Second gen Bronco began development under the name "Shorthorn." An excerpt from The Bronco At 50: A History Of Ford’s Trail Pony:
According to George Peterson, onetime product design engineer at Ford, there was a relatively large budget devoted to the project. He described four concepts: Shorthorn (a two-door fullsize on a 105-inch wheelbase), Longhorn (a four-door fullsize on a standard 1/2-ton wheelbase with an extended rear overhang), Midhorn (a Longhorn without the extended tail), and the Widehorn (an extended-width version of the Longhorn). According to Peterson, the only running prototype was the Shorthorn, which was built in 1973 from a shortened ’72 F-100 truck... By the time it was introduced for ’78, only the two-door Shorthorn idea was produced with the Bronco nameplate. The development of a four-door SUV was deemed too risky at the time.
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I am so tired of advertising showing how comfortable a vehicle is by ‘dad’ driving and everyone else (full occupancy) peacefully sleeping. Just saw a Highlander commercial, and thought how unoriginal and boring.
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I saw the new "built bigger better" Expedition commercial recently and then found it on youtube. No sleeping kids or Subaru dogs here just big daddy Expedition-ing his way through the desert. BIG that's BETTER BECAUSE we BUILT it that way. I like it even though I have no need for the size or towing capacity. Somebody needs that truck!
I am so tired of advertising showing how comfortable a vehicle is by ‘dad’ driving and everyone else (full occupancy) peacefully sleeping. Just saw a Highlander commercial, and thought how unoriginal and boring.
I hate to say it... but in our family that is the reality. Almost every road trip, kids catching some Z's in the back and wife either reading something on her phone or sleeping too.
I am so tired of advertising showing how comfortable a vehicle is by ‘dad’ driving and everyone else (full occupancy) peacefully sleeping. Just saw a Highlander commercial, and thought how unoriginal and boring.
Reminds me of a (local?) GM spot, maybe for Pontiac, that aired here during the early 'oughts, using the song "Might as Well Be Walking On the Sun". I always piped up "Because you're gonna get burned".
Highlander is effectively a Camry ...and the Honda Pilot and new Passport come from the Odyssey minivan. One sit behind the wheel and the intruding wheel well bares that out.
It does have a certain resemblance. The style that followed it looked more modern but was not a well-made vehicle (assuming that any Chryslers from that era actually were).
I like the '74 GMC camper special 3/4 ton with 4x4 and dealer asking price $5295. What are dealers asking now for a 2 y/o GMC 1500 or 2500 regular cab 4x4?
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That's pretty interesting. I have to imagine the running costs of a road-going locomotive like an armored 770K in dreary austere postwar Blighty would have made it a real white elephant. I suspect the car is in a military museum now. One of those things that changes hands with no fanfare, but is well into 7 figures anyway.
Reminds me of something I read about a 540K roadster with similar provenance, I think the car had a special steering wheel or seating position to account for the driver's large size. It was sold at auction in ~1955 for maybe $2500 - the price of a decent normal new car then. Not the worst investment, if one can stand the negative association.
I suspect the survival rate for those was very high - nobody was going to throw away a souvenir like that. Quite the auction price there, and that damp dreary street scene at the beginning is just what I would expect.
I saw it, and was not impressed. Not sure why they think people who avoid them b/c of the diesel scandal will suddenly make a 180. Besides, what car designer uses pen and paper these days?
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Left the site or actually signed out? Signing out and in has also restored Edit Profile for users (and mods) that couldn't. It feels like lingering issues are from accessing cached versions of a page. Could also give an incognito window a try.
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And if you use multiple browsers, those will each have the old pages cached.
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Ads from January of 1929. The Ford ad says that the Model A is designed and built for functionality and durability, and that it is an expression of an "ideal" that is more important even than profit. These are high rez, and so if you click on them twice you should be able to read even the small text if you'd like.
I completely forgot about Viking, and especially it being marketed with Oldsmobile as a higher line than Olds. Seems it was built from 1929-30 with a few 31s produced.
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Staying in the Olds history, this is a key chain given to me when I had my 2001 Aurora 4.0. Less than a year later and before Olds produced the last Alero, this Olds dealer faded into history. Now the key chain is used to keep the yard shed lock key.
As side note, before closing the Olds dealership location was fairly new and was built when Olds tried the one price strategy copying Saturn and the building design looked Saturnish as well. After the Olds dealership closed, it became a Toyota dealership, then around 2005, a VW dealership. It is still a VW dealership and it is where we recently bought the ‘16 Audi Q5.
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An excerpt from The Bronco At 50: A History Of Ford’s Trail Pony:
According to George Peterson, onetime product design engineer at Ford, there was a relatively large budget devoted to the project. He described four concepts: Shorthorn (a two-door fullsize on a 105-inch wheelbase), Longhorn (a four-door fullsize on a standard 1/2-ton wheelbase with an extended rear overhang), Midhorn (a Longhorn without the extended tail), and the Widehorn (an extended-width version of the Longhorn). According to Peterson, the only running prototype was the Shorthorn, which was built in 1973 from a shortened ’72 F-100 truck... By the time it was introduced for ’78, only the two-door Shorthorn idea was produced with the Bronco nameplate. The development of a four-door SUV was deemed too risky at the time.
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The Good-Bad-Ugly sound alike background music was good but Ford should have sprung for this version by The Danish National Symphony Orchestra.
At least I get to pick the music.
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Voice-over:
"Other species avoid pain and struggle."
(cut to this shot of front end of a new Ranger)
"We actually seek it out."
Not promising for the driving/ownership experience it unintentionally promises. Editing is important.
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In my area, the odd hyperbolic "aggressively sophisticated" slogan is used to describe that glorified minivan.
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Reminds me of something I read about a 540K roadster with similar provenance, I think the car had a special steering wheel or seating position to account for the driver's large size. It was sold at auction in ~1955 for maybe $2500 - the price of a decent normal new car then. Not the worst investment, if one can stand the negative association.
There were a few of these floating around after WWII and this different one has an interesting history too:
https://journals.lib.unb.ca/index.php/mcr/article/view/17835/22142
No idea where the one that was in Britain in 1952 ended up.
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Ruh-roh. What worked 5 minutes ago in Firefox doesn't work now. Pulldowns unresponsive again.
Atten: @PF_Flyer , any suggestions? Have already left the site and returned, still no luck.
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Cached versions of all the pages you've been on are saved on your computer. (to speed up your next visit) You might also be running into the issue on each page as you visit it. Might want to clear your cache and get rid of old versions of all the pages you frequent.
And if you use multiple browsers, those will each have the old pages cached.
My computers get cluttered with all sorts of useful stuff too!
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Still won't work.
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So, working on this one for now at least. The mystery deepens.
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As side note, before closing the Olds dealership location was fairly new and was built when Olds tried the one price strategy copying Saturn and the building design looked Saturnish as well. After the Olds dealership closed, it became a Toyota dealership, then around 2005, a VW dealership. It is still a VW dealership and it is where we recently bought the ‘16 Audi Q5.
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