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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    LOL! That one goes in the "Classic Book". :D

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    "...that is what I have a wife for."

    You and me both! :D;) :shades:

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    edited January 2011
    If you didn't get time and a half, have your personnel director call me. I'll quote him/her the law. :P

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    LMAO!!! What a waste of a good drug. If it works that well, you might not need the shovel! :shades: :sick:

    Richard
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Given that shoveling snow has been proven to be very hazardous to people over 45

    What isn't hazardous to us old geezers?

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    1. The cold temperatures can constrict the blood vessels, putting a bigger strain on the heart while shoveling snow.

    While cold weather can constrict blood vessels, however if properly warmed up and properly clothed the work performed can keep the body warm enough.

    2. Using only the arms while standing in an upright position can cause "pooling" of the blood in your legs and feet.

    Shoveling snow while standing in an upright position results in a very small portion of the driveway being shoveled. most people move their legs walking around while shoveling.

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  • verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,288
    I gotta think about that for awhile…I’d hate like hell to be out there shoveling for 4 hours.


    LOL Don't forget to call your doctor afterwards ... to brag.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    3. Throwing snow over your shoulder adds more strain to your heart muscles.

    I was just thinking about this, who actually throws the snow over their shoulder? I don't think I have seen many do that. I usually just sccop it up and toss it forward off the sidewalk or driveway, not lifting it to high.

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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Yeah, throwing snow over your shoulder would be showing off...

    Richard - I have kept manual labor to an absolute minimum. Just had to clear an extra little bit of width at the driveway apron and one of my 9 year olds really did most of that. She helped get the van unburied as well.

    For this sort of storm we really lucked out. Because of the ocean temp it started as slush, didn't start really snowing until midnight and was done buy 6 AM.
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  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    edited January 2011
    Sounds like a finely aged bourbon for the discriminating palate (not plate oldfarmer). But, in reality it is a brand of ice cream. What's this got to do with cars? Absolutely nothing. But, I bought an "almost" quart of Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough (for the kids) the other day. It didn't have a single chip, but what looked to be chocolate shavings a few microns thick. This seems like false advertising to me, or the "Jipst Method" of making chocolate chip ice cream. :sick:

    While on the subject of grocery stores... please people, park your grocery carts on one side of the isle, or the other. And be aware of your surroundings the same as if you were stranded in the parking lot. Don't just stand in the middle of the isle like a melting glacier, other people would like by. I'll give you a few seconds ,nudge close, and then if still oblivious I'll give a
    nice "excuse me". But, it really shouldn't have to come to that should it?

    "Serenity now... Serenity now". O.k, pet peeves vented and discussed. I can cancel my psychotherapist session for tomorrow. :lemon: :P
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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    Please don't be stubborn on this issue. You live in snow country and i want you to take care of yourself. You are always an excellent debater with logical answers, but the evidence is out there on this one. I don't want to have to fly to Chicago and kick [non-permissible content removed]. Just don't do it.

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    "I can cancel my psychotherapist session for tomorrow."

    You better keep that appointment. I can tell that today's session didn't go well. :P :D :shades:

    Richard
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    So you'll fly to Chicago to kick snake's [non-permissible content removed] but when you are nearby here do I get a call? :(
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,374
    That dumb dealer brought a lot of bad press on himself when all he had to do was refund the money.

    Serves him right!


    Back in the 1970's my Dad had a client who came in and asked him to probate her husband's estate. It seems that her husband had been hospitalized for a minor surgical procedure and one of the orderlies screwed up his oxygen supply- the guy ended up in a coma in the ICU. He lingered there for 30 days and died. Dad told the widow she had a good malpractice case but the lady said "Nothing will bring him back, I don't want to deal with a lawsuit."
    The hospital quickly changed her mind when it billed her for over $50,000 for the 30 days her husband was in the ICU. Needless to say, the resulting malpractice case cost the hospital considerably more than the ICU bill that they should have eaten...

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Well after discussing this with my doctor especially after talking about my biking and what I put my heart through on it he said snow shoveling isn't going to do me in.

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    I did forget about you being a biker. I'm sure that you are in top physical condition. Still, common sense prevails. Just be careful and don't over do. I would think that the average person doesn't enjoy your phjysical stamina. That's why my warnings were so intense.

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    "...but when you are nearby here do I get a call?"

    I can't call an unknown number. :confuse: Besides, I do email you at times. :D BTW, I don't remember getting a call when you came to the Outer Banks. :cry:

    Richard
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,135
    roadburner....you just touched on a medical story with me.

    Last Spring, while recovering from that "mild" heart attack in Snake's fair city, one of the Drs (seems like I had a gaggle of them watching over me) asked if it would be OK to do a battery of tests on me at Northwestern's expense. This is after I got my heart "tune-up" (stents). This Dr went onto explain that Northwestern is a "teaching" and "research" hospital, that my procedure went particularly well, as did my response to it. And, that I personally presented a unique opportunity to evaluate their processes to incorporate into their R&D/teaching.

    Not one to pass up an opportunity to "make a deal", I told the nice DR that I appreciated his help, and his offer to do some research on me at "no charge". But, I also pointed out that I was, for all intents and purposes, a free guinea pig. Afterall, they have to pay for cadavers. What's a living person worth to poke and prod?

    DR left, saying he did not have the authority to offer me any sort of compensation, but that I should do it to further their research.

    My response....."I may be in a weakened state but I'm not feeling that right now, but bring someone in who can make such a decision."

    A couple of hours later, the main chief head honcho Doc comes sauntering over to my beautiful suite (my ICU room) with his entourage (other Docs who couldn't be any more obvious how much they wanted to kiss chief Doc's derriere). Chief Doc reiterated how it would be a wonderful, humanitarian gesture on my part to give them permission to do some sort of tests, that were obviously not on the regular list of tests normally accepted after having stents put in.

    I was extremely appreciative of what these Docs did for me. And, I was very thankful to the supreme deity to have spared my life. However, I do know that both myself, and my insurance company is going to be sent a very large bill, probably one that was tremendously inflated (i.e. thinking about the charge for the lovely half pajama evening wear they were sure to overinflate charges for).

    Time for a little horse trading.

    "OK, what are these tests (a non-prescribed MRI, even more blood taken for something I didn't understand, and an x-ray for some reason I didn't understand)." Allegedly, all this could be done in a 2 hour window and would be extremely helpful to Northwestern's research.

    "I don't want to see a bill."

    DOC-"No, these tests would be at the hospital's expense".

    ME-"No, I mean no bill ever hits my mailbox. No co-pay....no deductible...no money out of my pocket for anything."

    DOC (stammering a bit)-"Well, that is highly unusual." Uncomfortable silence for about 30 seconds. "But, I think I can make that work."

    That was last May. Haven't seen one bill, not even one piece of correspondence from any of the Drs or the Hospital since!

    I know, not a car story, but it did have a negotiation hint to it! :)
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,690
    >forget about you being a biker.

    Bikers have heart attacks too. Know of an area coach who was athletic himself. Played basketball. Stayed fit. He rode his bike 20 miles away and more regularly.

    One day he had a massive heart attack when he stopped to talk to someone along the road.

    One just never knows what the old ticker might do.

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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Now. now. I di try to get you to come out to Nag's Head in August but I remember something about "oh, we're hours away."..... :P

    Biancar, her hubby and my family had a very nice time.

    i will grant you she was only a few blocks away...
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  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    I know, not a car story, but it did have a negotiation hint to it

    How much gg? I'm guessing around $500 saved. Not bad for 2 hours work as a guinea pig. ;)
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,256
    I think gg is saying no bill from his entire hospital stay.... not from the extra tests...

    Heart attack, stents, CCU, recovery.. I'm guessing $5K or more out of pocket, even with comprehensive medical insurance...

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,135
    edited January 2011
    kyfdx....I'm thinking you're right..... something in that $5K, maybe even $7K range is about what my portion of that bill would have been. Figuring 80-20, insurance pays-patient pays, being normal.

    Actually, it would have been Ambulance, Hospital, ICU (my entire stay was in ICU), Stents procedure, meds, Drs consultation, etc. My out-of-pocket would have probably been at least $5K, over and above Blue Cross.
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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Gee, if those numbers are right it would have been cheaper for me to have a heart attack....

    They spend at least that much every month on me. Thank goodness for insurance.
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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,135
    edited January 2011
    fezo...I'm of the mind, if I ain't broke, I don't need fixin'. It has to be pretty serious for me to even go to a Dr. Now, my little heart issue has changed that a little bit. But even at that, I only have to see my cardio guy every 4 months, so that's not too bad.

    My co-pay for him is $30, out of a $175 bill for 5 minutes of conversation, taking blood pressure, and asking me how I feel (great, thank you very much).

    Youngest guy in my ward while I was in ICU (yes, I wandered the ICU trying to see if I was the one in worse, or best shape out of everyone there) was 33. He had a quadruple bypass. He had been there 3 days prior to my getting there. He was weak, but saw me walking around and motioned for me to come in an talk to him (we still email back and forth....he's doing great, too)!

    Anyway, he was concerned about his deductible and how he would pay it. Being a young(er) guy, apparently he didn' have much of a cash cushion.

    His out-of-pocket ended up being $12K. Not certain what his insurance coverage was.

    As I told him, he's young enough that he can pay that off. And, that it's like paying off a car (how do you like that tie-in ;) ).
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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Ouch - that's why I love my insurance. That whole hospital stay. surgery, et al would've cost me $30.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    I get a bonus if they actually admit me into a hospital - no copay. If I go to the ER and they treat and release it's $25.

    Between chemo and procrit the doctor bills a ton but I pay $10 a week to see him. I'm at the doctor (the specialist) every darn week unless he goes out of town.

    Nice guy and a good office but this is nuts. What you gonna do?
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  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855
    GG, you are a silver-tongued devil.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,135
    mako...Like many others, I think the medical field (Drs, insurance companies, drug companies, hospitals, etc) is one huge morass of finger pointing and regulations that add no real value to the patient. Hospitals and Drs state that they're so expensive because of the insurance companies. Insurance companies blame Drs and hospitals for charging too much and being sued all the time. Drug companies blame the FDA for the cost of their drugs.

    Everybody is pointing at someone else, but no one is owning up to the issue.

    I think everyone should be paid on a performance basis. If a Dr can't cure your ailment within a week, his/her fee gets cut in half. If someone dies within a week of entering a hospital, or being discharged from the hospital, the hospital gets nothing. Any drug that doesn't perform as prescribed, to anyone, is free.

    If any Dr, hospital, drug, ends up making the patient worse, instead of better, the offending party owed the patient $100,000. If a lawyer is involved, and the lawyer loses the case, the lawyer owes the patient AND the entity he's suing, $25,000.

    Any insurance company that doesn't pay a patient's bill within 30 days, regardless of the reason, has to pay 2X the bill amount (3X for 3 months late, etc).
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  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    . Figuring 80-20, insurance pays-patient pays, being normal.

    oops. yeah. For some reason I was thinking you were being covered by your auto insurance... with a $500 deductible. :blush:
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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    edited January 2011
    . My out-of-pocket would have probably been at least $5K, over and above Blue Cross.

    Would have cost $0 (Zero dollars) in Canada, with or without Blue Cross! :)

    And without volunteering to be a guinea pig...but it was very nice of you to help the medical field.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Oh, you guys pay for your medical. Just in a different manner!
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    My daughter had to go to the ER in Ontario once. Was remarkably similar to doing so in the states - including that they had someone to take our money and process a Blue Cross claim.

    We put the bill on Visa and had a check for the full amount (not even a deduction of copay!) before we got the card statement - heck, before we got home!

    BTW - in calculating what they spend on me in a month I'm using what they bill. I know Blue Cross does not pay that much. More of the "no, that guy is why this is so expensive" thing.
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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Go on-line with BCBS. I know mine lets me see what the doc billed, what the insurance paid and what they're fighting over.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Oh, you guys pay for your medical. Just in a different manner!

    I agree, but when it comes out of your taxes it doesn't seem as bad as having to write that big check (or as we say in Canada, c h e q u e) all at once. It's the same, only it feels a little better.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Yep, no free lunch but it's good to know it's there in case you need it.

    Kind of like buying an extended warranty on a car. You pay up front and you may never use it but if something happens, you're damm glad you bought it.

    See, we CAN stay on topic!
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,849
    I had a long response typed out to you, but I have thought the better of posting it. I realize that I am very jaded, as both my parents are primary care physicians and I have grown up around the healthcare field.

    There are huge misconceptions by the public at large about physicians, and it angers me. I have classmates who are going into Medical Malpractice, and after hearing some of them speak, I cannot even look them in the eye. The public likes to point the finger at everyone except themselves. Guess what? When we stop trying to make a quick buck because we didn't like an outcome, even if the Doctor did everything right, the system will begin to improve.

    I'll leave things at that. The rest of my opinions on this are not appropriate for this forum nor would anyone agree with me.
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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    WOW !! What great suggestions. gg for President !! I am NOT kidding. We have all those darn politicians and not one of them have even come close to making any suggestions that make that much sense !!

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  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,242
    I've worked in the health care field for a good portion of my life, so I understand where you're coming from.

    Some illnesses & injuries just can't be fixed, no matter what the best physician does. So, I'm pretty much in disagreement that a hospital shouldn't get paid if the patient worsens there, or dies there, or dies after discharge. Come in with a terminal brain tumor, have $50K in tests to diagnose it... not the hospital or physician's fault that it's terminal.

    Also, if we're gonna implement physician and hospital liability for some things that *may* be *slightly* under their control, then I think the flipside should include patient liability for their part in creating extra costs. 5'8", 400 lbs, 35 yrs old, and you have heart problems? You pay double. Not picking on the overweight in particular... just an example that came to mind. Many treatments and procedures are made WAY harder when they involve a patient who ignores all reasonable health-preserving practices. Many procedures (such as surgeries) are billed per-procedure rather than hourly, when in fact it takes a LOT longer to deal with someone who has self-created health issues.

    I think the system will improve dramatically if EVERYONE, including the patient, provides the best health care possible to the patient.

    (I too will stop ranting, but didn't want to leave 28firefighter hangin' out there all on his own.)

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  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,299
    edited January 2011
    The rest of my opinions on this are not appropriate for this forum nor would anyone agree with me.

    We've had long discussion on vacuum cleaners, juicers, watches etc etc. Say what you want. Nobody ever agrees with me either. But, that don't stop me. :P
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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,135
    edited January 2011
    firefighter...kirstie....not meaning to offend anyone, or any group of people. This is a polarizing topic, and has been for some time. No one is willing to draw a line in the sand for fear of offending a particular group or profession. Eventually, someone has to. I think that's going to happen sooner than later...whether it's with universal healthcare, or some sort of offshoot of it.

    Population is getting older, living longer. That will only get worse (actually better) as the average age marches upward while more and more diseases are either curbed (like HIV) or cured (not so long ago, polio). Everyone wants the other group, people, profession, company, to give in, while no one will. It's amazing what can happen if hospitals, insurance companies, lawyers, Drs, Nurses (the true unsung heroes and heroines), and yes, even patients, put aside their "gimme-gimme" attitude, when everyone has skin in the game and understands that not every patient is going to be profitable.

    Kind of like the tax laws. Everybody gripes about them, but no one wants to give up their particular deduction (personally, I like a simple flat tax). Federal, State and municipalities are afraid they might miss out on another nickel. Taxpayers are afraid they might have to pay a nickel more than the next guy (sounds like Isell's customers).

    But, that's another debate for another Sales Front Line tangent. :surprise:
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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Kind of like buying an extended warranty on a car.

    That is exactly what it is like. Our medical plan is called insurance and that is all it really is. Overall, it benefits poorer people the most, probably costs more overall, but at least there is a good chance you won't get a crushing medical bill.

    I say a good chance because there could be some things not covered. The government considers "liberation treatment" for MS to stilll be experimental, and so will not cover the cost. If people go to another country to have it done, and there are complications, doctors here won't give help.

    But, this does seem fair considering the treatment is very experimental.

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  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    I just found this wonderful T-shirt for sale:

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    So there!
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    edited January 2011
    I think the system will improve dramatically if EVERYONE, including the patient, provides the best health care possible to the patient.

    That is a great line because it is so true. Someone can smoke two packs of cigarettes a day and take up lots of resources, while a poor innocent person who needs a hip replacement through no fault of there own waits to get a new hip.

    It was nice of you to step in Kirstie, and the fact of the matter is both firefighter and GG made statements that have truth in them. The system needs to be fixed up. One big problem in your country are legal settlements. We can sue, but it happens a lot less and the amounts aren't as great. Also, not nearly as many contigency cases. It's an eye opener watching all the ambulance chasing lawyers advertise on the Buffalo TV stations....and they all sound like such nice guys.

    Speaking about cars....there's this guy on Buffalo TV:
    "If you have been hurt in a car, call William Mattar"

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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Oh, I hate the 1-800 type lawyers.

    They had a big to do around here a bunch of years ago when they were going to allocate funds based on mortality rates. The theory was they'd be rewarding better care until they found out the folks with the highest mortality rates were..... (wait for it) - hospices! Doh! Back to the drawing board.

    Happened to get a bill from my blood doc today because I missed one copay apparently. Now, I am there every week and pay them close to $500 in copays a year so you might think that the easier and cheaper thing would be to just ask for it next time, but no - they send a bill.

    Anyway, the bill does show one thing - they bill $150 for the visit, accept $47 dollars from Blue Cross and "write off" the rest. I'm sure their accountant has this whole thing set up so that the office has no income. What a system.
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  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855
    But, that's another debate for another Sales Front Line tangent.

    They have tangents here...since when?

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,784
    edited January 2011
    Having a BIL who is a physician, I get a different perspective than most.
    My sister, not my BIL who would never say a bad word, has at times expressed his frustrations to me.
    One thing that seems like it needs to be pointed out is that most people don't have a lot of money and don't have great medical coverage, if they have any at all.
    Medicare and state programs just can't keep up, so someone else (us) ends up making up the difference.
    I just think it's a cost people like (us) need to bear to take care of our society.
    Social Security is pretty much the same thing.
    I don't want some older person to have to live in a cardboard box because they can't afford an apartment.
    The SS deduction rate just dropped. I could use the money to put towards a new car, but I think I am going to put it in my 401k, instead.
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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Of course they want you to use that money for a new car.

    I'm likely to hold onto the money as well.
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,784
    I am (we are) already burning through tons of money on a regular basis with 2 kids in college. There is no doubt I am going to take the opportunity to squirrel away some found money. :)
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,849
    You did not offend me. I have great respect for you, mostly because you think before you speak (and write).

    You are also correct, that this is an extremely polarizing topic and one that I find myself getting into far more than I should with people so ignorant that I wonder how they can function. When I hear classmates and at one time, friends, make comments about all doctors making $400k a year and not actually caring for their patients, it takes all self-restraint I have in me not to fly off the handle. There are some that are in this business strictly for the profit, and those with that attitude ruin the reputation for those that truly care.

    My parents work 7 days a week - my dad is on-call 24/7 as a solo practitioner and hospice provider. The last true vacation they've taken? 6.5 years ago. I hope I can care for my own future clients as much as they care for those they serve.

    Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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