten plain BORING. Because you don't know what to believe, I swear I think 60% of you tell lies, just to support your on agendas!
  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    that was very reasonable, wellspoken, and made a lot of sense to me. As before I will never pick fights in this forum and will always be more than hapy to listen to what people love about their trucks. But I don't back down either.
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    Got to agree with ya on them 2 points now. First, ya be right on that size of them tundras, they be alot smaller than them big3 ones. Second one ya be right on is we wont ever have no tundra on this here farm for sure. Now if that cliffy just be admitin too them tacoma parts sharin, we be hearin nothin but truths at last! Good luck on this one now!
  • 27jr27jr Posts: 22
    If everyone really want's to know anything about
    the problem of vehicles including trucks just
    go to this website and you will find
    out all the info you want from recalls, customer
    complaints, defects etc. Those of you who are
    concerned about the head of V6 Tacoma that problem
    happened a long time ago and was corrected. I do
    not know how many times TRUCKSME is going to use
    that one but that is true and was listed on the
    National Highway Traffic & Safety Administrations
    BBS. The facts are there are more CONSUMER
    THE TUNDRA. I do agree it's smaller then the BIG3
    but, to each his own.
  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    considering they sell roughly 800,000 F150's a year and about 100,000 Tundras that doesn't suprise me. And I also agree about that last part. To each his own. But don't fool yourself into thinking that because the Tundra meets your light hauling and commuter needs and seems superior based on skewed statistics and biased magazine reports that it is the best or most capable truck on the market.
  • lmeyer1lmeyer1 Posts: 215
    Cliffy1, if you have a second take a look at the picture of a true four door Tundra at

    Just click on "News".

    Do you know if this thing is for real?
  • Hi Everyone,

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    I am going to go everywhere and tell people that they are wrong and I am right. I don't have much of a life, but don't feel sorry for me. I am on a mission to tell everyone that I am right. I like domestics trucks, so logically I should go now to an import truck chat room to tell them how right I am. I need to go now, I am in trouble because my 2nd grade report card said that I do not know how to get along well with others. My diaper needs to be changed and I want my bottle. Waaa!!!
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    Heard weepin from folk like ya for many a year. Aint got the fact so ya be doin the weepin. Be it so, still dont change the fact none. Them tundras aint no "full size" truck, and it dont do no good to compare em with them big3 ones. They aint got no haul in em, that be there basic flaw now. For the yuppie this be fine, but the workin man needs em a real truck with haul. Some folk just dont get it, and judgin by ya post, you be one of em. Good luck on this one now!
  • eharri3eharri3 Posts: 645
    this is not an import chat room. This is a pickup posting board with a section to comment on imports. Tundra owners can either go on and on about Toyota reliability, Consumer Reports, 0-60 times, and whatever at a Tundra site where big 3 owners dont even post or you can say what you want here and be prepared to have others respond to your comments when you put their trucks down just because they have a different nameplate than yours.
  • rooster9rooster9 Posts: 239
    Trucksrme, why do you say the Tundra's tow capacity does not even compare to the big 3's? According to the latest comparo in Motortrend, the tow capacity of the Silverado is 8000 lbs, F-150 is 7400 lbs, Ram is 7250, and Tundra at 7100 lbs. Do you see a big difference there? And yes, all trucks are with the biggest engines. The Silverado is the highest, so does that mean the F-150 can't pull as much as the Silverado? No, it's just the manufacturers towing capacity rating, mostly based on what there lawyers would agree upon. Actually the brakes probably pay more of a roll then the engine does. Fact is, if the Tundra has the power to keep up with the others in a 0-60 drag race, and the torque is comparable, then it's gotta be a better-than-average puller. Besides, I think most people know what they're gonna tow before they go out and buy a truck, so they probably will never even reach the limit of what it says the truck's maximum pulling capacity is, they'll buy a bigger truck than what the job calls for.

    How about we say to everyone in here that they should just be happy they have a new truck to drive around in, instead of an old beater.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    yea...but that's no fun...
  • trucksrmetrucksrme Posts: 381
    Dont know what that MT had to say on that haul. But here some facts on it:

    Chevrolet 1/2 ton max tow: 9500
    tundra 1/2 ton max tow: 7100

    Unlike them tundras, them big3 be offerin what be called the "options". With these here options, folks can get one equipped for the haul.

    Now for some more "little" facts:
    That tundra be usin the trannie out of that t100, and that rearend be out of that tacoma, and that transfercase be out of that tacoma. You really think them compact truck parts be holdin up to real truck work now? Figure this one out for ya self now. Good luck on this one now!
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