2019 Audi RS 5 Lease Questions

shoot2thrill367shoot2thrill367 Bay AreaMember Posts: 7
edited March 2019 in Audi
Hello does anyone have MF / RV numbers for the 2019 RS 5 sportback?

I'm looking for a 36/10 lease near 95117 with the below options:

https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-rs5-sportback/2019/build/packages-options.html?pr=F5ARXA1_2019|T3T3|UB|PPK|WTP|WS1|9VS|1N8|TAC2AC2|PCU
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907

    Hello does anyone have MF / RV numbers for the 2019 RS 5 sportback?

    I'm looking for a 36/10 lease near 95117 with the below options:

    https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-rs5-sportback/2019/build/packages-options.html?pr=F5ARXA1_2019|T3T3|UB|PPK|WTP|WS1|9VS|1N8|TAC2AC2|PCU

    .00236 MF and 56% residual

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  • shoot2thrill367shoot2thrill367 Bay AreaMember Posts: 7
    edited March 2019
    Wow the residual is lower than I expected on these cars... they are limited edition so shouldn't the residual be higher? I was hoping for 60% at least.
  • Afar225Afar225 Member Posts: 8
    Wow the residual is lower than I expected on these cars... they are limited edition so shouldn't the residual be higher? I was hoping for 60% at least.
    Have you contacted any dealers? Curious to know what numbers you’re getting 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907

    Wow the residual is lower than I expected on these cars... they are limited edition so shouldn't the residual be higher? I was hoping for 60% at least.

    Generally, the more expensive a model, the less it's worth at lease end. This is typical.

    Audis have fairly low residuals, anyway.

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  • shoot2thrill367shoot2thrill367 Bay AreaMember Posts: 7
    edited March 2019
    Afar225 said:


    Have you contacted any dealers? Curious to know what numbers you’re getting 

    I have not contacted any yet. I might test drive one this weekend and I can get some numbers.

  • Afar225Afar225 Member Posts: 8
    These are numbers I got - 2019 sportback
    83770
    36/15k 
    2500 drive off which includes 1st payment
    - 1380/month

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,482
    Afar225 said:

    These are numbers I got - 2019 sportback
    83770
    36/15k 
    2500 drive off which includes 1st payment
    - 1380/month

    What is the MSRP?
    What is the selling price?

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  • Afar225Afar225 Member Posts: 8
    Michaell said:
    These are numbers I got - 2019 sportback
    83770
    36/15k 
    2500 drive off which includes 1st payment
    - 1380/month

    What is the MSRP? What is the selling price?
    Msrp 83770
    Sales price 80000
    rebate 750
     - gave me 4K tax credit
    54% residual with Audi care

    does this look like a good deal?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,482
    Afar225 said:


    Michaell said:

    These are numbers I got - 2019 sportback
    83770
    36/15k 
    2500 drive off which includes 1st payment
    - 1380/month

    What is the MSRP?
    What is the selling price?

    Msrp 83770
    Sales price 80000
    rebate 750
     - gave me 4K tax credit
    54% residual with Audi care

    does this look like a good deal?


    Ah, I see.

    What ZIP code is this?

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  • Afar225Afar225 Member Posts: 8
    Michaell said:
    Michaell said:
    These are numbers I got - 2019 sportback
    83770
    36/15k 
    2500 drive off which includes 1st payment
    - 1380/month

    What is the MSRP? What is the selling price?
    Msrp 83770
    Sales price 80000
    rebate 750
     - gave me 4K tax credit
    54% residual with Audi care

    does this look like a good deal?
    Ah, I see. What ZIP code is this?
    77099
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,482
    Afar225 said:


    Michaell said:

    Afar225 said:


    Michaell said:

    These are numbers I got - 2019 sportback
    83770
    36/15k 
    2500 drive off which includes 1st payment
    - 1380/month

    What is the MSRP?
    What is the selling price?

    Msrp 83770
    Sales price 80000
    rebate 750
     - gave me 4K tax credit
    54% residual with Audi care

    does this look like a good deal?
    Ah, I see.

    What ZIP code is this?


    77099

    .00236 and 53% for 36/15; add 1% for AudiCare

    The tax credit is a huge help on your lease payment.

    That said, with your prices, I get $1261/mo.

    My guess is that either:
    1. The adjusted cap cost is higher than the selling price, or
    2. The MF has been marked up

    Ask the dealer to provide both of those numbers they used for their $1380/mo quote.

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  • Afar225Afar225 Member Posts: 8
    The MF they are giving me is .00319. 
    Contacted another dealer who also gave me a .003 MF. This is way too high right?! 
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,482
    Afar225 said:

    The MF they are giving me is .00319. 
    Contacted another dealer who also gave me a .003 MF. This is way too high right?! 

    Trying to hit a home run with those MF.

    Tell them you won't sign a deal unless you get the base MF.

    However, given the rareness of the RS5 SB, you may have to pay that if you want one badly enough.

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  • Afar225Afar225 Member Posts: 8
    Michaell said:
    The MF they are giving me is .00319. 
    Contacted another dealer who also gave me a .003 MF. This is way too high right?! 
    Trying to hit a home run with those MF. Tell them you won't sign a deal unless you get the base MF. However, given the rareness of the RS5 SB, you may have to pay that if you want one badly enough.
    Thank you so much for your help. After all I’ve gone through with this dealership (quoting me 1700/m initially) - I’m debating whether it’s worth it to proceed with them at all. They only started bringing numbers down once I started throwing lease terms at them. Is there incentive for them to lease to me by tomorrow since it’s the end of the quarter?

     Wondering if it’s worth it to wait a few months for bmw’s 2020 models. 
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,482
    Afar225 said:


    Michaell said:

    Afar225 said:

    The MF they are giving me is .00319. 
    Contacted another dealer who also gave me a .003 MF. This is way too high right?! 

    Trying to hit a home run with those MF.

    Tell them you won't sign a deal unless you get the base MF.

    However, given the rareness of the RS5 SB, you may have to pay that if you want one badly enough.

    Thank you so much for your help. After all I’ve gone through with this dealership (quoting me 1700/m initially) - I’m debating whether it’s worth it to proceed with them at all. They only started bringing numbers down once I started throwing lease terms at them. Is there incentive for them to lease to me by tomorrow since it’s the end of the quarter?

     Wondering if it’s worth it to wait a few months for bmw’s 2020 models. 

    The Audi programs run through Monday, so you've got a few days.

    And, you'll have to wait for the 2020 BMW's to be released before you can make that decision. I don't see the numbers on the Audi getting that much worse.

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  • royalace4royalace4 Member Posts: 21
    Hi. When you get them, can you provide the residual and MF for April for both the 2019 RS5 Coupe and Sportback for 36/15k in 18902? Thanks.
  • royalace4royalace4 Member Posts: 21
    royalace4 said:

    Hi. When you get them, can you provide the residual and MF for April for both the 2019 RS5 Coupe and Sportback for 36/15k in 18902? Thanks.

    Hi. Are you able to provide these numbers? Thanks in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,482
    royalace4 said:

    royalace4 said:

    Hi. When you get them, can you provide the residual and MF for April for both the 2019 RS5 Coupe and Sportback for 36/15k in 18902? Thanks.

    Hi. Are you able to provide these numbers? Thanks in advance.
    Whoops, sorry for overlooking this.

    .00228 and 50% (Coupe) or 51% (Sportback)
    $750 loyalty

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  • R8M3R8M3 Member Posts: 10
    Hi! New to the forum.   Can I get a MF and residual for a 24/10k in zip 33991?

    Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,482
    R8M3 said:

    Hi! New to the forum.   Can I get a MF and residual for a 24/10k in zip 33991?

    Thanks in advance!

    Coupe or Sportback?

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  • R8M3R8M3 Member Posts: 10
    Michaell said:
    Hi! New to the forum.   Can I get a MF and residual for a 24/10k in zip 33991?

    Thanks in advance!
    Coupe or Sportback?
    Sportback
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,482
    R8M3 said:


    Michaell said:

    R8M3 said:

    Hi! New to the forum.   Can I get a MF and residual for a 24/10k in zip 33991?

    Thanks in advance!

    Coupe or Sportback?

    Sportback

    .00228 and 61%

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  • RAFRAF Member Posts: 9
    What would be the MF and residual for the A5 Sportback with zip 53005?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,482
    RAF said:

    What would be the MF and residual for the A5 Sportback with zip 53005?

    Please repost in the A5 lease thread, here:
    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/53674/audi/a5/2019-audi-a5-lease-deals-and-prices#latest

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  • R8M3R8M3 Member Posts: 10
    Michaell said:
    Michaell said:
    Hi! New to the forum.   Can I get a MF and residual for a 24/10k in zip 33991?

    Thanks in advance!
    Coupe or Sportback?
    Sportback
    .00228 and 61%
    Thanks for the quick reply!
  • JSimpsonJSimpson Member Posts: 31
    Hi, can you please provide residual and MF for 2019 RS5 sportback, 12k/36, 92660? Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907
    JSimpson said:

    Hi, can you please provide residual and MF for 2019 RS5 sportback, 12k/36, 92660? Thanks!

    .00228 MF and 53% residual

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  • 6oh86oh8 Member Posts: 5
    Hi! Can anyone provide the residual and MF for 2019 RS5 Sportback 12k/36 in 53202?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907
    6oh8 said:

    Hi! Can anyone provide the residual and MF for 2019 RS5 Sportback 12k/36 in 53202?

    .00228 MF and 53% residual

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  • royalace4royalace4 Member Posts: 21
    Hello. Can you provide the May MF and residual for a 2019 RS5 Sportback for 36/15k in 18902? Thanks.
  • BrainDrBrainDr OhioMember Posts: 17
    Rs5 sportback for 36/15k

    43551 and 45385 zip, thanks!

    Any incentives other than loyalty? 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907
    royalace4 said:

    Hello. Can you provide the May MF and residual for a 2019 RS5 Sportback for 36/15k in 18902? Thanks.

    .00223 MF and 51% residual

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907
    BrainDr said:

    Rs5 sportback for 36/15k

    43551 and 45385 zip, thanks!

    Any incentives other than loyalty? 

    .00223 MF and 51% residual

    $750 loyalty

    No other incentives

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  • DrewS8DrewS8 Los AngelesMember Posts: 5
    What is the residual and mf for a 2019 rs5 sportback. Zip code 90211. 24/7.5k/10k 
    36/7.5k/10k. I doubt there are any incentives but worth a try. Thank you! 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907
    DrewS8 said:

    What is the residual and mf for a 2019 rs5 sportback. Zip code 90211. 24/7.5k/10k 
    36/7.5k/10k. I doubt there are any incentives but worth a try. Thank you! 

    .00223 MF
    61%/54% residual for 24/36 mo, 10K/yr

    No incentives

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  • MarjanMarjan Member Posts: 2
    edited June 2019
    Hi. First, thank you for saving me money on a new S3 last year! Could I get the numbers for 2019 RS5 SB, zip code 33543. Any incentives? 36/12.
    Dealer gave me 1700 a month, without taxes and fees and 4k down, lol. MSRP $91,880, with the discounts $86,536. Before anything else. Thank you a lot.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907
    Marjan said:

    Hi. First, thank you for saving me money on a new S3 last year! Could I get the numbers for 2019 RS5 SB, zip code 33543. Any incentives? 36/12.
    Dealer gave me 1700 a month, without taxes and fees and 4k down, lol. MSRP $91,880, with the discounts $86,536. Before anything else. Thank you a lot.

    It will be a couple of days before we have the new programs that start tomorrow.

    At that price, you could have a 60 month loan for the same payment.

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  • MarjanMarjan Member Posts: 2
    edited June 2019
    kyfdx said:
    Hi. First, thank you for saving me money on a new S3 last year! Could I get the numbers for 2019 RS5 SB, zip code 33543. Any incentives? 36/12.
    Dealer gave me 1700 a month, without taxes and fees and 4k down, lol. MSRP $91,880, with the discounts $86,536. Before anything else. Thank you a lot.
    It will be a couple of days before we have the new programs that start tomorrow. At that price, you could have a 60 month loan for the same payment.
    Hi. Any updates on the numbers? Thanks!
    What calculator would you guys use? 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907
    Marjan said:


    kyfdx said:

    Hi. First, thank you for saving me money on a new S3 last year! Could I get the numbers for 2019 RS5 SB, zip code 33543. Any incentives? 36/12.
    Dealer gave me 1700 a month, without taxes and fees and 4k down, lol. MSRP $91,880, with the discounts $86,536. Before anything else. Thank you a lot.
    It will be a couple of days before we have the new programs that start tomorrow.

    At that price, you could have a 60 month loan for the same payment.

    Hi. Any updates on the numbers? Thanks!
    What calculator would you guys use? 

    .00212 MF and 53% residual

    We don't use lease calculators
    Just math

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  • ECott58ECott58 CharlestonMember Posts: 9
    Lease Audi RS 5 May 28, 2019
    So I was going buy (pay half purchase price and finance the rest at 3.99%).
    MSRP- $87,940
    Agreed price was $80,765
    Decided Id probably sell it in 3 years so was talked into leasing.
    I did a single pay of $44,209 (have excellent credit)
    15,000 miles a year
    "rental charge" of $10,300
    residual 52% MF 00223 (got these numbers weeks later-I know , shame on me)
    Thoughts?
    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907
    ECott58 said:

    Lease Audi RS 5 May 28, 2019
    So I was going buy (pay half purchase price and finance the rest at 3.99%).
    MSRP- $87,940
    Agreed price was $80,765
    Decided Id probably sell it in 3 years so was talked into leasing.
    I did a single pay of $44,209 (have excellent credit)
    15,000 miles a year
    "rental charge" of $10,300
    residual 52% MF 00223 (got these numbers weeks later-I know , shame on me)
    Thoughts?
    Thanks

    Sportback?
    .00223 MF and 51% residual. (52% residual if you bought AudiCare)
    Single Pay should have dropped the money factor to .00163 base.

    What is your location?
    Other than the apparently marked up money factor, doesn't look too bad.

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  • ECott58ECott58 CharlestonMember Posts: 9
    hi thanks for the info! I am in Charleston SC. 29401. When I asked a few days after leasing I was told the MF was .00223 and residual was 52%. I did a very large single pay and dont think I got any credit for it. I emailed both the sales guy and the dealership mgr last week but they have not replied other than the sales guy saying that he passed my concerns onto management. Still no reply. My purchase interest rate (before I changed my mind to lease was 3.9 %. Can you explain how the marked up MF has affected me expense wise? What recourse is there at this point? Thanks for your help! Love your site, btw. I have used Edmunds for ever to review cars.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,482
    ECott58 said:

    hi thanks for the info! I am in Charleston SC. 29401. When I asked a few days after leasing I was told the MF was .00223 and residual was 52%. I did a very large single pay and dont think I got any credit for it. I emailed both the sales guy and the dealership mgr last week but they have not replied other than the sales guy saying that he passed my concerns onto management. Still no reply. My purchase interest rate (before I changed my mind to lease was 3.9 %. Can you explain how the marked up MF has affected me expense wise? What recourse is there at this point? Thanks for your help! Love your site, btw. I have used Edmunds for ever to review cars.

    It's very possible the dealer marked up the MF before adjusting it down for the single-pay.

    Roughly $75/mo difference between the two payments, or about $2700 total for the one-pay lease.

    If you've signed the papers and taken delivery, there's not much recourse, legally.

    You can, however, present yourself at the dealer and see if they will be reasonable, for customer satisfaction purposes, and rewrite the contract.

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  • ECott58ECott58 CharlestonMember Posts: 9
    Thanks- I think you meant, that the dealer may have adjusted the MF upward adn left it there. Even with teh single pay it was .0023 (as I have since learned) and not .0163.
    Any thoughts on recourse for the defective garage door opener?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907
    ECott58 said:

    Thanks- I think you meant, that the dealer may have adjusted the MF upward adn left it there. Even with teh single pay it was .0023 (as I have since learned) and not .0163.
    Any thoughts on recourse for the defective garage door opener?

    If you did single pay, the .00060 reduction has to be made.
    If your actual rate ended up being .00223, then the dealer marked up the rate by .00060, before giving you the .00060 deduction for single pay.

    Ask the dealer to send someone to your house to program the garage door opener. I doubt you have any recourse. Make sure that you don't have LED bulbs in the garage.

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  • ECott58ECott58 CharlestonMember Posts: 9
    Thank you. Don't know if it changes anything but this is the reply I got from the dealer: "You ask about verification on the savings on the one pay lease and reviewing your rate was .00232 the rate range on this audi RS5 is .00212 to .00337 the savings was around $2749.00. Also the price on the vechicle was MSRP $87940 and the sales price you negotiate was $80,765."
    At my request they are going to send a tech over to check out the garage door. They have admitted that there is a software glitch (too much external electronic interference from the car) that causes the garage door problem. Can't believe there is no recourse considering they knew of the problem in advance. I'll review the car on your site and point that out. It is otherwise a fantastic car, so far, I think. Just wish I had bought instead of leased. Have you ever heard of a dealer voiding a lease (30 days from signing) at the customers request and doing a full purchase instead?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907
    ECott58 said:

    Thank you. Don't know if it changes anything but this is the reply I got from the dealer: "You ask about verification on the savings on the one pay lease and reviewing your rate was .00232 the rate range on this audi RS5 is .00212 to .00337 the savings was around $2749.00. Also the price on the vechicle was MSRP $87940 and the sales price you negotiate was $80,765."
    At my request they are going to send a tech over to check out the garage door. They have admitted that there is a software glitch (too much external electronic interference from the car) that causes the garage door problem. Can't believe there is no recourse considering they knew of the problem in advance. I'll review the car on your site and point that out. It is otherwise a fantastic car, so far, I think. Just wish I had bought instead of leased. Have you ever heard of a dealer voiding a lease (30 days from signing) at the customers request and doing a full purchase instead?

    The money factor reply is just doublespeak. They marked up your rate, before giving you a single-pay discount. Likely, they would have marked up your rate, in any case.

    What difference would it have made if you bought the car? Even though it's leased, you can still sell it. And, take a massive hit to your wallet, just like you would if you owned it.

    I'd give the tech a chance at it. Maybe, it will all work out.

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  • ECott58ECott58 CharlestonMember Posts: 9
    Thanks for the reply. The difference in buying the car, it seems to me, is that I would have avoided the $10,300 "rent charge" altogether (plus the $895 lease acquisition fee [they also charged a $450 closing fee which seems more appropriate, if at all, with a sale not a lease) The financing would have been at 3.9 % on the remaining balance of approximately $36,000. Seems like a big savings there, plus I would have liekly paid it off entirely over the next 6 months or so.
    I will definitely give the tech a chance on the door opener.. That's appropriate.
    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,907
    ECott58 said:

    Thanks for the reply. The difference in buying the car, it seems to me, is that I would have avoided the $10,300 "rent charge" altogether (plus the $895 lease acquisition fee [they also charged a $450 closing fee which seems more appropriate, if at all, with a sale not a lease) The financing would have been at 3.9 % on the remaining balance of approximately $36,000. Seems like a big savings there, plus I would have liekly paid it off entirely over the next 6 months or so.
    I will definitely give the tech a chance on the door opener.. That's appropriate.
    Thanks

    The rent charge is the total amount, if you pay all of the payments. You don't pay rent charge for payments you haven't made. Yes, you are out the $895 acquisition fee, because you leased. If you sell the car before lease is up, there is no disposition fee.

    In either case, selling the car early will be a massive loss, whether you lease or buy.

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  • chriscuddy168chriscuddy168 Member Posts: 7
    seeking RV/MF for 2019 Audi RS 5 Sportback zip code 33127. 12k/36 months + audi care. Thanks
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