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Rocky
NEWAYS Thanx Edmunds:
Wide-body Cadillac CTS-V could debut for 2007
By Ed Hellwig Email
Date posted: 02-16-2006
The current Cadillac CTS-V isn't the BMW M5 killer General Motors hoped it would be. With the introduction of the more powerful 2006 M5, the CTS-V is 100 hp off the mark. Add in its lame interior and its vague steering and the Caddy's $50,000 price doesn't look like such a bargain.
We know a full-blown redesign of the CTS is already a done deal, but our latest spy photos show a prototype that hints at the possibility of a midcycle upgrade for the CTS-V. Caught testing at GM's Milford proving grounds, this prototype wears extended bodywork from nose to tail similar to Cadillac's CTS-V racecars. We've seen CTS prototypes like this before circling the Nürburgring, but they rarely had the level of fit and finish visible on this test car. This prototype also has a standard set of rear exhaust pipes. On the racecar the pipes poke through the bodywork ahead of the rear wheels.
And it's not just the bodywork that looks suitable for production. Check out the wheels and tires. Instead of ultralightweight O-Z racing wheels and low-profile slicks, this prototype is riding on wheels with the same design as the current CTS-V. They're not exactly the same, however, as you can clearly see that these wheels have lots of offset to accommodate wider tires. The change isn't just functional, it emphasizes the car's rear-wheel-drive setup. It's a styling trick BMW has used for decades now; it's about time Cadillac caught up.
If this car does turn out to be an actual production model, there will be more than just wider bodywork and a new set of wheels and tires to talk about. We would expect nothing less than a serious suspension upgrade along with the installation of the 505-horsepower, 7.0-liter LS7 V8 from the latest Z06 Corvette. This would put the CTS-V right back into the same league as the 500-hp 2006 BMW M5 in terms of power and at least a little closer when it comes to handling and steering feel. Throw in an upgraded interior and the CTS-V would start looking like a bargain again.
here's the link for this article: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=109332
Rocky
GM is really promoting E85
I personally believe in this fuel source, and GM obviously does too. They are taking the leadership roll.
Rocky
Rocky
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=109347
Rocky
Rocky
I am personally tired of waiting. I think waiting 10 years for the promised product is way too long and would make anyone pissed off. I am sure you all remember 1996 when 5 or 6 very stylish GM sedans were about to be lunched. I am talking about the Buick Century, Regal and Park Avenue, Potiac Grand Prix, Olds Intrigue and Chevy Malibu. It was a huge offensive that everyone thought GM was back. Everyone for the last 10 years and we hear the same promises. What has changed?
We never know how strong we are until we actually have a fight. Of course, we avoid a fight until we are backed into a corner.
Right now, Delphi, GM, and the UAW are all being backed into a corner and that may lead to a real fight - Delphi cancelling labor contracts, the UAW going on strike, and GM going bankrupt.
Wars are very sad, but sometimes they are the only way to really get things straightened out.
At the moment, the only cars of the big three which are in the under $30K class which come to mind as fun, exciting, cool, and possibly a fair buy are the Chrysler 300 Touring, the Mustang, and possibly the CTS ( note: should come with 3.6V6 and telescopic steering ). Maybe a G6 GTP would be something to look at, if FWD is your thing. The coupe looks pretty good. Kinda of a better looking Solara, and closer in looks to the Honda Coupe, which is great looking. Maybe a two year old GTP for around half price would be cool. Just wait for the big news from GM to come. You know, the big news will come - won't it?
Loren
Loren
Small car
Chevy II vs Cobalt
Both were only available as Chevy.
The Chevy II had 3 body styles, 4 trim levels, 6 engine options, 4 transmission choices.
The Cobalt had 2 body styles, 4 trim levels, 3 engines, 2 transmissions. (3 bodies if you count the HHR)
mid-size
Chevelle vs Malibu
Chevelle/Malibu was twin to Tempest/Lemans, F-85/Cutluss and Special/Cutlass (8 nameplates), the current Malibu shares its format with the G6, 9-5(or is it 9-3), an Opel and Vauxhall we wont count, and the soon to arrive Aura.
Chevelle had 7 body styles, 3 trim levels, 7 engines, 4 transmissions
Malibu had 2 body styles, 4trim levels, 3 engines, 1 transmission
Large
Chevrolet vs Impala
Chevrolet used 3 nameplates on the full-size care in ’65; Biscayne, Bel Air, and Impala (The Caprice was a package, and didn’t become a separate model until ‘66). They shared platforms with other full-size GM cars, but not wheelbase or engines. (too many nameplates to list). Chevrolet had 7 body styles, 5 trim levels, 7 engines, 2 transmissions.
Impala had 1 body, 3 trim levels, 2 engines, 1 transmission (up to 4 trim levels and 3 engines for 06)
Pickup
C-series vs ?
In 1965 the Chevrolet C-series light truck had 4 different beds, and 2 different wagon bodies under the same nameplate. It covered the whole Silverado/Tahoe/Suburban spectrum.
Other Chevys then were the Corvair and Corvette.
Maybe I should just say that nameplates then and now are an apples and oranges issue.
Instead of developing all those V6 engines, I think Powertrain should have developed a small block V8 in the 3 to 4 liter size range. With a cylinder size of 80 mm in both bore and stroke, a 3.2 liter engine is possible. With just under 90 mm bore, the upper size would be about 4 liters.
I will agree that BMW's inline six is a more refined (smoother running) engine than any of the competitions V6's. However, BMW seems limited to 3 liters for displacement.
Rocky
Seriously are we that dumb ?????? :sick:
Rocky
First:
http://info.detnews.com/autosconsumer/autoreviews/index.cfm?id=22157
The Lienerts talk about how the 2006 Accord Hybrid has actually gone down in epa mileage to 25/34. Was 29/37. The Leinerts got 21 average and there were so many complaints to Honda they somehow were able to get the EPA numbers lowered. Not sure how they did that since the method is pretty well prescribed.
Basically:We're both in favor of hybrids, on paper. But as companies and consumers get a reality check on just how much -- or how little -- they help conserve fuel and the costly price you pay as you struggle toward that goal, it's often getting harder and harder to argue in their favor. A loaded one is $33,000.
Now Edmunds just did a review on the new Vue Hybrid with their much less expensive Hybrid system.
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=109253/pageNumber=1
GM estimates 27 mpg city and 32 mpg highway, with a combined figure of 29 mpg. The market will determine whether GM has a hit when the Green Line goes on sale later this year. It's priced thousands below the Toyota Highlander Hybrid and the popular Ford Escape Hybrid, while coming close to matching the fuel economy of their more complex single-mode hybrid systems. All this for $23,000.
Now we will have to wait and see what the actual mileage will be with normal people driving but I have to believe it will be better than the 21 the Leinerts got on the Accord. Big difference is Accords 253 hp vs the Vues low 170. But then again if you are worried about gas mileage why would you ever need 253 hp?
Rocky
It gets 27-29mpg highway.
5mpg is all we get for the same HP and 18 years of "innovation"?
GM deserves to die if all it can do is this little.
It gets 27-29mpg highway.
5mpg is all we get for the same HP and 18 years of "innovation"?
GM deserves to die if all it can do is this little.
I am befuddled by your message? Why does GM deserve to die? 29 mpg for that Park is wonderful. The Accord, a much smaller car, with the latest hi tech expensive hybrid system, barely does better than that today at 35 epa. In actuality it is probably only 30 for normal driving.
Rocky
Rocky
GM is heading down the right track, did anyone else notice the Buick Velite Styling cues, or is it just me ?????
Buick does= Beyond Precision :shades:
Rocky
And nothing changes. Absolutely nothing on the inside. The outside - yeah they put a new coating, like those pastel colored "Easter" M&Ms, but the inside is exactly the same.
GM can't innovate its way out of a paper bag, truth to be told. All they can manage is small incremental changes.
The new Buick? Well, good for them - they make a car Lexus made 7-8 years ago. Go test drive an IS-350 and then well, most anything GM makes. People think GM is making better cars, but most of it is that they were making some of the worst cars on the planet before and they merely are becoming adequate or slightly better than average.
Chrysler had the same problem in the early 80s - they were so bad that any improvement was seen as amazing.
Yet Toyota and BMW and all of the others - they never stopped trying to be #1. So while GM plays catch-up and designs by committee, the others are miles ahead. ME? I work hard for my money and want the best. GM is never the best value for the money unless you are talking about something used as a commuter-beater, because they depreciate like rocks.
The CTS is a close competitor to the Chrysler 300, where it also tends to lose. Sure it is a little lighter, and maybe more nimble, but you get less engine and other items for a heavier price tag. Oh well, it may be a good used car buy. Or if they have a $4K to $6K off sale some day.
Loren
Dude the IS-350 rides like my 96' Dodge 3/4 ton flat bed.
Seriously it's a nice sport-lux car with alot of gadgets, but it's cramped for anyone of american girth, it's pretty fast, but as a true family sports sedan it's not. It's just to small, and it rides like crap if you want the sports suspension. I guess they better learn from BMW how to make a perfect balance between ride and comfort.
BTW it's also way over priced and @ $47K I'll buy a CTS-V and smoke a IS 350 and get the option to row my gears :P
BTW the 07' CTS-V is going to be "all smoke" and no mirrors, and will be what real drivers want to own with 500 plus horsepower on tap. :shades:
Rocky
P.S. The Buick Enclave is way better than the Lexus RX, and comparing the "2" is a insult to the magic that Buick just created. I guess if you hate GM as much as some do they will do nothing right in ya'lls eyes. It's like you will gripe about this flaw and that flaw and when they perfect it with real precision they still take a beating. This pretty much somes up the problem GM is having today about changing perception. I guess if you walk into a GM dealership and test drive the Enclave, your perception might change ????? Or is it now that some are "Too Good" to be seen in anything but a foreign car. :confuse:
Perhaps thats the true "root cause" that will be the major obstacle for GM and the other Big 2 or 1.5
Loren, I was saying yes it's free of charge, but I guarantee you that they factored in the free maintence in the MSRP. Eitherway your paying for it.
Perhaps GM needs to add an additional $500-1000 to the MSRP and give free maintence ????? Hell it seems like a good selling point since so many are loving that free maintence. It's not really a bad idea because atleast the next buyer would have a well maintained car and thus raising "residuals/resale" :surprise:
Rocky
Loren
Work Progressing in Consensual Talks; 3-Way Discussions to Continue
Release Date: February 17, 2006
TROY, Mich. -- Delphi Corp. (OTC: DPHIQ) announced today that based upon progress in discussions with its major unions and General Motors Corp., Delphi will continue talks in an effort to achieve a comprehensive agreement no later than March 30, 2006. Absent agreement with all parties, Delphi will file no later than March 31, 2006 its motion under Sections 1113 and 1114 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code to initiate the process of seeking court authorization to reject the collective bargaining agreements and terminate hourly post-retirement health care plans and life insurance.
"While major obstacles and difficult issues remain to be resolved, the discussions to date with GM and our major unions helped frame the concerns and objectives of each organization," said Delphi Chairman and CEO Robert S. "Steve" Miller.
"As we have said before, we remain committed to reaching a consensual agreement. This deadline should provide us sufficient time to deal with the complexities inherent in fashioning practical and workable solutions, and an effective agreement that works for all of us," Miller said.
Previously, Delphi had announced it would file the motion no sooner than Feb. 17, 2006.
Delphi's Chapter 11 case for reorganization of its U.S. operations is being heard in the Southern District of the U.S. Bankruptcy Court.
For more information about Delphi (OTC: DPHIQ), visit www.delphi.com.
http://www.delphi.com/
Rocky
The base CTS, upgraded to the others standards, should sell for $28K. Now that would be an American Revolution.
Drop the Malibu in its current form, and never bring it back unless it looks as good as the 1968 one. Bring back the Camaro priced like a Mustang. In the spirit of the old NASCAR, bring back a RWD Monte or Malibu. No, not with a carburetor
Loren
Rocky
Camaro looks interesting. Kinda liking that Challenger though..... and the Stang lives, and will likely be spiced up soon!
Loren
The rumor base engine is the 3.9 H.O. but who really knows.
Rocky
Rocky
http://delphi.com/images/tvcommercials/quarry_large.mov
DELPHI was ranked 2005' most technological innovator in the world. :shades:
Rocky
By Ed Hellwig Email
Date posted: 02-16-2006
The current Cadillac CTS-V isn't the BMW M5 killer General Motors hoped it would be. With the introduction of the more powerful 2006 M5, the CTS-V is 100 hp off the mark. Add in its lame interior and its vague steering and the Caddy's $50,000 price doesn't look like such a bargain.
We know a full-blown redesign of the CTS is already a done deal, but our latest spy photos show a prototype that hints at the possibility of a midcycle upgrade for the CTS-V. Caught testing at GM's Milford proving grounds, this prototype wears extended bodywork from nose to tail similar to Cadillac's CTS-V racecars. We've seen CTS prototypes like this before circling the Nürburgring, but they rarely had the level of fit and finish visible on this test car. This prototype also has a standard set of rear exhaust pipes. On the racecar the pipes poke through the bodywork ahead of the rear wheels.
And it's not just the bodywork that looks suitable for production. Check out the wheels and tires. Instead of ultralightweight O-Z racing wheels and low-profile slicks, this prototype is riding on wheels with the same design as the current CTS-V. They're not exactly the same, however, as you can clearly see that these wheels have lots of offset to accommodate wider tires. The change isn't just functional, it emphasizes the car's rear-wheel-drive setup. It's a styling trick BMW has used for decades now; it's about time Cadillac caught up.
If this car does turn out to be an actual production model, there will be more than just wider bodywork and a new set of wheels and tires to talk about. We would expect nothing less than a serious suspension upgrade along with the installation of the 505-horsepower, 7.0-liter LS7 V8 from the latest Z06 Corvette. This would put the CTS-V right back into the same league as the 500-hp 2006 BMW M5 in terms of power and at least a little closer when it comes to handling and steering feel. Throw in an upgraded interior and the CTS-V would start looking like a bargain again.
Rock n' Roll huh ?
Rocky
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
It's easy to pay for free service with other things they suggest, find that "need to be done," or scare the customer into pay for while the car's in the shop.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
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Your right, the Chrysler should be worth more
An Opel engine, and a so-so interior, with fewer features, to me equals less, and not more for a price than a Chrysler. The Cadillac is only another GM car, after all.
Loren