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The Camry SE does not have a 60/40 fold-down rear seatback or a reclinable rear seat. The reason for those deletions is that there's a V-shaped body-stiffening brace directly behind the rear seatback. I'm wondering when you and your spouse sat in the rear seat whether the pressure of your body against the seat back resulted in brief metal-to-metal contact between the rear seatback and the brace which caused the annoying, but harmless clicking noise. If that's the case, removing the rear seat back and applying contact cement and strips of corrugated cardboard as an isolation "cushion" to the surface of the "V" brace would probably silence the clicking annoyance permanently.
It's been my understanding from surfing the net that Toyota builds their A/Ts in their own transmission factories in Japan and the U.S. Is this incorrect?
If there's a setup where the seatback isn't strong enough to keep you from hitting the braces behind it, I'd let the dealer repair or patch their design problem...
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Hmmm... Nissan 3.5L V6 motor with 240 hp and 244 lb-ft of torque pushing ~4000 lbs vs. Toyota 2.4L I4 motor with 158 hp and 161 lb-ft of torque pushing 3307 lbs. You're seriously wondering why a vehicle that's nearly 700 lbs lighter is incapable of keeping up with its 82 fewer ponies when climbing and passing? By simple proportion calculation your Camry would need 191 hp to duplicate what your Murano achieves. Even at that, it's still not totally equivalent since I'll wager your Murano has a shorter final drive ratio than your economy-oriented Camry. (The Murano's great for hauling - butt or loads - however, poor for fuel economy...) If you wanted something approaching equivalent performance, you should've opted for a V6 engine in your Camry purchase - and its 268 hp/248 lb-ft. of torque would've STOMPED the Murano without breaking a sweat.
To each his own
I had a qualified mechanic work on my LeSabre each time I took it in. I guess there's a difference in dealer quality from brand to brand.
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Proof of what - that you've taken what I posted completely out of context? I posted nothing regarding Toyota's vendors. I only referenced Toyota's automatic transmissions, not Toyota engines. :confuse:
Does this seem possible that the weather would have something to do with the transmission????
It could be a simple fix like you suggest but the transmission will never be fixed UNTIL TOYOTA ADMITS TO THE PROBLEM!!! Like that will ever happen!!
Why hasn't the 2007 Camry problems been published in local newspapers? I'm begining to think the automobile advertiseing business and every thing associated with it is about as honest as The United Nations. I did see Consumer Reports Lower it's Quality Rating of Toyota from Excellent to Average though.
AFAIK there is no correlation between VSC and Toyota's transmission behaviors - the point of my post being that it is the electronic control systems that MUST be in place for the mfgrs. to even be able to offer things like VSC in the first place. VSC/TRAC/ABS is a decision that is being made for us, but it doesn't seem that the mfgrs. are having a lot of luck incorporating systems like this without effecting driveability. We all suffer while they work this and compliance to CAFE regs. out.
Does this seem possible that the weather would have something to do with the transmission????"
lol. franc, here's to hoping that it wasn't the cool weather this morning and that your 07 has finally adjusted itself to you like others have said. But, if it was the cool weather, then you'd be the second to note this and may be the beginning of the trend, after damon34 that is.
let us know if any hesitation returns on the drive home or in the next week.
You could be correct. I should have been alittle more clear... my apologies. I read this in another forum from someone who has been in comunication with a Toyota tech rep for the past month prior to ordering his SE V-6. He wanted assurances that he wouldn't have the 'tranny' issues that others have been having and was told that the 'vendors' that produce the trannys have been changed, and that this could be verified upon delivery.
So, I'll check if I can get details.
hey ilovecars1, I haven't heard anything about Toyota not manufacturing their own engines. But as I mentioned in my previous post, I read this from someone else who was alittle scared of what he had been reading and was able to communicate with Toyota for some assurances about the transmissions.
Like I said, I'll see if I can get some details. That said, I'm well over 8000 kms now in my SE I4 5A... and still extremely happy.
Have you experience the same? Is it normal?
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Yup, I read something about that too. But, I was under the impression that the new factories were going to be used to supply Toyota's push into the European market. None of their products were to be used in N. America nor in Japan. Could be wrong, but it makes sense, no?
Hate to tell ya' this, but you could be onto something. With cooler weather, the ECM will supply a richer mixture to the engine during warm-up. (Those of us old enough remember pulling out the ol' dash-mounted "choke" knob to do this manually.) I believe there've already been posts suggesting the hesitation is a "flat spot" in power output due to too lean a fuel mixture under certain conditions. There's no question that a lean-mix problem could be elliminated through changing the fuel delivery mapping at certain temperatures/barometric pressures. The question arises, though, whether doing so will knock the cars out of compliance with upcoming state and EPA emissions regulations. (It'll be interesting to see how well the next generation "N" and "Ho" cars fare in drivability...) An earlier post suggested Toyota had worked out a re-flash solution but was waiting to complete testing to submit compliance data to the EPA for approval (or something along those lines - memory fades fast at my age...). That might also explain Toyota's reticence to admit the problem and promise owners help is on the way. There's no telling how long it would take the EPA and those state agencies mandating PZEV compliance to get off the stick with their fuel mixture remapping approval notifications. These comments are just my own seat of the pants speculation, so treat them as such. (and to those who believe I'm fulla baloney, PHHHhhhhhtt!
Shift delay and intershift flare are the latest hotbuttons, but the trend here often seems to quickly drift into condemnations of Toyota for all sorts of evils, especially how toyota is to be avoided because of this or that reason.
I am considering an 07 Camry, and that's why these forums interest me. But I'm looking for real issues, not the same old/same old every day. I have test driven several Camrys, and a few that my co workers and friends own, and seen or heard nothing but praise. I personally have not experienced any of the quirks talked about here, and I haven't yet had anyone complain about these things in their cars.
Several posts talk of mediochre reviews by the pros. I haven't found one yet. Not one mention of the hot buttons being flogged to death here as typical of every Camry in the world.
Camry sales are through the roof, yet the regulars here say all these owners must be (or will be) dissatisfied because of this or that. So why are so many people buying them, and why isn't the media full of reports of dissatisfied owners?
I wish that we could see more real problems from many more people, not just the same daily clique of who appear to be just disgruntled owners gnashing their teeth in a public forum only because it's there!
Still have a bad tranny problem shifts all the time, and cruise is still terrible.
but it does make since why the car didnt hesitate when I bought it in March and started up when the weather got hot and muggie.
I almost bought a v6 camry se, I was there talking the deal, told them I would think about it, came back home and read more camry woes and remembered how Toyota treated me on this car. They were not giving me any specail deals because of my car. Basically I was going to take a hit of 4000 dollars on my car whoever I trade it to. So I passed up the camry. I really like the looks of my SE, But I cant take the risk of getting abad one. I dont no if you ever saw pics of my car but they are on here.
So I am sorry to say tomorrow the car will be gone, but when I come on here I always hope to find that they have come up with a solution to our problems and that we all can be happy with our camrys.
I wish everybody on here goodluck. Maybe somebody will win. My Toyota days are gone and will never tell anybody to buy one, but not goint to go out of my way to stop them either. I am done with this problem.
Everybody good luck
Yeah, it tells me they haven't sold 250,000 milan/fusions. lol :P
Perhaps they are the ones promoting other makes, like Fusions? That's why I wish there were more reality posts from real people.
PS, how come there are so many others, including all the pros, who aren't seeing those bugs with Camrys?
Perhaps they are the ones promoting other makes, like Fusions?
PS, how come there are so many others, including the pros, who aren't seeing those bugs with their Camrys?
Hmmm, interesting. Of course, one could say the same thing in reverse about the blindly loyal "Japanese cars are better" brigade who repeat the mantra to all and sundry that cars from Japanese makers are virtually perfect while those from North American makers are smoking heaps of wreckage by the time of the second monthly payment. You sound close to this group. Especially since you imply that the Camry woes do not even exist, and instead are the product of an organized smear campaign. Nice. Tell that to the owners here who are having troubles. Of course, according to you, they aren't real either. A fascinating study in denial.
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The "Pros" you speak of are the automotive writers. They don't keep their test vehicles long enough for potential problems to surface, as you have seen is the pattern with those experiencing Camry driveability problems. If you have done your research deep enough, you will see that Toyota has assigned an employee to this forum. Does that tell you that NO problems exist with the '07 Camry? All of those posting here and on the positive forums represent only 'nths of a point percentage sampling. However, the activity attracting Toyota Motor to the point of assigning a blogmiester speaks volumes. You're smart, you've done your research. Go and buy your '07 Camry. You'll be just fine.
I'm pretty sure that TMSUSA is in this and other forums voluntarily. Could be wrong... but to assume that he/she was assigned.
In your rush to judgement of me, you overlook a few things. I don't own a Camry. I'm not a fan of Toyota, at least not yet. I never said the problems I called hot buttons didn't exist. I came here looking for info. Call it research if you will. What I found was about a dozen or so posters presenting the same woes again and again, with a lot of emphasis on telling the world not to buy a Camry for any number of reasons. Most of this seemed just alarmist hyperpole to me, and I said as much. I also think any unbiased person would feel the same way.
My point was simply to ask for a little relief from the same old/same old, and leave some room for more real people to tell about their problems, then maybe tire kickers like me will get more meaningful feedback to make an informed decision.
Instead, this forum appears to me to be more of a chat room for a few disgruntled owners bent on sympathizing with each other, getting the don't buy Camry message out there, and stifle any interference from outsiders.
Possible, but a bit risky to be sticking your neck out in that fashion. Too much litigation risk involved to be volunteering as spokesman for a major corporation. If corporate legal caught wind, this guy's job would be on the line in short order. Chances are he's a PR person for ToyotaUSA, with approval from headquarters to deal with the negative forums. Mr. TMUSA, can you verify this?
if you don't want to believe it, put your money down and post how it is working out.
Another note: I met a guy in my gym who owns a camry 07. He said that he has this car for 4 months now, NO problem yet. Also, he mentioned that he owns a 02 camry and these 2 cars are very similar in driving experience.
Of course, those who had problems with 07 Camry can post as many times as they like. If I face problems with a new car, I will post at least a couple of dozen times.
Can anyone garantee that you won't have a problem if you were to purchase a Camry (or any vehicle)? NO. However, my money is still with Toyota. I'm at the point where I just disreguard many of "same old" posts. Others are quite amusing. Finally, we have no way of verifying the accuracy of any of these posts. Based on what is being posted recently it appears that the "woes" have slowed down considerably. You're on the right track, speak with the people on the street who actually own one.
No malice or disrespect intended to those who actually own a Camry with a real problem. Good Luck in trying to have it rectified.
We have a fair group of people posting to this forum that have or had problems and there are also some people posting here that seek to offer good advice and/or moral support. BUT, I am really tired of the people that get on this forum to offer NO support, NO experience, and/or NO comments related to the forum topic......
Start another forum, or post somewhere else, but DO take your comments elsewhere.
Come on, moderators - for those of us who have problems and want to discuss them in a sensible manner without having TROLLS causing problems - clean this forum up.
I am experiencing the same problem. It feels like something is loose or something is in the way of the steering at low speeds. Have brought this up to the dealer? Was your car manufactured in KY?
Anyone else experiencing this problem?
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I've got a clunking feel in my steering wheel