Tundra vs the Big 3 - Continued
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Tundra vs Big 3. Please continue these
discussions here. Thanks!
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Tundra vs Big 3. Please continue these
discussions here. Thanks!
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markcord,
I'm responding to you about the calibration test. Yes, it did work. I heard about this defense from a Philly lawyer(hence their reputation) and gave it a shot in Delaware. I requested it and the cop couldn't provide the necessary info to prove that his machine was "accurate".
Despite my good fortune, I understand now that the police have developed a good response to this argument. I believe these machines are tested and certified every year and thus validates the speed results and upholds it in court.
and I love it!! (All except those crappy back seats).
I've been looking at Silverado's, Tundra's and F150's. All very nice vehicles. I was pleased that the competition is producing nice trucks.
Same old story, loved the Silverado's cabin room and little niceties, like integrated seats, compass on rear view mirror etc. Nice ride and acceleration.
Didn't like that the fact that the battery went dead, the electric seat was broken. We had to test drive in a different truck. I didn't care for the dash tolerances. One truck, the dash was put together, snug as a bug, the next looked like it was going to come apart.
The F150 was all round nice too. Wide cabin. Nice acceleration except it sounded like it was having a hernia. I liked the variety of colors and platforms alot.
The tundra had the quietest cab and engine. Nice acceleration. Very nice ride.
Didn't (HATED) the back seats. The cab size is smaller, but fine for me. I'm 5'4''. Don't like the blower where it is on the passenger side. Love everything else. But the price. Even though I got mine 200 over invoice. Still hate the price of new cars PERIOD.
I perfer it also for the SMALLER size. I'm not married and have no kids. I go camping and hiking here in AZ. Got dogs. This is my first truck and it has 4 wheel drive, TRD, CQ, tow, blah, blah. Everything but leather (just about) which is the way I like it.
Is the truck more reliable? We'll wait and see. But if I had to bet, I bet thumbs up. All my friends (truck and nontruck fans) are quite impressed with it. So are my girlfriend and I.
500 miles, and breaking her in.
Get out and spend time with loved ones, too,
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1.) Accord
2.) F-Series
3.) Silverado/Sierra
32.) Tundra
Tundra ranked with the other small trucks, behind Dakota and Tacoma, just ahead of Frontier, S10, Sonoma, Ranger.
Compact Pickup Truck Segment
1. Mazda B-Series
2. GMC Sonoma
3. Chevrolet S10 Pickup
Full-Size Pickup Truck Segment
1. Toyota Tundra
2. Ford F-150 Light Duty
3. Ford F-250 Super Duty
J D powers simply sends a questionnaire to new owners and asks them how they like the initial quality, how many repairs they have had, etc. If there is any bias, it is from the owners, not JD powers. It's probably a pretty good indicator of initial quality. Not too suprising that Toyo won. What's more suprising is that in the compacts GM did well.
Quadrunner:
Some of the other "hot vehicles" lower than the tundra on the bottom of KBBs list are BMW's 5 Series, Audi A4, and Mercedes E-Class. What's your point?
: barlitz (bamatundra) Mon 08 May '00 (07:16 PM)
J.D. Powers and Associates 2000 Initial Quality
Study (SM) Awards Announced:
Full-Size Pickup Truck Segment
1. Toyota Tundra
2. Ford F-150 Light Duty
3. Ford F-250 Super Duty
Not bad for a first year vehicle.
On the other hand - Chevy Silverado scored -90% in
Consumer Reports predicted reliability for 2000
full size pickups. It was so bad, it was off their
chart. The only other vehicle to rate this bad
was the GMC Sierra.
Its a good thing that Chevy parts are so cheap
because the poor owners will need them - lots of
them. Is Chevy labor cheaper too?
Nobody gives a flip about JD Powers or Consumer Reports. If they did, we'd all be prostrate before the emperor, as you are. What I care about, Toyota does not make. A full size truck.
Let's leave it at that, shall we?
Chevy
Ford
Dodge
That's all there is to know about trucks..
(mostly just the first 2)
Toiletta still has a long way to go to have a real full size truck....for now it's just the midsize tundra...
Wake up....be an American..BUY American....if not?...then get the frick outa my country.
- Tim
Alan
As for Mexico and Canada....Ford and GM are american Companys...and the majority of the profit goes back to America...
Now Toiletta,Mazda,Honda,etc....they can have plants here and employ Americans and some people think it's OK....truth is the real profit goes Bye bye!
Wake up and smell America....or leave.
- Tim
Maybe you should check your household over and make sure that nothing foreign is present. I'd hate to see you kick yourself out of your own country.
Since I had occasion to do some service training for Toyota on the Tundra last fall, I thought I'd just stop in here to see what goes on... And I must say that I'm a bit shocked!
First, I'll suggest that Toyota has a very nice vehicle in the Tundra. For some buyers, it's just what the doctor ordered!
For others, a full-size GM, Ford or Dodge truck may be required for their work/towing capacity.
As for myself, I just took delivery of a Dakota Quad Cab with 5.9L engine... Simply because I wanted to step DOWN from a full-size (Ram) to a compact, but needed guts enough to haul a heavy load through the mountains. Like it or not, the QC was the only game in town for my purposes.
The point is, WHO CARES what is manfuctured by whom and where!? ALL the manufacturers produce good products. And ALL have their strengths and weaknesses.
The point is that we're all buying and owning trucks that serve our individual needs.
Nuff said... Good luck to all!
Oh well....so much for my post and whatever someone said after it..
GRRRR
I've got an American heritage to keep up....you traders go buy tindras....(still get free Ginsu??)
- Tim
bored. i mean really, who spends time looking
around their house to see what's made in america
and what's not.
Trucksrme, your last statment tells me that we
have something in common. at least you finally
made sense about something.
Good luck on this one too!!
...red
- Tim
I'm not bored.
And I don't look around my house to see what's american made. That is my point. Who really pays that much attention to where their toaster was made? They just buy one that suits their needs, has a good reputation for quality, and seems like a good deal.
That's why I don't understand the argument of buy american or leave the country.
For those of you who are so patriotic, don't ever complain about politics, gun laws, environmental regulation, etc. It's the U.S. love it or leave it. Right?
Let's face facts, it has nothing to do with patriotism. It's all about protecting your union job.
Now while I really don't have a problem with imports or Toyotas, (guess I'm only 95% with Tim on this afterall) if ANYONE would give up this great country (even with its flaws) because you couldn't buy imports here, I will personally buy the WHINERS a one way plane ticket to the marxist country of their choice.
(I could care less about the unions. I do care for the US citizens, and feel they should love this great country, or leave it.)
I am not anti-import, but I do think that often times people of the US take their freedoms for granted and to an extent, contribute to the problems that they complain about.
I believe the same thing about foreign language. Why is it now that in my native country I have to learn a foreign language in order to converse with people? I would expect that if I traveled outside my country, not in my own land. However, foreigners come to our country, the US, and they are not expected to learn our native language, English.
Makes no sense to me. Again, I am not a bigot or racist. I just think if you come to our country, speak our language and don't complain about how things are, else go back to where you came from.
I got zapped too!
see...at the truck bash we can say whatever the heck we want...
He is invited....(if we ever go?)
- Tim
So if you buy an import....it shows your lack of love for this great place...
- Tim
.....based on my price of my truck..and my price of my beer...and keeping the truck for 2 years..I'd have to buy 10.89 cases a week!
...that's OK..right?
LOL
- Tim
that the material they use for foriegn vehicles?
if so then the more beer we drink the more
toyota's that get built. sort of a catch 22,
unless we buy beer in the bottle. that would be
cool, a glass tundra.
DOHH!
- Tim