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Tundra vs the Big 3 - Continued
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I think this much is enough for now. Any comments?
By the way, I love America.
What are you smoking? "So if you buy an import........... it shows your lack of love for this great place" I own an import and a Cummins Dodge, and I also defend this country so you can sleep in freedom at night. I am willing to give the ultimate sacriface for this country, are you? I almost have on a few occasions overseas, have you? Don't even put me in a lack of love category because I bought an import, and I love BEER also.
Am I willing to give the ultimate sacrifice?....(see above)
I applaud you for being the hero type...however I still hold firm that you should go all the way and buy American cars..
..and it's good that you love beer.....Buy a Truck bash T-shirt and we will see you there..
- Tim
....speaking of can.....
- Tim
- Tim
On the other hand, I took delivery of a 2000 Dakota Quad last week for a reason... Simply becuase it had the guts (5.9) and space I wanted without the bulk of my current Ram.
Again... It gets down to "what you need." If you genuinely need the brawn and guts of a full-size American truck, so be it! If not, the Tundra is a logical alternative. In my case, I may have gone with the Tundra were it not for the need to haul heavier loads.
BUT!!!! Don't think for a moment that Toyota isn't watching the sales numbers as closely as its U.S. counterparts... And remember that the Toyota guys are still quicker to respond (design-to-build) to the marketplace than we are here in Detroit.
The point?
Don't write off the Tundra as a "toy" just yet...
- Tim
- Tim
really spells? Give up? "Da Runt"! See, that
factory got a sense of humor now. Them yuppies be
lovein "Da Runt" for sure. Guessin the joke be on
them yuppies for spendin all that cash on them
limited ones now and thinkin they got a "full size" one. Good luck on this one now!
Not certain what your perspective is, but it's good to hear from another here in Motown!
I've lived and breathed cars and trucks all my life... And NEVER did I ever see the design, performance and quality of domestic products rise so quickly as when the Asian manufacturers came in through the '70s and notched the post up a few pegs.
It's a BIG world out there. Competition is a global reality. And while I'd like to have seen the U.S. take the lead, it took a bit of "outside influence" to get the big three going again.
It's one thing to knock the foreign makers for taking dollars offshore and what weaknesses we might find in their products... It's another thing to appreciate that they triggered us to "wake up and smell the coffee."
Nuff said...
Keep in mind, please, that I'm delighted with my 2000 Dakota QC... But also that Toyota has a rightful spot in the marketplace for certain buyers (just as we have a rightful place in foreign markets for certain buyers).
- Tim
I referred to "ground-up" in reference primarily to powertrain... The Tacoma is, indeed, a new truck!
Fact is, ANY manufacturer that would discard purposeful components of "previous" vehicles would be out of business post-haste!
Is the Durango a new vehicle? NO! It's a clever adaptation of off-the-shelf Dakota stuff along with some new stuff!
Is the Dakaota Quad a new vehicle? NO! It's a clever adaptation of off-the-shelf Durango stuff along with some new stuff!
Is the Chevy Silverado a new vehicle? NO! It's a clever adaptation of C/K series off-the-shelf stuff along with some new stuff!
As for the 8-ft. bed... It's fine if that's what you need! I don't! I haul a 14-ft. enclosed trailer with a couple of Harleys, 10-12 fishing rods, tools and tackle just fine with the '95 Ram SLT shortbed with 5.9... Just as I'll do the same with the 2000 Dakota Quad with 5.9. If I need to load up 8-ft. lumber, I'll drop the gate. It's all what you NEED!
On a lighter note... There's a corner of the trailer reserved for a porta-potty... Sure has come in handy on those long trips!!!
Regards to all!
Dakota Quad and Durango are both the same vehicle almost, and both were adapted from the ex-cab dakota. Everything is the same.
The only thing the Silverado shares with the older C/K is probably the rear axles, and that was probably changed. everything else, bumper to bumper is different.
- Tim
Radio, antenna, hood release, steering wheel, I think the transmission is the same mechanical set up but new electronic controls were added.
Every thing else is new - engine, frame, bumpers, body & door panels, grill, dash & gauges, seats, counsel, transfer case (autotrac), drive shaft, locking rear end (same ratios but prior trucks had the limited slip)
Who cares if some parts are the same and others are new as long as it works. As far as it looking the same as the old style Chevy, people must be blind. I see my 99 truck sitting next to my 98 every day in my driveway, they look about as much alike as a Firebird T/A and a Ford Mustang.
Does anyone have any info on the '01 GMC Sierra C-Series? Is it supposed to have the 6.0L V-8? Is it a half-ton?
My thoughts are that by putting the 6.0 in the GMC they are doing a feasibility study for the upcoming SSR.
a 2WD 6.0?....just upgrade all around to a 2500 and get a 6.0 with 4WD.
- Tim
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- Tim