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We will STILL beat out the Red Sox before the end of the year.
Go Derek! Go Alex! Go Yankees! Go BMW and Chris Bangle! :shades:
Doc now I can understand why you dont like BMW styling.
Lest we forget....
I am a high-school gangster. My practice is my avocation. :P
DrFill
:sick:
Let's go Mets!
DrFill
Often copied...never equalled! :shades:
Oh, I don't hate Chris Bangle, I am just frustrated that he took the design scheme of the E46, E39 and E38 away from me. I considered those as the best looking Bimmers (especially the E39) up to date.
Go Braves!!
If Willie did let us get Shoenwised, we'd have swept.
The Mets do what they can do, when they can do it.
That's all we do.
DrFill
Lexus did it butter, or better.
That's how they do.
DrFill
California? At least you will be able to watch the world series at a decent time.
I go back to the days when some world series games were actually played in the...gasp...afternoon!
you're both living proof of the statistics below. Now Howard if you owned a Porsche you would have the same perpetual grin on your face as the one Tagman has (yellow Carreras can make anyone grin) . The rank of Lexus deserves a borderline frown/grin. Not very impressive IMO.
J.D. Power and Associates customer satisfaction survey of U.S. drivers released June 28th, 2007
Overall, Porsche AG was the highest-ranking nameplate for a third consecutive year, while the most improved nameplate was Toyota's Scion. BMW was the No. 2 nameplate, followed by DaimlerChrysler AG's Mercedes-Benz, Ford's Jaguar and Toyota's Lexus.
Mercedes-Benz and BMW AG each had three models atop premium segments. Mercedes-Benz was tops with its midsize E-Class car and large S-class car, and its GL-Class tied for a top spot with General Motors Corp.'s Cadillac Escalade EXT in a segment that includes large luxury SUVs and crossovers. BMW's 3 Series and 6 Series cars, and X5 midsize crossover SUV all received top rankings.
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I try to tune in the Yankee games in the 545i, but I only got up to page 145 in the iDrive manual. Advanced menus start way back on page 235. By the time I get there, the season may be over. :surprise:
If I was a single guy, it would be an absolute no-brainer. One of the Porsche Caymans.
I still can't get that beautiful Cayman I saw inside one of the malls several months ago, out of my mind. Has a very low ingress/egress, but I'm sure I could adjust. And, oh, what beautiful paint! :surprise:
Prius and the new Lexus will be the two distinct hybrid models offered by Toyota.
Pricing? Supposedly it will be below the price of the IS.
Apparently hybrid owners want to flaunt their green credentials to the world with a distinctive car that everyone will notice as a hybrid. Personally I prefer the indistinction of the hybrid Camry --- in fact that is the reason why I almost bought one but was repelled by its limited trunk space.
What makes little sense is how Toyota wants every single one of their models to become hybrid and at the same time they want to make their hybrids distinct from their other models. A very evident contradiction indeed.
Source: Automotive News (needs a subscription)
Ahhhh, yes, driving in my yellow Carrera S Cab with the top down is reason enough to have a perpetual grin.
But, that Cayman, as beautiful as it is, desperately needs a sunroof... Porsche has no legitimate excuse for omitting it, as the car begs for one, and truy deserves it.
:shades:
TagMan
Makes sense to me. The Hollywood types want a car that screams "I drive a hybrid". The Camry, Accord and Civic hybrids don't do that. The Prius name has become almost as synonymous with hybrid cars as the Sony Walkman did with portable cassette players. Obviously Toyota is looking to repeat that kind of market takeover with the Lexus brand.
I understand he's a lefty, but if he's the worst lefty on Earth, I don't see the point. :confuse:
I'd trade him for a Fungo Bat. After that, he should be outright released.
It worked for the Giants and Benitez, after we lit him up.
DrFill
Top 5 is nothing to frown about. Lexus is still ballin'.
Just got tired of setting records all the time, that's all. This glass is half-full!
DrFill
And the link:
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TagMan
More pics and information at this link:
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TagMan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Bangle#Design_characteristics
The reference is gone.
Such is the reliability of Wikipedia as an authorative source of information. ;-)
Terrific catch on Wikipedia.
TagMan
I think initially yes, but it stands to reason that the TDI will come very soon therafter, don't you think?
TagMan
The whole TLC seems cheesy to me. I do believe that the Lexus version will get to feature all the goodies.
TagMan
For example, a Volvo looks nothing like the 7-series. A Cadillac looks nothing like it, and a Subaru or Saab look nothing like it. Yet, if you gray out the smaller details of the LS460 and take a look at the design shape... it is so very clear that they are indeed very similar. Heck, you could trace one on top of another and see just how close they are!
The LS460 is clearly a derivative of the BMW 7-Series... there's just no way around it. That LS460 rear is NOTHING like the previous LS430 and it's no coincidence that the new look is Bangled. It's absurd to think that it is a coincidence.
TagMan
It is not a coincidence! It is due to Chris Bangle's influence... and that influence spread to Lexus... as can be clearly seen.
TagMan
Yeah the interior of the LX570 is far better, up there with the X5 and Q7. Most of Toyota's newest interiors just seem strange to me, and that yellow plastic wood in the Camry and Highlander is awful.
Oh, and make it dark silver.
It looks so much better than the imitation plastic wood found in the Camry LE and MDX.
Cases in point: The Honda Accord Coupe and the Camry SE. No wood, yet very nice interiors.
Now get back there and retool!! :mad:
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Further into the link (thanks again) when talking about the engines, it was stated that ALL the engines would be introduced WORLDWIDE at the same time. I hope this means diesels in the U.S. fairly soon.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
I have already seen the TLC, in White, and I'm diggin' it. Evolutionary. Distinctive. And the inside is also a mild upgrade, but it's obvious the LX will show you a $10k difference in interior style.
What's important is 381 HP.
Regarding the LS, I've already gone over that. It's a 7-series, if it was done right.
Lexus is really a combination of many ideals, just done better.
An Mercedes with semi-precious, not precious, pricing. With more tasteful, intuitive interiors. A more friendly demeanor.
An Acura with more cylinders, better marketing, a broader portfolio.
If you blend those two companies together, you get Lexus, more or less.
Just add in higher quality than either and away we go.
The market seems to like what they're doing with the LS.
Mercedes shouldn't be too thrilled. And BMW is P.O'd! :mad:
DrFill
You put him way back on the baseline, setting him up for that beautiful drop shot! Heh! Heh!
The Chris Bangle 7 Series is indeed the best selling 7 Series ever!
BMW and Chris Bangle:
Often copied. Never equalled!
It is so shameless! I wonder if BMW could sue? I mean, the entire design was lifted. I guess not, or they would have done it by now. :shades:
Despite the above fact the BMW 7 series in North America has never ever been a top ranked seller and it never will be. North American high end luxury sedan buyers are not so keen about performance/handling as owners are with smaller cars. They are more keen about a car that emphasizes a softer and more cozy version of luxury than brutal performance. And that is exactly why the Lexus LS remains number one.
A new generation 7 series twin turbo V8 with over 500HP and monstrous torque is going to become the most exciting high end luxury sedan available in the upcoming years. BUT that in itself is just not good enough for us North Americans.
Makes me wonder how the Porsche Panamera will sell in North America? If its too sporty with too much road-feel it may scare the hell out of many luxury car owners in North America.
Interetingly L-Finesse is not all about Lexus. It is also about Toyota and that is why the Camry's styling is quite indistinguishable from the Lexus ES and LS.
Unfortunately for the BMW 7 series there is a little thing out there in the automotive world called...COMPETITION from other luxury makes like the Lexus LS and Mercedes S class. And compared to them, yes, it was, and is, a big sales flop. I hope that puts my question in a little better perspective for you. :shades:
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
I'm discouraed.
That will change after the blitz that's coming to TV, radio and the print media.
People will learn and then people will buy.
How can anybody resist the combo of a gorgeous Bangle-designed BMW married to an award winning, clean, powerful, efficient BMW diesel engine?
Short answer: They won't!
Quite amazing, the influence Chris has had on the automotive design community worldwide. What's next?
Regarding the diesels, hpowders, I agree that once the word is out... through all the powerful media, including newspapers, internet, television, radio, auto rags, and point-of-display, the response to new cleaner and quiter and more powerful diesels will be overwhelming.
I think the response will be so positive that I would expect shortages of the more popular diesel vehicles, which unfortunately could result in dealers charging premiums.
TagMan