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the murders were the opening story on NBC nightly news.
"the murders were the opening story on NBC nightly news."
Yes, it's all over the news. Yesterday afternoon that was the lead story everywhere. I was just commenting on the decision by the Sun Sentinel do print zilch on this horrible shooting. They published front page stories in the 2 Ft. Hood shootings, the school stabbings, the Connecticut school killings, and every other mass shootings. They chose not to even put the story on page 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7...! Like I said, it was an editorial decision to not cover this shooting knowing it was a hate crime.
I promise I will drop the subject - enough is enough.
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I nearly feel as if I need to apologize. That stupid fool had been the Grand Wizard of the KKK here in North Carolina years ago. Under his leadership, many unsolved murders were linked to that organization, but never proven. It saddens me to know that I grew up with haters and bigots of that type, and that some of them are still spreading evil around our country. There are times when I wonder if the South has progressed as rapidly as I had hoped. My freshman college roommate was Jewish. I learned a lot about hate that year. He was such a wonderful guy, but he left our college at the end of the year. There were so many ugly comments and threats directed his way. He later died in Vietnam representing America. I still get upset when I think about it.
Richard
"It saddens me to know that I grew up with haters and bigots of that type, and that some of them are still spreading evil around our country."
First of all, you have no reason to think you have to apologize! You are not the guilty conscience of the KKK.
Yes, there is hatred and bigotry in every corner of this country - all you have to do in order to find it is LOOK! It's there, but well hidden. We live in a community that has many Jewish residents living within these gates. Even here we have seen walls defaced with "go back to Israel you Jewish Pigs!" Unbelievable!
The Attorney General, Eric Holder, commented at Al Sharpton's organizational meeting a few days ago about what he and the President have been treated - the race card so to speak. No doubt there are senators and congressmen who are racists and bigots - it's inherent in oir society since before slavery. But it's not just them - it's Jews, innocent Muslims, Catholics, the American Indian, Hispanics from everywhere south of th US, Arabs, the Irish, etc.
Bigotry, anti-Semitic remarks and deeds, racism, hatred and anger - all of which bare their ugly heads so frequently in this country. The KKK is a home-grown organization that believes genocide is the answer for every race, creed, religion - except Anglo-Saxon Christians. They've been around way before our time, but it's still there as evidenced by the shootings in Kansas.
No, Richard, you have no reason to think you need to apologize!
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Mike, I feel the need to address your post of April 12 regarding the conditions in public schools today. While I agree with the majority of your post, there are a couple of exceptions that I noted. First, you made reference to the administrators who work in the Central office at the Board of Education. As one who did for twelve years, I can assure you that I did contribute something to the school system. Employees have to be recruited, interviewed, screened, signed to contracts, and inducted into the benefits program. That includes school principals, teachers, teacher assistants, cafeteria workers, janitors, bus drivers, etc. My days at the office were never less than ten hours and were often twelve to fourteen hours. I spent many after office hours finding housing for the new employees, helping them to set up accounts at local banks, getting the utilities turned on in apartments and condos, etc. I hoped that it helped the children indirectly because I tried to provide good employees. Just as with incompetent and lazy principals and teachers, we certainly had our share of slackers at the central office. Still, there were people in personnel and curriculum who tried to do a good job and who remembered the importance of working with and for children.
Secondly, you mentioned the value of private schools vs. public schools. While I agree to a point, I do know from experience that there are also many private schools who only pay lip service to raising the bar for their students. Many of those schools have drug problems, "white" gangs, and incompetent teachers who couldn't "cut it" in the public schools. My sister and I wasted good money sending my great nephews to such a school for two years. Fortunately, they are now in a British private school that is excellent, though very expensive----$40,000 a year. There is actually some correlation between money spent vs. services provided.
Also, I'm not one to give up on the public schools. There are many good principals and teachers who are trying to make a difference. As you mentioned, parental support is the key to success for public schools, or any schools for that matter. In the late 1960's and the early 1970's, we began to see a more "accommodating" attitude in our schools. A percentage of students were not to fail----orders from the school principal who got his/her orders from the superintendent's office who got his/her orders from the local school boards. Society began to change in terms of "hurting self-esteem", desiring "entitlements", and listening too much to the Dr. Spock following. Academics was told to sit in the back of the bus, while the more deserving "free stylers" were given front row preference. This new found attitude has damaged our students' chances for academic excellence. Slowly but surely we will see a return to those things that are important for our children and important to the parents. If not, civilization as we know it will disappear forever. Thanks to all for reading this.
Richard
"First, you made reference to the administrators who work in the Central office at the Board of Education."
Richard, I probably should have been more specific about which Public School Systems I was referring to. Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles, and other huge systems are the culprits - not the smaller districts where central office is staffed with only necessary personnel - not with school principals and other administrators who are incompetent and were reassigned to the central offices where they collect large salaries and await retirement. Remember, school principals and other incompetents still maintain their tenure.
The smaller school districts are not the same. But it's these large school districts like Miami/Dade, Broward, Palm Beach - who have hundreds of thousands - almost 1 million - students whose needs are not being met - do much money being spent on unnecessary staff.
My apologies for not being more specific.
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I do understand. That tenure element is such a nuisance. It makes it so difficult to get rid of the dead wood. I used to tell teachers that if they did a good job and worked hard, they wouldn't have to worry about having tenure. Then again, you can run into an autocratic administrator who can take a disliking to a teacher and treat them unfairly. In my experiences, there were only two things that made it easy to get rid of an educator----sex and money. Molesting children and stealing school funds will definitely get your [non-permissible content removed] fired----and justly so. Otherwise, it's pretty difficult to do.
Richard
Not to detract from what you said but I understand that all the victims were Christian.
Shows how stupid the purveyors of hate really are.
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Yes - this guy thought he was killing Jews but ended up killing non-Jews. Hope he rots in Hell.
BTW, Sun Sentinel had nothing about the shootings in the paper this morning which only proves the editors did not want to touch the story for some strange reason - or was it strange?
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True, true.
Richard
Gotta disagree about the campaign speeches given at Sharpton's money maker group's conference:
Holder is being challenged by senators not because of racism but because he hasn't done his job as Attorney General, and doesn't care. Investigations in things like Fast & Furious, IRS, Benghazi, thugs blocking entrance to polling places in Philadelphia, usw., should have been pursued but haven't been because of political means. As to Holder's pretense that "What attorney general was treated..." I'd refer him to John Mitchell from the Watergate era. I'd tell him, "You know, Watergate, where the IRS and other government resources were thought about being used against other citizens, and here with Lois Lerner et al on up to DC we have the IRS actually having been used to squash opposition groups to win the election." (Can you tell I just mailed my IRS payment to Cincinnati office yesterday!!!)
As to the other guy's claiming racism, doesn't even deserve note. Someone who went to Columbia and all on some anonymous person's dime, who was in the most prestigious private school in Hawaii, who on and on has had the benefit of the line... well.
My opinion.
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I have been unusually quiet lately (you probably noticed), also busy catching up after being away for 5 months. Some good ideas on education and I wouldn't disagree with any of the comments made.
Just some random thoughts. Maybe it is time schools were handed over to private enterprise. Teachers would be graded by management, popular teachers who's students do well would get paid more. Schools (corporations) could bid more to attract the best teachers....others would be dropped, just like in sports. Schools would have to be made as attractive as possible to increase enrollment. The system would be based on a capitalist system...not a socialist system (pay grid, no firing, etc), so should be more efficient.
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We are still in the stone age of knowing how to educate all children so that they can reach their full potential. The problems are overwhelming to a degree. We do well with bright kids who come to school ready to learn from a great teacher dedicated to their profession.The problem is what is to be done with the rest. Give it another 200 years [a relative eye blink] and see where we stand.
"Give it another 200 years [a relative eye blink] and see where we stand."
Jayrider, in 200 years, there won't be a United States as we know it today. I believe the Federal Government will bankrupt itself in a matter of 15-30 years after which the individual States will form a union of States much like the European Union. Each State would be a country unto themselves with some States merging together to form mega countries.
The Federal Gov't. Will dissolve - when there is not enough money left to pay its bills, obligations and entitlements. Remember, all the money collected for Social Security has already been spent and nothing but IOU's remain - Social Security is paid out of the General Fund because there are no separate funds left in the fund.
Nope, 200 years from now the US will have gone the way of Ancient Greece and Rome.
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Google will come out with a device.....you just attach it to your head and all the information you need will be transferred directly to your brain.
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Jayrider you are so right. One third of American students are the best (perhaps the very best) in the world. The middle third are average, just like most kids around the globe, but the bottom third are the absolute worst.
I may be wrong but I believe afluenza is a major contributing factor. Some believe that any problem can be solved if we throw tons of money at it. So we spend billions of dollars to educate the "poor" and the disadvantaged in the name of no child left behind.
At the other end of the spectrum are the so called trust fund babies who have no motivation to learn because mom and dad provide for their every need. They do not respect teachers and treat them as hired hands.
Well, there you have it--the corrupt influences of money. Afluenza.
Now, if you want to turn the educational system on its head add a little rigor to the curriculum to approximate a 1938 Kansas 8th. grade test. http://www.accelerated-achievement.com/articles/eighth-grade-test/
Driver, I think that is called an iPhone.
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I may be wrong but I think afluenza is responsible in some cases too. Also, I would add, in my opinion, lack of respect for authority, and a general not wanting to do the work.
I saw interviews with some kids who steel and/or sold drugs to make money. They said, why slave away at a McDonalds for minimum wage, I'd rather take my chances doing this and making some big bucks.
There are lots of good kids too, just too often we notice the bad ones....they seem to stand out.
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not condoning going straight to crime of course, but there does need to be some middle ground between college grads with advanced degrees (to get a "decent" job) and minimum wage filler like fast food. Not everyone is able to go to college, and if that eliminates most of them from the self supporting job pool, the country is in a world of hurt.
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One last comment, if there was an easy answer to improve our public/private educational system, there wouldn't be a problem. If you think you have THE answer maybe you also belong to THE religion [lucky you.]
I do think the middle class, which could include people in the mid-wage range, are being squeezed. When I was in sales we had salesmen, managers, district managers all being paid mid range salaries. Those jobs don't exist any more. Many good paying factory jobs are gone. Most of the mid range paying jobs are disappearing. Even the car sales guys know today's young salesmen can only make limited salaries.
Many young people would rather resort to crime than do the hard work of starting a career.....from the bottom..
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I don't know if this has been brought up or not regarding education, but regarding the curriculum taught in schools, I can tell you that half if it is pretty useless, just by seeing how many young folks who come to buy cars treat their finances.
I've ran into numerous people in their early 20's who have unrealistic demands in terms of financing cars they can't afford, dealing with credit issues, and not managing their finances.
It boggles my mind how many people do not understand how interest works, how credit affects their borrowing ability, or how many or unable to balance their finances because they overindulge on big ticket items that they get stuck financing for a better part of a decade (84 and 96 month terms tend to be common nowadays).
Instead of schools teaching algebra, trigonometry, or complex math subjects that are required by many, but used by very few (who tend to go into engineering related studies), I think there should be mandatory courses throughout high school years related to personal finances and credit, maybe even investments, subjects that affect every single person for their entire adult life.
These are subjects that should be mandatory:
-Credit Scores and Credit Ratings
-Personal and Business Taxes (and various tax brackets and how they're taxed)
-Loans and Mortgages and how they work
-Interest and Costs of Borrowing
-Investments, Real Estate, and Stock Market Basics
-Cost Of Living Expenses
-Planning and Saving For Retirement
-Inflation
But then maybe this will never happen as big business prefers the uneducated because they can make more money off them.
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I have thought about that and I agree completely. You surprised me when you said so many people are clueless about financial matters. I looked up this statistic along with an interesting comment;
The biggest area of growth in auto loans is among those with repayment periods of 73 to 84 months, which accounted for nearly 16% of all new car financing in the second quarter. At seven years, these loans last nearly as long as the typical marriage ending in divorce, according to the U.S. Census.
Boom, I agree these subjects should be taught in school, Not much use knowing trigonometry if you don't know how to manage your finances.
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Boomchek,
Very good points . I'd like to add to..
14 rules your kids did not and will not learn in school......
Rule 1: Life is not fair - get used to it!
Rule 2: The world doesn't care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.
Rule 3: You will NOT make $60,000 a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both.
Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss.
Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your Grandparents had a different word for burger flipping: they called it opportunity.
Rule 6: If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them.
Rule 7: Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you thought you were. So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parent's generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.
Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life HAS NOT. In some schools, they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as MANY TIMES as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.
Rule 9: Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you FIND YOURSELF. Do that on your own time.
Rule 10: Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.
Rule 11: Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.
Rule No. 12: Smoking does not make you look cool. It makes you look moronic. Next time you're out cruising, watch an 11-year-old with a butt in his mouth. That's what you look like to anyone over 20. Ditto for "expressing yourself" with purple hair and/or pierced body parts.
Rule No. 13: You are not immortal. (See Rule No. 12.) If you are under the impression that living fast, dying young and leaving a beautiful corpse is romantic, you obviously haven't seen one of your peers at room temperature lately.
Rule No. 14: Enjoy this while you can. Sure parents are a pain, school's a bother, and life is depressing. But someday you'll realize how wonderful it was to be a kid. Maybe you should start now. You're welcome.
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"Very good points . I'd like to add to..
14 rules your kids did not and will not learn in school......"
Good grief, we have a philosopher in our midst. Who would have guessed. I guess they allow anyone on these forums - philosophers included!
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A problem with education is that everyone has a solution. The politicians always elect to fix education as a platform to get elected. The old folks know they shouldn't have to pay anything for public education now since their kids are no longer in schools--but they don't mind using doctors/dentists who went to public schools for their socialized healthcare: just don't expect them to pay now despite that someone else paid when their kids were in school. Businesses all know how to fix schools, especially if it means that schools should teach what they want their employees to have as skills so that the business doesn't have to do training at their expense.
We especially don't need the federal government taking over state's rights to control education within their borders with all the fed's special rules and strings attached. They can't even run the government well let alone run education.
Let the educators decide what should be taught in a state's schools or a local school's buildings.
My retired teacher wife's favorite is telling business how they messed up something and rub in that she listened to businesses criticize Ohio schools for 30 years when the businesses didn't know what they were talking about. Last Thursday a local nursery had a large sale from 2 to 4 pm by invitation only. about 100 people in line many pushing carts full of hanging baskets or moving 6-10 hanging baskets as the line moved. No signs as to where the line should wind through the aisles of the greenhouses. She told them any elementary teacher would have known to put up signs showing where to queue up to organize such a large turnout. Especially since this was the 5th year the nursery has done this sale with large, large turnout each year.
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Let me leave you with 2 of my favorite quotes.
1- -An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't.
My moms favorite line to me was.
2-The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education.
Albert Einstein wrote that.
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How about just teaching the kids how to understand government and how to analyze the politicians running for office, from school board to president. --How to analyze the tactic of their campaigns meant to deceive the voters about themselves or the other opposition candidate? Without some better-educated voters all the financial training won't be any use. We taught those things at home, but people can learn to read and learn about such financial topics.
My wife even took a couple of courses about business topics meant for teachers to include the skills to help youngins understand business in the curriculum she taught in elementary. But the politicans were more interested in test scores from the state tests which were being played into a national curriculum goal which were are close to now with common core.
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Goodness. After reading all of these posts about education, I guess that I don't have anything else to say on the issue.
All of you have great ideas, so here is your homework assignment: 1. Begin attending your local school board meetings and express your opinions.
2. Select one or two days a week and begin volunteering in your local schools.
3. Contact the U.S. Department of Education and tell them that you don't want Common Core Standards in your schools. Tell them that your state and local education agencies are clearly capable of making curriculum decisions.
4. Write letters to the editors of your local newspapers and express the need for local control of your schools.
5. Attend concerts, plays, and athletic events to show support of our children and our schools.
6. Have your churches or religious organizations, your clubs, and your civic organizations to adopt a school or schools. Don't just send a check. Take supplies to the schools, along with some refreshments for the staff. Stay an hour or so and meet the principal and the teachers.
7. Support your local Communities In Schools organization.
8. Let it be known that you don't want "revisionist" history books that distort our heritage in order to appease certain groups and make things politically correct.
9. Let it be known that you want cursive writing restored to the elementary grades.
10. Let it be known that you don't want spelling books discarded in favor of "spell as you wish" trends.
When you have completed this assignment, come back and we'll talk. Following our discussions, I'll assign your next homework project.
Best of luck,
Richard
my daughter's HS has a required personal finance course. Not sure everything covered, but it was stuff like credit, interest, checkbook, etc.
and teaching them to understand governement? No chance of that, considering adults can't figure it out. And the last thing government and politicians want is anyone figuring out what scams they are pulling, because if the average person really did, there might be a revlt.
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And, of course, Will Rogers said, "It ain't what we don't know that hurts us. It's what we do know that isn't so.
Well, either that or someone who has access to the internet.
That said, I agree completely with the treatise.
Heck, when I was in high school years ago they kind of did some of this stuff. Classes were tracked by college prep or not, and others were offered career prep. Today unfortunately that is apparently politically incorrect and a lawsuit in waiting. We seem so focused on everyone feeling good that we seem to overlook the ramifications that has of holding our brightest kids back.
To complete the assignment currently you might need a back round check , a stroll through a metal detector and have a long discussion with the school security officer. Any suggestions on changing school curriculum and academic goals would have to be approved at the state level based on federal guidelines. I must politely decline the assignment.
I have a lot of confidence in our current crop of young people, especially those in the top 20%. They are bright enough to take control of their own education. Some of them are truly outstanding. These young folks are the future of our country, and from what I see, they will do a better job than their predecessor's have done.
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Well there was a salesman on the lot who quickly came over to asked if I was interested and I just said "no I saw it here and just wanted to look at it". He said it was priced to sell and I asked him what was wrong with it. I then asked him what was wrong with it and he replied by asking me why I thought there was something wrong with it. My response was because it was an MG.
Fast forward to now and the once filled lot of the used car lot only has one car sitting lonely in it positioned right next to the road. It's that 1960's MG coupe that still has that same "priced to sell" amount plastered across the windshield.
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Idle thoughts:
Cost me just over $200 to get the broken door handle on my Lincoln fixed. This included a botched paint job. Body man wanted an extra $80 to exact match so I told them to get as close as possible. They saw the paint code as "ivory" and painted it white. Went to the auto parts store yesterday and bought a $7 can of Duplo color that was the closest match (some tan color for GM cars) and did it over. Pretty close match. Ought to get a refund from the body shop dope.
It snowed 4" here last night. Ready to hang myself.
Put the rope away and started thinking about new toys. Thought something like this might serve my desire to have a convertible and feed my fetish for low miles.
http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/4425263316.html
But that price! No way on just a V6.
Edmunds values it at $2700, KBB says $6600. Wow, what a range.
Any value judgements from you experts?
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It's 17 years old...it's a V6....it's an automatic...those are the negatives.
Positives...low miles...looks decent....it's a 'vert.
I'm sure the owner has already tried to see what a store would give him for it. That's where that $2,600 number probably came from via our friends here at Edmunds. I'd hit it at $4K. How badly do you want a slow Camaro, that isn't really a collector vintage, with the wrong motor? If you like it a lot, maybe have him work you hard to $5K, and that's "all the money".
You're right of course. I would like to see that 20% expanded closer to 50%. You made a good point. I used to say that a good student, along with parental support, could learn and do well in spite of an incompetent educator. I ran into two of my former students yesterday at a meeting....one an attorney and the other a small business owner. They were telling me how involved they are in their children's education. It warmed my heart to see these two guys taking an active role.
Richard
That sweet little MG is just waiting for you to take it home.
I had one of those '60s cars. It stayed in the shop more than it stayed in my garage. There was a major exhaust problem which the mechanics could never fix. We smelled fumes in the cabin every time that we drove it. I was so glad to finally sell it, which I did on my own. I thought that I would never get my money from the buyer. That's another story in and of itself.
Richard
Not an expert, but I say a one time offer of $5K tops.
Richard
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It's been just a few years...;) ... since I attended High School. But, I must admit, however uncool it was then or now, two of the most useful electives I took were:
Typing: I learned how to type! A money-saver in college, didn't have to pay to have my papers typed. Which also allows me to enter the occasional witty missive, in an efficient manner, here on the interweb thing.
Home Economics: I learned how to use/balance a checking account and the wonderful world of credit cards. I think it was Home Ec, I remember being surprised at the curriculum, it was more than how to cook and clean. Which I may have learned, but never really applied!
My daughter's University sent out an email, noting a personal finance seminar being offered on 4/15 (in honor of tax day). I strongly advised her to attend, beyond her study of BioChem Engineering, she must learn about this topic! I mean, in about 3.5 years she will graduate and have to begin supporting me.
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You know something, laurasdada, you might be right on the money with those two. But I learned to balance a checkbook in one of my math classes where we filled out checks and had to balance the account with the statements from our teacher. As for typing, I learned in 6th grade as I was enrolled in an SP class (special progress in NYC) where I skipped 8th grade - took 7th and 9th grades in two years. In order to qualify for the program, you were required to take typing the sixth grade.
I still can type over 60 words per minute without looking a the keyboard. It has served me well through my Master's Thesis and my Doctoral Dissertation. I did all the typing myself, including the footnotes on the bottom of each page. Yes, I would think typing and learning how to write checks and balance the accounts at the end of each month were critical to my later years in high school and college.
If you read my posts and find quite a few typos, you know I was writing the post on my Iphone. If you read the posts and find no typos, then you know I was at my computer responding to the posts.
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You listed the negatives V6, auto etc. but I actually view them as sort of...positives.
First, I'd worry that a V8 Camaro would have been some kid's hot rod or maybe tracked and thus beat. Same with auto vs. 5sp. This "secretaries" model had the 3.8L which except for the intake manifold issue was one of GM's best motors. Probably gets 30mpg. 200hp isn't too bad either. Not being a collector's car is also a positive since that reduces the competition. Also, screaming burnout aren't why I would buy a convertible. That's what the Mustang GT would be for. Yeah, I'm back to the hardtop on that.
That $4k figure is about what I thought I'd be willing to pay for any super low milage car. I could get a nice rust free 95 Lebaron vert in Florida for under $3k so I'd have to really love the Chevy to go $5k.
This car thing really is a sickness isn't it?
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Oldfarmer, they just showed the new limited edition Mustang GT at the N.Y. auto show. It comes in only 2 colors, blue or white...and auto or manual. Simply stunning.
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2014 or 2015?
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As I mentioned I wouldn't necessarily want a screamer in a vert. My fantasies center around cruising down the strip, my few hairs blowing in the wind, young girls laughing at the old coot trying to look young.
$3k would be sweet but I'd worry that if the seller was willing to come down that much there was something wrong with it.
Interestingly, a few years ago I was at the Chrysler dealer picking up my wife's car and they had a 97 Camaro SS convertible for sale with about 90k miles. Price: $12,995.
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@oldfarmer,
A V8 sounds much better, especially at lower cruising speeds. It sounds good when you start it and when you are driving it.
I don't know how bad the prices of regular and premium are in the Midwest, Northeast, Northwest or the rest of the Southeast, but down here in Southeast Florida, they are the highest I ever remember paying.
Regular is averaging $3.79.9 and Premium is averaging $4.19.9 a gallon. Even Costco's premium is at. $4.00 a gallon. I have heard all the excuses like refineries tooling up for summer gasoline to increased demand to spot shortages of ethanol.
Whatever the reason(s), including oil companies gauging us again, the future looks bleak. Prices are expected to continue to rise for the nest 3 months, perhaps with regular exceeding $4.00 a gallon.
I just wish the government would spend more time getting to the bottom of this and less time worrying about cattle grazing in Nevada.
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