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Your comment about the Raptors is like getting a book and just reading the last page 'The End'.
Your comment about the Raptors is like getting a book and just reading the last page 'The End'.
Well, although most people here hadn't heard of it, the negative publicity it's getting for Ford elsewhere, and the fact that it's based on the current F150, should mean that Ford will have an attitude adjustment and take responsibility.
Pulling the plug on either the truck or the advertising would be admitting a HUGE mistake, and nobody in corporate like to do that.
The last I heard was that Ford were going to be sending representatives along when organized groups of Raptor owners go out on runs, to help educate them on what the truck can and cannot do.
Jeep have been very successful at this with the company sponsored 'Jeep Jamborees' that are open to all Jeep owners and take place offroad over several days in a family atmosphere.
But as they say in the car biz...
" There's a "butt" for every seat"
But then, the Wrangler and Grand Cherokee are actually designed to go off-road...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
No, I wasn't trashing the Raptor, just starting the story about it as a comparison to the prior Mitsubishi warranty position post.
I then continued with what I knew to be the story so far.
Think of it as chapter one and chapter two.
At least I didn't finish the first post with a 'to be continued.......'
And now we all know what the four wheeled variety of a Raptor looks like.
It is what it is, and it's listed for $30,500 with 28K miles.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
And my butt was in the back seat ofa 2008 Accord for 2 hours yesterday. Lots of room, pretty good ride, a few rattles from the back shelf area, ride is pretty firm...pretty good, not as solid as a BMW but that's what I would expect.
Makes a nice car...I like the big screen for the GPS, though it sent us in the opposite direction a few times.....they all seem to do that.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Very nice car, especially if you are a pimp.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Might try Sky High Adventure Park,
On 2nd thought maybe not...I'd get sick on a merry-go-round or a farris wheel :sick:
Sky High Adventure Park
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Neither did I but you’ll damn sure feel it when it reappears.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
How so? It's just a CTS with the only modification being that it was converted into a convertible.
A few months ago I saw a DTS convertible on the road, didn't look half bad.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I'd drive it over to lemko's house first thing!
It's a good idea...just a little too much bling if you know what I mean.
Great concept, just needs to be toned down a few notches.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Richard
Your crystal ball needs an oil change.
Richard
I recommend synthetic if you use your crystal ball a lot in cold weather or for short seances.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Your crystal ball needs an oil change.
Never discourage a person from dreaming. If it makes him happy to think he will get your convertible, it might make him feel good.
If he comes around your house looking for his convertible, you have a problem....call the proper authorities.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Richard
Richard
The guys in black or the guys in white? :confuse:
Richard
Well, last night was my first night with the desferal pump.
They give you this big ol' syringe and a long piece of tubing with a thin but pretty long needle at the end. You hook up the syringe to this pump gizmo so that it empties 1600 ml of this stuff over the course of 12 hours. So you have to stick the long needle in your leg, being careful to not have it come out the other side where it might scratch the leather on your CTS convertible, then tape the needle down and leave that sucker in there overnight.
In case I decide to go out after 6 in the evening or so that pump has this nice little pack you put it in and can run your belt through so you look like the latest in suicide bomber fashion.
This morning that spot where the needle was is a bit sore. I'll get the hang of this. I'd better - I'll be doing this part a couple of years until my iron level gets into the normal range. This all is on top of the whole bone marrow routine....
The one with black decals is a Raptor and has a grille that Ford calls the 'Brickwall'.
I somehow doubt that one will be in your future.
The chrome grille is found on all the other models except the FX, which has the black slatted grille with a body colored surround and body colored bumpers too.
I find it interesting that in years gone by you had to pay extra for chrome and now you have to get a more expensive model to lose it.
Richard
Richard
I have a fair number of things that work on 9 volts and I'll no doubt be the Santa Claus of 9 volts....
Richard
We'd all better start saving out batteries to run our cars:
http://www.autonews.com/article/20110729/VIDEO/307299820/1219
They say the new milage standards will save us $8000 over the life of the car but what good is that if the car costs $10,000 more to buy and has the performance of a go-cart? Not only that but what happens to your savings when you fill up your 56 mpg sub compact with $8.00 a gallon gas?(they don't mention that part of the plan)
I'm looking around for one last performance car to buy just before the change over that I will drive until I die.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I've been trying to think of a use for those batteries.
Most common use is in smoke detectors.
I would check the voltage before and after use, and if ok, maybe you can donate them to a shelter or something like that.
I can see it being a problem getting someone to accept used batteries, as a CYA thing on their part.
87 YUGO GVL
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
That along with no comps or auction values should net a wide price spread.
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
Richard
Sport Trac Adrenalin model?
Whats next, the Sport Trac Steroid model, or Sport Trac Stem Cell Plus model?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Oh, well. I will make sure all the nice batteries find good homes. I'm sure most people with this sort of thing (there aren't that many of us) probably just toss them. I can't do that. not in me.
I really do have to locate my old transistor radio. It would still be good for ball games....
Well with a government mandate it may evedutally come to a choice of buying them or walking.
I would like to see an election where one party states that they are going to keep the mandate and the other showing what the future cars will be with the mandate and saying they will repeal it.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
That's what I worry about, that all new cars will peform like a Yugo. Maybe that's how they figure to save $8,000 on gas, make the cars so expensive and crappy that you won't want to get in them.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
There will also be a bigger incentive for car makers to produce electric vehicles. But how will all those electric cars get their juice if the government also is successful in shutting down all the coal plants. I think we'd be right back to the rising gas price scenario where demand outstrips supply and sinister forces manipulate prices.
Not only that but with the introduction of "smart grid" technology you could go out to start your EV some morning and find the battery dead because some bureaucrat decided you had enough power for the week and shut down your service while your car was re charging.
Bit by bit our freedom of choice is being lost. The day when the powers that be can stop you from jumping into your car and going where you wish may be closer than we think. :sick:
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Darn! Now I will have to find some green granite and a green tile floor.
Richard
"They say the new milage standards will save us $8000 over the life of the car but what good is that if the car costs $10,000 more to buy and has the performance of a go-cart? Not only that but what happens to your savings when you fill up your 56 mpg sub compact with $8.00 a gallon gas?(they don't mention that part of the plan)
I'm looking around for one last performance car to buy just before the change over that I will drive until I die."
First, I'm totally in favor of you getting your dream car. Go for it! What are you considering?
But I think you're overreacting a little in your other post. CAFE is corporate *average* fuel economy. That means that companies can have some cars under the average as long as some cars are over. There will still be sports cars and there will still be big luxury cars in 2020--and 2025 for that matter.
Even luxury cars will probably get a little smaller, and they'll definitely be more efficient, but big vehicles and powerful vehicles will still be around.
The credible estimates guess it will take more like $2000-$3000 per car to meet these requirements when we get to 2025. Car prices will still go up, but not all of that will be CAFE. An Oldsmobile 98 probably cost about $6000 back in 1960, but by 1970 it was probably more like $10,000. There was no CAFE involved it that, it was just inflation and a bigger engine and this that and the other.
just read the latest C&D magazine, and they had a piece about why it is so hard to get many foreign cars, which is largely related to the crash test standards. short answer, US is only country that requires protection based on unbelted occupants, which means a lot more mass in the structure. Change to euro union rules, and the options available would go way up, and cars could be lighter for the same size.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Richard
I know you're being extreme and almost joking here, but you've suckered me into a counter point of view:
The biggest winners by far from CAFE are going to be owners of sports cars and luxury cars.
How? Well, because of CAFE and similar regs in Europe and elsewhere, world wide demand for fuel is going to moderate significantly over the the next 12 years. Without CAFE and similar worldwide, we'd might be looking at gas approaching maybe $10 or more a gallon by 2025. No one (except OPEC and the oil companies) like the idea of a $200 fill up.
But with CAFE and similar world wide, with demand cut significantly, if we're very lucky the price might be "only" $6 a gallon in real terms in 2025. Still expensive, but a lot less for a tank.
And big luxury car and SUV and Van owners can still own their large and powerful vehicles (although they will be a little smaller and a lot more efficient than today's models) but they will get the benefit of cheaper gas brought to them by the people who got hybrids, electrics, diesels, and simply high mpg gas engines starting now.
In other words, owners of large luxury vehicles get to have their cake and eat it too....And that's a good thing. I might enjoy it myself because I tend to like comfortable, powerful, and safe vehicles too...