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Nope, Seattle by way of So. California.
I thought it was quieter after the synthetic but this engine is as smooth as silk so it was probably my imagination.
"...Next time try Wal-Mart..."
Next time I'll do it myself or take it to my independent shop. Either way it would be cheaper. I was just trying to give the dealer a chance. I'm dumb that way.
Come to think of it, if I brought a new car into my regular guy he'd probably be so shocked that he would forget to charge me. Usually when he changes my oil he has to duck out of the way of two or three other fluids dripping from my junkers.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Sorry. Not me. I can't stand to walk into one of their tacky stores.
Funny thing as an ex-Sears employee/manager I would've thought it would be a no brainer to have it done there. I mean I used to buy my Die Hards there until Costco started selling batteries. The service writers do seem knowledgeable and with their cross referencing software do pretty good cross matching parts. Their warranty on shoddy work is excellent so even if you do have a come back it's done without question.
And, chocolate is the nectar of the gods...
You friend, are messed up. :shades:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
You think you got me huh? The disposal will be at a time of my choosing. :P
FWIW I use Zaino because I'm lazy and not a fanatic. It gives the best shine for the lease amount of effort.
I sure did create the opportunity for you guys to come out of the woodwork but it’s slow here on weekends; glad to see there is a pulse out there.
One thing about the lab reports. It's designed to be read by an engineer.
OK, I can handle that and I have a slide rule to prove it.
After I told him about the $20 fee he said he would check if they could do it for him for free at his workplace.
It’s guys like him that gives society the impression that engineers are cheap. I hate when that happens. :mad: I will say that the price today is quite reasonable. When I did it twice in the late 70’s, IIRC, the price was $9.95.
I have a little tale about that:
The first time I did it, when Mrs. jmonroe was balancing the check book she came across the legend in the book where I had written “oil analysis” (or something like that) so she questions me about what it was, so I told her in a somewhat technical way so she could understand why I did it. She walked away saying something like, “I always thought they threw that dirty oil away. I have a husband that has its chemical properties microscopically analyzed. I wonder if they can tell me how many more batches of French Fries my oil is good for"?
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
They are a TOTALLY different company than the spit and polish company I was so proud to work for.
On a recent trip to So. Calif, I walked through my old store and I was almost ashamed that I had worked there. The once gleaming floors were dirty, half the lights were burned out and the staff seemed tired and disinterested.
I asked one employee a question and they barely spoke english.
I slowly shook my head and walked out.
Actually it's a waste of oil.
:shades:
Off to DC with la familia manana por la manana, por una semana. Takin' the TL, trunk is stuffed... The Evil Wife's fancy Camry Wagon would probably hold the luggage better, but it's a gas guzzler-ish. And a warning light has lit on the dashboard, to be reviewed upon our return. First real road trip for the multi-Zaino coated TL (last Z-2 six months ago and the thing still SHINES!), looking forward to some highway mpg.
Have a lovely week, all. I hope each and every one of you good salesfolk here sell every car ever made next week! And don't scrimp on the Mop & Glo, they'll make more!
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Prior to that day we had purchased many items from Sear, in fact 5 years ago we replaced a Kenmore washer and dryer that lasted 28 years.
Wal Mart – I have never been in one and will never go in one. They upset me. Enough said.
Hey! I didn't know you spoke French!
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Don't act like you are totally innocent here. Isn't this the same dealership you allowed to get another $178 from you (I'm pretty sure this is the amount you said)? Heck, for giving that away, you should have known (if you were paying attention here to the grinders) to demand the first oil change free. With the oil type of your choice. So you knew right there and then there were no bargains to be had at that place. Were the phone lines down and your cell phone batteries in need of a charge that you couldn't have called to get the price of a Mobil 1 oil change before you dropped it off? :confuse:
I'm dumb that way.
And they knew it. :shades:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I agree about Martha Stewart. Convicted felon attempting to sell me stuff does not appeal to me.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
"On November 17, 2004, Kmart announced its intention to purchase Sears, Roebuck and Company. As a part of the merger, the Kmart Holdings Corporation would change its name to Sears Holdings Corporation. The new corporation announced that it would continue to operate stores under both the Sears and Kmart brands."
Wiki
I don't patronize Sears after the tire center jammed a lugnut and refused to replace it. I had to drive home with it loosened because I wouldn't play their game and pay them for the nut they had screwed on cross-threaded when they rebalanced tires before. They brought another lug nut when replacing struts long before and didn't clip on the air llines onto the struts properly.
The only reason I had used them for tire rebalance after the strut problems was they had bought NTB in this area and eventually closed the stores and I had lifetime balance and rotation from NTB on my Michelins.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Sounds like my doctor's office.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
LOL.
As for the $178, I blame that on the brainwashing I got here. I'm still waiting for all the sales guys to chip in and send me a rebate check.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Competition started coming from all directions as the big box stores opened up everywhere.
To keep this car related, as a very young guy, I managed the highest volume auto center on the west coast. We did almost everything.
We installed rebuilt engines and transmissions, air conditioners, we actually fixed things! Clutches etc. I had five full time guys who only did brakes. On a busy Saturday, we could do 20 brake jobs and install 80 batteries.
I had three muffler guys had they were always busy. I even had (the last) upholestry shop. My guy installed convertable tops and seat covers.
I had a six bay alignment shop and we installed more shocks and rebuilt more front ends than anyone would believe.
But then the market (and the cars) changed. Today's cars no longer go through exhaust systems. They don't need "tune ups" anymore and the shocks (struts) rarely go bad. When did anybody last replace a pair of worn out ball joints?
Mechanics have become "technicians" and finding the cause of a problem is more complex than actually fixing it!
Cars no longer have worn out engines at 80,000 miles. Driviing a car 150,000 miles with out a rebuild was impossible. Today, 150K is nothing for a halfway well maintained car.
Today's Sears Auto Center is a shadow of it's former self. They sell and install tires, batteries and I guess they do a few brake jobs and alignments.
It's a tough retail world out there especially since the internet is causing the demise of a lot of traditional brick and mortar businesses.
Need a set of wrenches? Buy a slightly used set on Ebay!
Back in the 60's my parents were trading in a 50 something Ford that showed a little over 50K on the odometer (back when odometers only went to 100K). I remember the salesman asking if it had 150K miles (as the car was around 10 years old) and my parents saying it didn't have 150K miles on it.
After the deal was done the salesman made on last attempt to confirm that the car had 150K miles on it. My parents responded no it did not have 150K miles on it, it had 250K miles on it.
As far as I know it was the original drivetrain.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Highly unlikely.
Just last week I was talking to a long retired guy who used to work for the same company I did.
For many years, he owned a large shop in Oakland CA that specialized in engine rebuilds. He had his own machine shop too.
We talked about the "old days" when cars needed valve jobs at 50,000 miles or sooner. They usually needed a ring job around 75-80,000 miles and a total rebuild including a rebore before 100,000 miles. There were always exceptions but this was pretty much the rule.
Back in those days, people didn't drive as much or have the commutes they do today.
250,000 miles with an overhaul seems pretty unlikely.
Although I only used Sears for mufflers, shocks and batteries I agree with everything you said. The one that I used for that stuff seemed to always be doing some kind of major repair work when I was there.
Now that your rant is over, how about sending 'oldfarmer' your share of the $178 he's expecting.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Not really...just feeling my age and remembering a different time that doesn't seem so long ago.
oldfarmer can wait by his mailbox...and wait...and wait....
Our family car was a 1938 Chevy coupe until 1962 when dad bought a brand new chevy Biscayne. I was a great car (for a few months).
He bought it in I believe August and in October 1962 we had the Columbus Day storm in OR and WA. Im sure Isell has heard of that day. Next to our driveway was a huge maple tree and when it came down on the center of the car it put the frame on the ground.
A month later we has a 1963 Impala.
There sure are a lot of us in that age bracket around here. I don't know if I should laugh or cry about that.
Our family car was a 1938 Chevy coupe until 1962 when dad bought a brand new chevy Biscayne.
The second car I owned was a 62' Biscayne 6 cyl. that I bought in 63' with 1900 miles on it, from an uncle that was told he could no longer drive. I kept that car until I bought my first new car. A 66' Bonneville 2 dr. hardtop (remember when they were called that); now that was a boat on wheels.
A month later we has a 1963 Impala.
Some people will do anything to move up a model or two. :shades:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Once they emerged from that they suddenly bought Sears.
And these folks are my alternative to dealing with the beast himself at Wal Mart?
On the 18th no less.
We were living in California then but my cousins who lived here remember that storm quite well and have told tales.
On the 18th no less.
Ah that explains your mood for a while now. It’s the ole anxiety of thinking about it. Well, it ain’t so bad. And you have more milestones to look forward to after that. I won’t put you over the edge with all of what’s to come but just knowing you’re eligible for Social Security will require a quart of Jack Daniels. this
For the others here who like to stay on topic, I couldn’t think of a way to tie this into cars. Besides, ‘isell’, likes it served straight up. Oh, wait, maybe I can tie this to cars; salesmen don’t like to waste time, they want to get to the bottom line just like us buyers.
And I almost forgot; don’t worry about having enough wind to blow out all those candles. Wives understand this and use only two BIG candles, 6 and 0. :shades:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
My first car was a 1969 Plymouth that went 158K with no rebuild before I sold it. It did throw a timing chain at 138K and I had to replace a few bent valves but that's the only rebuild work. I changed the oil every 3K.
That car put up with some really intense young-fool abuse.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I stopped by my local Ford dealer today and they only have 3 Tauruses or is that Tauri . Well they only had 3. None equipped the way I want, too much bling and not enough practical stuff.
The only Taurus equipped the way I would like it is on the other side of the state, 300 plus miles away.
So, does one deal with that dealer or have the local Ford dealership try and get the car? If they trade do I have to pay for the transport? To save the transport I’ll catch a flight to Spokane and drive it home.
Maybe Joel has a better supply of Taurus in TN.
Road trip. :shades:
It was probably a 318 and they wre pretty rugged.
Still, I'll bet it was overdue for an overhaul even though it may have ran OK.
Oh, yeah, they renamed the 500. Probably a smart thing to do.
Not all stores do dealer trades but they may. If so, they will send a driver to go get it. Probably a local "on call" retired guy like we use.
How about a nice Accord instead?
Can't hardly believe it either.
I just found my retirement job. Where do I sign.
Oh darn, I still have to drive tugboats for 3 more years. pooo
Accord has been looked at, but.. the wife .. she...
Yep, started working summers in high school and then after I graduated.
I got so good that when I went in the Navy in 1968 they put me on an “Aircraft Carrier”
Typical U.S. Gov.
He then used that company to also buy Sears (ostensibly, for the real estate)..
For some reason, he seems to think that he knows something about retail, as well... :surprise:
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It was overdue for the junkyard. I sold it in 1980 for $100. Yes it was a 318. Chrysler even built good transmissions in those days. We use to rev it up in neutral and then slam it into gear to see how much rubber we could get.
Ahh, the good old days when gas was 35 cents and the cops were lazy.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Better watch out, those transport jobs aren't as easy as you think. Years back I went down to the end of our long driveway to get the morning paper. As I looked to my left I saw about a dozen trees in front of my property had been mowed down flat. Later in the day a guy from the local Mazda dealer came by and explained that one of their transport guys got lost and was trying to make up time when he rounded our turn at 70mph. He rolled a new car over several times in my trees.
Another time I came upon an accident on I-87 and was flagged down by a frantic woman. She explained that she was part of a caravan of used cars going to the auction when "Joey just drove off the road ". My friend had a cell phone and we called for help.
I never found out what happened to those transport drivers. They may be in chains somewhere, working off their debt applying mop & glo for the rest of their lives.
P.S. Sorry about your dad Isell, that's tough when you're 11.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
As far as I know not much was done, my uncle owned a gas station at the time and did any maintence we needed but I am pretty sure if it needed a major overhaul it would have been put to pasture.
Back in those days, people didn't drive as much or have the commutes they do today.
Back in those days my dad had a 38 mile one way commute (about 30 on expressways) I think he did about 20K a year in commuting.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Live from Washington, DC! We made it!
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Come now. It isn't nice not to share with isellhondas. Do you mean that you're not going to tell him that he will begin to urinate more slowly, live with the wife each day, experience strange little pains that suddenly come from the body, falling asleep in meetings, being asked if you want your 10% senior discount, having to turn up the volume on the car radio, and only sleeping four hours most nights which include at least two bathroom visits? Ah, the joys of the Golden Years.
I keep trying to figure out the term Golden Years. The only thing that I can come up with is that the urine is more golden. :sick:
To stay on topic: At least we out live most of our cars.
Richard
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Wow, I think's that extreme, and I live in a neighborhood where most people, after parking their car in front of their house, just throw their keys on the dashboard (unless they were too lazy and just left them in the ignition)... but still we would never just walk into a neighbor's house
You will probably be going there for service, anyway. What would you place the monetary value at for this trip? If it is your family time, at least $50 per hour sounds right. Unless you are able to work the deal so you can drive, sign, and leave, you might be better off paying a little bit extra for the delivery. Just be sure you have agreed on all the options and the price before anyone does anything!
In the case of the Ranger, I adopted.
The wife is trying to get me to wait until June or later to buy and since she runs the financial part of things I have to go with it.
Next week we are driving to Montana for a few days and Im sure we will put 1500 miles on the old grey mare.
The 93 Explorer still runs good even with 200K plus miles on it, but it is getting some oil leaks and a lifter is making a lot of noise. Uses about 1.5 quarts of oil between changes which get done at 3K to 4K miles.
I hope I don’t jinx myself by mentioning this but I don’t have any of that stuff. Damn, damn, lucky is the only way to explain it. The only thing you mention that I do have a problem with, and always have, is staying awake during meetings. I couldn’t even do that when I was in my thirties.
Just a few weeks ago I started to doze and one of the very young guys here said to one of the old timers, “what’s wrong, are we boring him”? the response was “not anymore than usual,” then the kicker when this guy said, “he’s dozed off in more meetings than you have college credits. He’s just tired of hearing the same old BS, give it time you’ll catch on.”
To stay on topic: At least we out live most of our cars.
Now that’s a tradition I won’t get tired of.
Oh and when I’m asked about wanting the 10% senior discount I always say, “sure and when do I qualify for 20%”. Now, the next person that poses that question to Mrs. jmonroe is going to go to sleep on the job and not of their choosing. :mad:
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Speaking of aging units we have a Titan here on the lot that will have a Birthday here next week also. The management is giving a special present of $500 to anyone that sells this Titan
GP
I just had to support my team here! For the record I will not be asking any challenges for this game
But to stay on topic in the beginning of the Bruins season if we gave anyone free tickets to a game for anyone that bought a car no one would use them. At the beginning of the season they were selling buy 3 game tickets for $50. Now tickes have a ADM on them up to $200 :surprise:
GP
" GO Bruins"
The 93 Explorer still runs good even with 200K plus miles on it, but it is getting some oil leaks and a lifter is making a lot of noise.
Be careful. With those miles and a “lot of noise” from a lifter is not the time to be taking a trip. That noise is a warning sound and it could put the “old gray mare” down for the count at sustained high speed interstate driving.
Sorry, I just had to say it. Maybe this is the time to speed up your car shopping. Go see 'isell' . He'll take care of you, he's getting old and doesn't have time to waste bickering over the sale of a car.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl