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Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?
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People never plug the other costs into the equation, like waste storage or tailings removal or health problems caused by burning the fuel.
Then there are the unintended consequences that are always fun. (NPR)
Idaho was cheap; lots of hydro there.
Annual Average Electricity Price Comparison by State (neo.ne.gov)
Or, I can put a sign on it that says $10 and it will be gone in minutes.
We live in a neighborhood at the "end" of the city and it's very isolated and there's no through-way in it that would cause people to drive through unless they live here. We had a never-used, still in box bathroom sink/countertop and put it out there for 2 days and no one took it. I watched when the trash truck came, and the guy did at least put it in the cab instead of the cruncher.
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Reminds me of the magistrate scene(s) of British movie satires like, "Oh Lucky Man" from the 70's.
My opinion is GL, CC or whatever it's fashionable to label it next, is merely a component of the greater (and actually greatest) evil which is Agenda 21.
The more people that investigate the tentacles of A21 will have a "light bulb" (sorry, couldn't help myself) go off in their heads...
And, no it is not partisan; rather it crosses all political affiliations:
http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/
We're just in the stage now where we're trying to figure if there's anything we can do about it and what it'll cost if we do (or if we can afford not to do anything).
Exxon CEO downplays climate, energy fears (azcentral.com)
No need to go searching for boogie-men when there's one already on the block.
8% of state in moderate drought as dry June follows record spring temperatures (Detroit News)
(The recent Duck Lake fire in the eastern Upper Peninsula was 21,069 acres!)
Heh, just looked at Drudge. Nice photo accompanying that "118° in Kansas" screamer headline.
Or are we headed for a full blown depression complete with a Dustbowl drought in the heartland? 1934 was a hot dry one I believe.
Put solar panels on all the greens. :shades:
Tillerson, speaking to the Council on Foreign Relations, blamed a public that is "illiterate" in science and math, a "lazy" press, and advocacy groups that "manufacture fear" for energy misconceptions.
He seems to have a good handle on our energy situation.
I'm 16 miles NW of Boston. 2 years ago our town made changes to our existing recycling/trash collection.
Each home was issued a 65 gallon trash "toter" which is picked up every week by a single person truck. If the trash isn't in the toter, you have to pay for special orange bags so the driver knows to get out of the truck to pick it up. We changed our recycling from alternate weeks of paper and plastic to full pickup every week. The plan is to go to single stream recycling in the next year.
For our family of four, I put out perhaps a 1/4 full toter, a standard trash barrel for paper and a small bin for plastic and glass every week. Keep in mind, MA has returnable bottles and cans so very little goes curbside.
Our town picks up white goods as well as CRT's and TV's. Yard waste is picked up every weekend in the spring and fall and once a month during the summer. Twice a year we have a hazardous waste day. All of this is done at no charge.
Going to the toter saved the town $200K the first year in trash removal costs and making recycling easier eliminated $70K in tipping fees and earned the town $60K in income from the sale of the recycled material.
But, you gotta be kidding us, right, with this "Agenda 21 "OBLIGATIONS? " statement?? WTF are you talking about. We have no "obligations".
If you're actually serious, please move to FrogLand or anywhere else in Europe. You're FREE {get it?} to lower YOUR lifestyle all you want, but don't tell me (or anyone else for that matter) to do the same.
Also, and perhaps more appropriately, educate yourself about the insidious threat A21 poses to all of us. Use the link I supplied in my previous post. I must ask do you know what Liberty and self determination is? Do you believe in them?
I can't tell if you were trying to be facetious, with the "cool" Emotorcons you inserted at the end of your first paragraph, since there is no "roll eyes/sarcastic" one to choose. If so, please ignore the above and accept my heartfelt apology. But you've hit a nerve here.
Trust me we are on the same side. I just am not a fan of the game of golf, and see the water shortages as a serious problem in many places around the USA.
Hey forum hosts, can we get a couple of new Emotorcons e.g. rolleyes, laughing out lout, funnypost, chill pill, eek, +1. j/k, etc. etc.
Thanks!
I think the plan is giant farms with migrant workers. bused to work living in government housing. Warehousing votes is the term I think best describes the plan.
The only Americans who I could possibly imagine being for A21 are those who are already very low on the totem pole. Because they are failures, they want to drag everyone else down to their level.
The U.S. is the most successful country in the history of the world. The rest of the world should be emulating us, not trying to drag us down to their level.
Hopefully, people in the U.S. and the rest of the world will continue to get just what they work for and deserve, nothing more, nothing less.
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Though I do applaud him for getting his blows in anyway with statements e.g.: manufactured fear by advocacy groups, lazy press, an illiterate public as far as math and science goes, et cetera.
For example, Supreme Court: CO2 a pollutant (Marketplace). They said the EPA had the right to regulate greenhouse gases.
There's another one in the last year or two where the EPA's right to regulate coal-fired power plants (not the states) was upheld. I'm sure there's plenty of others where EPA's powers to regulate were upheld. And guess what they are basing their regs on - yep, laws passed by Congress, like the Clean Air Act. Good luck trying to repeal that. You may as well try to outlaw apple pie, motherhood and Chevrolet. Lots of us like breathing clean air and drinking clean water.
I think Exxon has plenty of legal talent available to them btw.
Here's a little primer by Richard Rothschild, a 2011 Maryland regular guy who got pissed about it, exposed it, got elected (along with others) and defunded ICLEI in his county.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjqgdWcKLlk
He has a longer interview you can find on the web wherein he tells the host how he got involved. It's very informative and a must watch.
Enjoy your 4th! Maybe I'll take a drive down Ron Paul's Interstate 35.
The reality of the UN stealing our sovereignty is the issue. As many have said here we have cleaner air than much of Europe, so why do we listen to them on environmental issues? It is about losing our standard of living to satisfy the Limousine Liberals that want to rule the World from their Villas.
I don't know what you mean by "listening" to the Europeans. We're a big melting pot and have been stealing good (and bad) ideas from the rest of the world for 236 years now (and yeah, had to do the math).
Our problem now is having elected officials that, unlike Nixon and the EPA formation days, won't work together on the issues.
Carbon Dioxide a pollutant?!? It is the plant world's oxygen. Decreeing it so is absurd and if it weren't so tragic would be comical.
It's "rulings" like those that are an example of a de jure government replaced by a de facto one.
Don't misunderstand me. I don't want dirty air and water either.
If you don't want dirty air and water, someone is going to have to regulate how we keep it clean. You can trust Exxon or you can trust the United Nations or you can trust the EPA. Or we can go back to the old days where individuals had to sue the polluters and hope the judge didn't play golf with the chemical company owners.
The EPA seems the lesser of the evils.
Erin Brockovich seems to have plenty of work though.
Oh, back to CO2, "The EPA's finding doesn't say carbon dioxide, or CO2, is by itself a pollutant -- it is, after all, a gas that humans exhale and plants inhale. Rather, it is the increasing concentrations of the gas that concern the agency."
How Carbon Dioxide Became a 'Pollutant' (WSJ)
In a narrow 5-4 decision in 2007, the US Supreme Court authorized the EPA to consider the greenhouse gas CO2 as a 'pollutant' under the terms of the Clean Air Act -- provided EPA could demonstrate that CO2 posed a threat to human health and welfare.
As my CEI colleague Marlo Lewis relates, the EPA's Inspector General (IG) released a report in September 2011, finding that EPA did not meet applicable federal Information (or Data) Quality Act (IQA) standards when developing the TSD. The IG argued that the TSD is a "highly influential scientific assessment," and therefore should have been subjected to the most rigorous form of peer review. EPA fell short of the mark by not publishing the comments of the agency's 12-member peer-review panel, and by placing an EPA employee on the panel, compromising its independence.
After all of the responses and briefs are filed, the Court may issue a decision around mid-2012.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/epas_co2_endangerment_finding_is_endanger- ed.html
Speaking of warming...what's that? Another cool day here.
Do we need any GW links to carry us through the holiday?
Colorado wildfires are 'what global warming really looks like' (csmonitor.com)
Melting permafrost causing rockslides, endangering town (softpedia.com)
In Norfolk, Va. the sea level has jumped a total of 4.8 inches since 1990 (cleveland.com)
Death Valley heat in Kansas (csmonitor.com)
Now, the states could under their enumerated powers.
Once again, do not misunderstand. I think there should be clean air and water and the like. Just leave it up to each state to set it up and implement it in their jurisdiction.
Let me know when you figure out how to keep Los Angeles smog from drifting from their jurisdiction into Nevada.
Citizens have been saying that since the Aaron Burr days and we keep muddling along just fine. What melting down may be occurring is due to the record heat wave. (Voice of America)
I don't think the Constitution was written to be a static document. It's too general for that - it lays down broad principles and leaves it to the courts and the Congress to accommodate changing times.
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/intelligent-energy/us-approves-wind-power-for-1-- million-homes/17246?tag=nl.e660
A headwind of renewable power is approaching. The U.S. Interior Department has completed an environmental review for a massive wind farm that has the potential to power up to 1 million homes and cleared the way for more offshore development.
Yesterday, the government announced that environmental reviews had been completed for Wyoming’s Chokecherry and Sierra Madre Wind Farm, which could become the U.S’s largest project with up to 1,000 turbines.
“When it comes to wind energy, we’re making significant progress both onshore and offshore to diversify our nation’s domestic energy portfolio and stand up a clean energy economy,” Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar said.
The farms would produce 3,000-megawatts and be managed by Power Company of Wyoming, and will be built at an estimated cost of US$4B-$6B. Half of the turbines will be located on public lands. The utility has forecast a regional economic benefit.
Assessments were also completed for the Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) offshore Rhode Island and Massachusetts. The ability to develop on the OCS, combined with cheaper turbines, could lead to a boom for the wind industry.
“Today, as we take the next steps toward realizing what could be the largest wind energy project in the world and holding a competitive offshore wind lease sale, we are really at the forefront of a renewable energy revolution,” Salazar added.
Did you forget (or not know in the first place) they are still "nation states" as when the original 13 began?
Got any global warming news (hopefully related to automobiles)?
Had a couple of dead dehumidifiers a couple of years ago. Garbage pickup company would not take under any circumstance nor dollar pickup fee. Called around and found a metal salvage facility, "junkyard", that accepted these. Drove these in with my van, unloaded to a huge pile of scrap as they directed me. No charge.
Gary, I doubt that very many people have an electric car as their "only" ride.
And if they do, I guess they just do whatever they would do if they had a "fossil fuel powered" vehicle which is out of service - public transportation, bum rides from friend and family, rent a car, etc.
Wind and solar just have not panned out. If we are going to continue spending taxpayer dollars we need to find something new that does work.
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Or the people appointed and blessed by elected officials. Such as a Cabinet Member of our current Administration that wanted to put his boot on the neck of BP rather than working with them. Or another high level EPA person, appointed by the Administration, that told his people to CRUCIFY companies, especially oil companies.
There are a lot of solar and wind success stories.
Ans as far as "taxpayer dollars," worry about that when oil subsidies and the associated tax breaks are ended.
We taxpayers give FAR more money away to Big Oil than we do to Green Solar or Green Wind.