Mazda now has 0% for 60 months on all 08 CX-9's or you can take a $4,250 rebate. Today is the first day of Chase as being the financial arm of Mazda. Mazda will be also using Ford Motor Credit for 15 more days until all dealers are signed on with Chase.
I had a deal give me a good price last month on an 08 CX-9 but it was still around $1500 more than I had budgeted. He said he had given me every dollar he could but called on the 1st to say that Mazda was now offering additional cash. Anyone have any idea how much it is? Thanks!
"He said he had given me every dollar he could but called on the 1st to say that Mazda was now offering additional cash. "
Did he give you a new price or was it just a generic message?
None of the dealers I spoke with last month called back on with any new offers. The local dealer here, Royal Motors, was a complete jerk when he couldnt match/beat a lower offer from one his competitors. I posted a review of this dealership. Anyhow, I have my fingers crossed that this will be the month for a better deal because of the awful sales numbers for Sept. Thanks,
His original quote was for 7000 under MSRP for a pretty basic Touring model. He came back saying he may be able to get $500 more. I needed more like $1500, so we'll see what happens. Was curious if Mazda gave another $1000 or so and he was keeping some for himself.
I'll reply to myself. Ended up buying a GT with Bose/Sunroof for 8500 under MSRP at a dealership in Cincinnati. Very easy to work with and a fairly smooth process once we agreed on the price.
Congrats dooky! I had exchanged emails with several dealers in Houston for the past couple months. A couple had offered $9 - 10K below msrp, but never had anything firm with them. $8500 sounds right in the hunt.
Just bought a new 2008 CX-9 GT MSRP: $34,205 for $10,000 off. It was $25,947 out the door. Very easy transaction, asked for best drive out price and was told pick any CX-9 on the lot, take $10,000 off and add TT&L. It was that easy, no hassle. Dealership was Russell and Smith. Dealt with Internet Sales manager Roy Howard. Very happy with it.
Just bought a new 2008 CX-9 GT MSRP: $34,205 for $10,000 off. It was $25,947 out the door. Very easy transaction, asked for best drive out price and was told pick any CX-9 on the lot, take $10,000 off and add TT&L. It was that easy, no hassle. Dealership was Russell and Smith. Dealt with Internet Sales manager Roy Howard. Very happy with it.
Congrats! It's pretty amazing how the TX area dealers are offering 10k off msrp for any 08 CX-9s. The dealers up here in Northern California will only go that route with a few fully loaded GTs. Anything below a GT seems to only get you max approx 6000 to 7000 off msrp - and that's with the Costco buying program.
Why aren't they serving the Kool-aide up here in Norcal?
Congrats sel0511... I had almost the exact same experience with them a couple days ago, but on the CX-7.
"Pick any 08 CX-7 we have, and take $7K off." Ended up with a base sport for $17K + TTL! As simple as that. No reqd add-ons, etc. Was in-and-out in less than 30 minutes!
Curious, did you opt for the Total Care MEPP? I went ahead and did the 10 yr / 100K for $1300. For add'l accessories, I purchased from Med Center Mazda on the net. They sell for 22 - 25% off list, and no tax / free shipping.
On parts and accessories, Wayne Mazda may actually have better prices than Med Center Mazda. However, if you take S&H into account, the latter may be cheaper. So, it makes sense to cross shop both sites. Just FYI.
I am in Houston and is looking at a CX-9 also. Congratulate on your new cars. Just a few questions.
1. Did you just go to Russell and Smith and ask for Roy Howard? or did you ask them to bid though internet first?
2. If they offers $10k off the MSRP, didn't they inflate the MSRP first?
3. How do you know if any new cars in Houston had not being flooded before due to the hurricane ike?
4. Mazda is also offering 0% financing for 60 months. To get the $10k off, I assume that means you can't get the financing deal. Do you have to buy with cash? Can you borrow the money from your bank?
5. How reliable do you think this car is? consumer report has average to below average while JD Power has a rating a 9. Which one do you think is right?
I did all my negotiating online with six different dealerships in the Houston area. Russell and Smith and also Munday mazda offered $10,000 off MSRP. R&S just had the color I wanted. No inflation of the MSRP. Other dearlerships that could not match the price were accusing them of that, but the MSRP on the sticker was exactly what I expectrd after researching online and comparing to other dealerships. No 0% APR if you take the dealer incentive. I would advise you to go in with your own financing(make them have to beat something). It also gives you leverage in negotiating prices of the warranties. They really want you to finance through them and buy a warranty. Did not like the finance games here. Although after arguing with the guy about APR and warrany prices I got the 100,000 mile total care package for 1495 and a 5.75% APR. My problem came when he could magically change my APR from their bank in order to sell the warranty. They are obviously marking up the APR you are approved for by their bank. He actually got out his commisions book and was looking at how he could get me to finance through them and buy a warranty and still make a decent commision. His comment was " we have to make money somehow." Even if you do not want the warranty, act like you do and negotiate a lower APR, then back out of the warranty at the end. Not sure of the legality of the games they play with the APR. EVERYTHING is NEGOTIABLE.
That is a lot of information there. That was really helpful. I have a few more questions.
When you negotiate online between several dealerships, do you forward the email from one sales person to another to prove you have a better deal? I wonder if that is something ethical to do.
I lives in Clear Lake city, I am not going to Russel and Smith to do any repair work. Therefore, I don't think that extended warranty will do me any good. But why do you feel the need to pay extra for the extended warranty? Is it because you think Mazda's reliability is not that good?
The extended warranty is a mazda product and you can have your vehicle serviced at any Mazda dealership. I usually keep my vehicles 8-10 years, that is why I got the extended warranty. Never owned a mazda before, only time will tell their reliability. As for forwarding emails, only Joe Myers and Clear Lake Mazda wanted me to prove it. I sent them the offer. I don't see it being any different then driving from dealership to dealership with written offers.
Sel / Lock ~ I concur with all the comments Sel provided. I did shop various dealers via email, etc, but R&S actually posted a 1/4 page ad in the Houston paper that I was going to get them to follow through on. The offer they advertised was better than any quotes I had received. I did not mention the ad when I arrived, but the sales person offered the same info upfront in-person, so no haggling was req'd.
re: financing - I did not finance, so returned to sign / take delivery w/ a certified check based on the initial sales paperwork... Did this just in case they tried to pull any last minute monkey business ("btw, we add $500 to all cars for Lojack, etc"). I was fully prepared to turn around and walk out. Turns out the paperwork went off w/o a hitch.
sel~ Definitley looks like they played games with the APR / Warranty price. Their warranty pitch to me was, "If you buy warranty tonight, we'll discount the warranty to $100 over cost, or $1300 for the 10 yr/100K warranty." I figured that comes out to about $130/year to cover pretty much everything, so I pulled the trigger. Plus, the warranty is transferrable, so will help should we go to sell. I shopped the warranty online afterwards, since we have 2 days to cancel. Turns out dealers offering "discounts" on the warranty were all around $1300, so I think the price R&S offered was in the hunt. Also looks like the warranty price fluctuates with financing.
Drove by Capital Mazda in Raleigh today, a row of 20 CX-9 in various trims had "up to $8000 off MSRP" slapped on them.
The inspection stickers on the windshields are showing that all of them have been sitting on the lot for over 6 months now. That was curious since I would have hoped to see at least some units with a sticker from Aug/Sep/Oct, but none.
Maybe people are giving preference to buying the more recent units, or maybe Mazda just stopped delivering them after the dealer ran out of space on their lot, but my question is whether anyone knows the effect of leaving a vehicle exposed to the elements without regular usage or special care (leather surfaces, interior exposed to 100o. sun throughout the entire day with closed windows, stale engine fluids, electronic parts, exterior pain, dried up tires, etc) ?
I know $8K is a lot of money, and I know there is warranty, but I wonder if it may be sufficient to compensate for whatever "damage" is being done to those vehicles sitting there for so long.
$10K? that is going to be some negotiation. :-) I guess they will only be that desperate by November, when the 09s start to roll in with mild incentives.
Responses (albeit brief) are below... issues with sitting out on the lot? only one comes to mind.... a possible dead battery that needs a jump.
$10K? that is going to be some negotiation. i disagree... I have had numerous offers from dealers for $10k off msrp on remaining 08's. This may vary regionally, and by dealer, but this offer required NO negotiation.
I guess they will only be that desperate by November, when the 09s start to roll in ummm.... 09's have been on the lot now for about a month or more! And yes, the same dealer(s) who offered $10k off 08's were/are also offering incentives on the 09's.
ummm.... 09's have been on the lot now for about a month or more! And yes, the same dealer(s) who offered $10k off 08's were/are also offering incentives on the 09's.
That is curious, because this dealer no only didn't have *any* 09's in stock, but the 08's were all from April and May. Can a dealer put a stop on new arrivals of a certain model? I know they all come by sea from Japan, so I guess it would make sense.
As for the issues with car sitting on the parking lot, I did more research and some car magazines pointed the dead battery you mentioned, which may need a replacement after so many months (long periods of discharge tend to ruin batteries). They also mentioned "squared off" tires and the problem of "dried up" tires on the inside because the rubber is not flexed by regular usage.
The other thing that comes to mind is oil change, since motor oil is supposed to expire by mileage or time, usually six months.
Battery and oil changes are minor, but the 20" tires on a GT cost about $1K a set, that is the part that worries me the most.
I believe the paint comes with some sort of protective thick coating, not so much with the insulation in the door guards and the internal surfaces baking in the sun.
Well, built date is on the door sticker. Find one that was most recently built. Flat spotting is less an issue since most vehicles came over-inflated to >40 psi. Tires can last more than 6 years before rubber starts to show cracks. I would ask for an free oil change (before delivery) if it has been sitting for more than 6 months in the lot.
I am in the market right now and have received quotes from multiple dealerships. I want the 0% APR financing deal and I was wondering if anyone else in Houston area has any information. This is what they offered. $4250 or 0% APR
I bought a CX-9 a couple months ago and it sat on the lot for a couple of months and as long as you get it from a mazda dealer I would not worry about it. Just check the dealership against the BBB. When I bought my car I got a letter from the salesman, the owner of the dealership, the head mechanic, and 2 letters from people in mazda. Then they sent me a survey and told me if I had any problem to contact them. If you do feel a little iffy about it have their mechanic look at it or your personal mechanic take a look at it. But it is under warrenty the tires to so I wouldnt worry about it just enjoy the best SUV on the road.
One local dealer offered $8500 off-MSRP and another offered $9000 off-MSRP, both from GT models listed at $40K. 7K may be just as good depending on the model you are looking into.
A new car loses around 15-20% of its value in its first year, which makes the same kind of discount almost mandatory on 08 models versus their 09 counterparts. If you plan on driving it to the ground or stay with it for more than 3 years, the 08 with that kind of discount seems a much better deal; by 2011 the price difference between the two will be probably less than 3K
If I planned on keeping it for 2-3 years only, I would go for a lease, assuming one can still get one.
That is all assuming there are no incentives for the 09s, which is probably not the case.
I don't think they can inflate the MSRP. Dealership inventories and prices are available on the Mazda USA web site. When people discuss getting 10k off MSRP are they including packages and accessories, or is it off the model and trim price?
1212 of 1213 Re: Easy Negotiating in Houston, Texas [lockloop] by billyk1 Oct 14, 2008 (7:37 pm) Replying to: lockloop (Oct 10, 2008 3:06 pm)
I don't think they can inflate the MSRP. Dealership inventories and prices are available on the Mazda USA web site. When people discuss getting 10k off MSRP are they including packages and accessories, or is it off the model and trim price?
I think it all depends on the dealer offer. The 08 GTs that are at 41k msrp are fully loaded with all those bells and whistles. Most of the norcal dealers are only offering 9k~10k off these fully loaded GT's. They are not pricing any 08 Sports with those discounts....yet. Imagine 10k off of a basic 08 CX-9 Sport...that'd be an awesome ~21 or 22k +TTL price...equivalent to an 08 CX-7.
Imagine 10k off of a basic 08 CX-9 Sport...that'd be an awesome ~21 or 22k +TTL price...equivalent to an 08 CX-7.
fishhhop... definitely think it's a regional offer. in houston, i was offered 10k off ANY cx-9 back as far back as labor day. after labor day, those same dealers were, and still are offering $9K off ANY 08 cx-9's.
fyi~ those same dealers are also offering $7K off ANY 08 cx-7. last week i picked up a 08 base cx-7 with no options for $17K + ttl!! sweet!
1215 of 1215 Re: Easy Negotiating in Houston, Texas [fishhoppa] by derrickson Oct 15, 2008 (6:51 am) Replying to: fishhoppa (Oct 14, 2008 11:39 pm)
fishhhop... definitely think it's a regional offer. in houston, i was offered 10k off ANY cx-9 back as far back as labor day. after labor day, those same dealers were, and still are offering $9K off ANY 08 cx-9's.
fyi~ those same dealers are also offering $7K off ANY 08 cx-7. last week i picked up a 08 base cx-7 with no options for $17K + ttl!! sweet!
Derrickson - Gotta love the people of Texas. Big cars and BIG discounts!! You're definitely right on the regional thing. Unfortunately, some norcal dealers act as if they're doing you the favor with the lesser discounts on the lower trim models. Congrats on the cx-7!! I don't even think you can get a base CRV or RAV4 for that $17k price and besides, the cx-7 looks waaaaaaay better!
1206 of 1216 Re: Easy Negotiating in Houston, Texas [fishhoppa] by claireb Oct 13, 2008 (10:01 am) Replying to: fishhoppa (Oct 09, 2008 7:15 pm)
Are you near Hayward Mazda? We got a really good deal through the internet department with them
Hi Claireb - Missed seeing your note earlier.(sorry). I havent been to Hayward Mazda yet. Just checked the mazdausa inventory system and it says they have 31 08 cx-9s sitting in inventory. Gotta be wondering when the fire sale is going to happen cause those '09s are already showing up on the mazda site. Going to wait until end of month and see what's advertised in the papers.
I took delivery of a CX-9 08 GT yesterday. $30K for a GT (gt package, rses, remote start, roof rail, blind spot, wheel locks) listed for 40K. Raleigh-NC area.
It only had 7 miles on the odo and was manufactured on Feb/08, so I can understand why the price drop. I am not a good negotiator, but my wife not wanting the car made all the difference (long story, she is happy now that she drove it back home.)
There were a couple of units "used by the owner's wife" with 5000+ miles on them, where I believe one could try and go for $1K or $2K less.
I am trying to find a white CX-9 with only two options, the roof rail and a towing package. I use the mazdausa site to look for inventory. I expand my search to 250miles and is still not able to find one car with these combination. My questions are
1. can the roof rail be installed by dealer? or installed by third party? Will that cause leaks if installed by third party?
2. Does the touring or grand touring have roof rail as its standard option?
3. Is the towing package includes bigger radiator, etc., in addition to just a hitch?
4. Can the towing package be installed by the dealer? I assume the towing can be increased from 2000lb to 3500 lb?
5. Does the touring or grand touring trim have towing as its standard option?
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1. It most certainly can be installed by a Mazda dealer. In the Mazda website, check "Shopping tools -> Accessories". I believe it is $250 + labor and I am almost sure it doesn't seem to need any drilling as it gets attached to standard latch points in roof.
2. Neither has it standard
3. Towing package also includes a larger transmission radiator and remapped engine module.
4. I doubt it.
5. No, it is not standard on either. It is a $500 option.
lockloop, My answers (slightly different from other's) 1. The installation of roof rail is very easy. It took less than 20 minutes. Anyone that can use a screw driver can install it. Watch out for the trim pieces. Don't snap them on with brute force. No, it does not cause any leak since the existing holes are covered by plastic pieces. It is not better or worse. 2. Roof rail is an accessory to all models (try mazdaparts.org for best price) 3. Towing package includes - larger transmission cooler (not larger transmission) - larger capacity of radiator - towing hitch and wiring - remapped programming to handle towing 4. No. Too much work involved. No dealer will do it for you. One can install an aftermarket hitch easily (30 minute job with ~$150 cost) 5. For 2009, the tow package is now standard on GT AWD model
No. The standard back mirror has neither. It is an accessory that one can have it installed at port and delivered to the dealer (accessories are NOT installed by Mazda, they are done at the entry port). One can also buy the kit and install it oneself (like me). Try mazdaparts.org for best price. The installation is about 30 minutes. It is slightly more involved than the roof rail.
There are many different combinations of autodimming, Homelink, compass. Again, go to mazdaparts.org (click on CX9 tab, and then, electronics). Each model needs an installation kit (the kit must matches the model you buy). If your vehicle come with rain-sensing (I assume it is GT), then, you would need a kit that can accommodate rain sensor, which is next to the back mirror.
Auto-dimming: (run on switch 12V). It dims down the mirror when the difference of lighting between front and back is big. It can go very very dark to avoid glare.
Homelink: It can learn the codes (jumping or not) of your garage openers so that you don't need to carry then anymore. The Homelink runs on constant 12V (not switched - i.e. engine power needs not be on)
Compass: some models of back mirrors also have an electronic compass (show 8 directions, N, S, W, E, SE, SW, NE, NW).
Rain sensing: the sensor to activate wipers is located at the root of back mirror. Other than that, it has nothing to do with back mirror.
So is rain sense standard on CX9 or only if I get the autodim mirror?
Basically, I can find vehicles with the options I want other than the homelink. I don't mind installing myself, but I don't want to loss any options like the rainsense.
Not sure if rainsense is installed if you don't get the mirror option from the factory.
thanks for your answers. I guess I am not going to order the roof rack option since I can install it myself.
For the towing option, I don't see any dealer has many CX-9 with that option. Ordering a CX-9 with a towing option will severely limit my choice of the dealerships, and therefore, limits my ability to negotiate prices.
With the factory towing option, I can tow 3500lb. Without it, hopefully, I can tow 2000lb. It shall be ok for a small boat (like 16 or 18 feet aluminum jon boat with trailer). But I still need the hitch and wire extension set.
I did some checking, and I find the following place that sells hitch specifically for CX9. See the following web site: link title
It even have instructions and it can be found here: link title
The instruction seems extremely easy. However, it only covers the hitch. It says nothing about the wire extension. Does anybody know where can I can the wire extension and if CX-9 has the wire pre-routed to the back of the car?
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Did he give you a new price or was it just a generic message?
None of the dealers I spoke with last month called back on with any new offers. The local dealer here, Royal Motors, was a complete jerk when he couldnt match/beat a lower offer from one his competitors. I posted a review of this dealership. Anyhow, I have my fingers crossed that this will be the month for a better deal because of the awful sales numbers for Sept. Thanks,
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Congrats! It's pretty amazing how the TX area dealers are offering 10k off msrp for any 08 CX-9s. The dealers up here in Northern California will only go that route with a few fully loaded GTs. Anything below a GT seems to only get you max approx 6000 to 7000 off msrp - and that's with the Costco buying program.
Why aren't they serving the Kool-aide up here in Norcal?
"Pick any 08 CX-7 we have, and take $7K off." Ended up with a base sport for $17K + TTL!
Curious, did you opt for the Total Care MEPP? I went ahead and did the 10 yr / 100K for $1300. For add'l accessories, I purchased from Med Center Mazda on the net. They sell for 22 - 25% off list, and no tax / free shipping.
I am in Houston and is looking at a CX-9 also. Congratulate on your new cars. Just a few questions.
1. Did you just go to Russell and Smith and ask for Roy Howard? or did you ask them to bid though internet first?
2. If they offers $10k off the MSRP, didn't they inflate the MSRP first?
3. How do you know if any new cars in Houston had not being flooded before due to the hurricane ike?
4. Mazda is also offering 0% financing for 60 months. To get the $10k off, I assume that means you can't get the financing deal. Do you have to buy with cash? Can you borrow the money from your bank?
5. How reliable do you think this car is? consumer report has average to below average while JD Power has a rating a 9. Which one do you think is right?
thanks for your answers,
I did all my negotiating online with six different dealerships in the Houston area. Russell and Smith and also Munday mazda offered $10,000 off MSRP. R&S just had the color I wanted. No inflation of the MSRP. Other dearlerships that could not match the price were accusing them of that, but the MSRP on the sticker was exactly what I expectrd after researching online and comparing to other dealerships. No 0% APR if you take the dealer incentive. I would advise you to go in with your own financing(make them have to beat something). It also gives you leverage in negotiating prices of the warranties. They really want you to finance through them and buy a warranty. Did not like the finance games here. Although after arguing with the guy about APR and warrany prices I got the 100,000 mile total care package for 1495 and a 5.75% APR. My problem came when he could magically change my APR from their bank in order to sell the warranty. They are obviously marking up the APR you are approved for by their bank. He actually got out his commisions book and was looking at how he could get me to finance through them and buy a warranty and still make a decent commision. His comment was " we have to make money somehow." Even if you do not want the warranty, act like you do and negotiate a lower APR, then back out of the warranty at the end. Not sure of the legality of the games they play with the APR. EVERYTHING is NEGOTIABLE.
That is a lot of information there. That was really helpful. I have a few more questions.
When you negotiate online between several dealerships, do you forward the email from one sales person to another to prove you have a better deal? I wonder if that is something ethical to do.
I lives in Clear Lake city, I am not going to Russel and Smith to do any repair work. Therefore, I don't think that extended warranty will do me any good. But why do you feel the need to pay extra for the extended warranty? Is it because you think Mazda's reliability is not that good?
thanks
The extended warranty is a mazda product and you can have your vehicle serviced at any Mazda dealership. I usually keep my vehicles 8-10 years, that is why I got the extended warranty. Never owned a mazda before, only time will tell their reliability. As for forwarding emails, only Joe Myers and Clear Lake Mazda wanted me to prove it. I sent them the offer. I don't see it being any different then driving from dealership to dealership with written offers.
Thank you so much for your answers. I felt much more confident to start the buying process now. I gained a lot of insight from this exchange.
I concur with all the comments Sel provided. I did shop various dealers via email, etc, but R&S actually posted a 1/4 page ad in the Houston paper that I was going to get them to follow through on. The offer they advertised was better than any quotes I had received. I did not mention the ad when I arrived, but the sales person offered the same info upfront in-person, so no haggling was req'd.
re: financing - I did not finance, so returned to sign / take delivery w/ a certified check based on the initial sales paperwork... Did this just in case they tried to pull any last minute monkey business ("btw, we add $500 to all cars for Lojack, etc"). I was fully prepared to turn around and walk out. Turns out the paperwork went off w/o a hitch.
sel~ Definitley looks like they played games with the APR / Warranty price. Their warranty pitch to me was, "If you buy warranty tonight, we'll discount the warranty to $100 over cost, or $1300 for the 10 yr/100K warranty." I figured that comes out to about $130/year to cover pretty much everything, so I pulled the trigger. Plus, the warranty is transferrable, so will help should we go to sell. I shopped the warranty online afterwards, since we have 2 days to cancel. Turns out dealers offering "discounts" on the warranty were all around $1300, so I think the price R&S offered was in the hunt. Also looks like the warranty price fluctuates with financing.
The inspection stickers on the windshields are showing that all of them have been sitting on the lot for over 6 months now. That was curious since I would have hoped to see at least some units with a sticker from Aug/Sep/Oct, but none.
Maybe people are giving preference to buying the more recent units, or maybe Mazda just stopped delivering them after the dealer ran out of space on their lot, but my question is whether anyone knows the effect of leaving a vehicle exposed to the elements without regular usage or special care (leather surfaces, interior exposed to 100o. sun throughout the entire day with closed windows, stale engine fluids, electronic parts, exterior pain, dried up tires, etc) ?
I know $8K is a lot of money, and I know there is warranty, but I wonder if it may be sufficient to compensate for whatever "damage" is being done to those vehicles sitting there for so long.
Go for 10K off MSRP!
Good Luck!
issues with sitting out on the lot?
only one comes to mind.... a possible dead battery that needs a jump.
$10K? that is going to be some negotiation.
i disagree... I have had numerous offers from dealers for $10k off msrp on remaining 08's. This may vary regionally, and by dealer, but this offer required NO negotiation.
I guess they will only be that desperate by November, when the 09s start to roll in
ummm.... 09's have been on the lot now for about a month or more! And yes, the same dealer(s) who offered $10k off 08's were/are also offering incentives on the 09's.
That is curious, because this dealer no only didn't have *any* 09's in stock, but the 08's were all from April and May. Can a dealer put a stop on new arrivals of a certain model? I know they all come by sea from Japan, so I guess it would make sense.
As for the issues with car sitting on the parking lot, I did more research and some car magazines pointed the dead battery you mentioned, which may need a replacement after so many months (long periods of discharge tend to ruin batteries). They also mentioned "squared off" tires and the problem of "dried up" tires on the inside because the rubber is not flexed by regular usage.
The other thing that comes to mind is oil change, since motor oil is supposed to expire by mileage or time, usually six months.
Battery and oil changes are minor, but the 20" tires on a GT cost about $1K a set, that is the part that worries me the most.
I believe the paint comes with some sort of protective thick coating, not so much with the insulation in the door guards and the internal surfaces baking in the sun.
I'll go for the $10K and see what happens.
Flat spotting is less an issue since most vehicles came over-inflated to >40 psi.
Tires can last more than 6 years before rubber starts to show cracks. I would ask for an free oil change (before delivery) if it has been sitting for more than 6 months in the lot.
I want the 0% APR financing deal and I was wondering if anyone else in Houston area has any information. This is what they offered.
$4250 or 0% APR
A new car loses around 15-20% of its value in its first year, which makes the same kind of discount almost mandatory on 08 models versus their 09 counterparts. If you plan on driving it to the ground or stay with it for more than 3 years, the 08 with that kind of discount seems a much better deal; by 2011 the price difference between the two will be probably less than 3K
If I planned on keeping it for 2-3 years only, I would go for a lease, assuming one can still get one.
That is all assuming there are no incentives for the 09s, which is probably not the case.
Replying to: lockloop (Oct 10, 2008 3:06 pm)
I don't think they can inflate the MSRP. Dealership inventories and prices are available on the Mazda USA web site. When people discuss getting 10k off MSRP are they including packages and accessories, or is it off the model and trim price?
I think it all depends on the dealer offer. The 08 GTs that are at 41k msrp are fully loaded with all those bells and whistles. Most of the norcal dealers are only offering 9k~10k off these fully loaded GT's. They are not pricing any 08 Sports with those discounts....yet. Imagine 10k off of a basic 08 CX-9 Sport...that'd be an awesome ~21 or 22k +TTL price...equivalent to an 08 CX-7.
fishhhop... definitely think it's a regional offer. in houston, i was offered 10k off ANY cx-9 back as far back as labor day. after labor day, those same dealers were, and still are offering $9K off ANY 08 cx-9's.
fyi~ those same dealers are also offering $7K off ANY 08 cx-7. last week i picked up a 08 base cx-7 with no options for $17K + ttl!! sweet!
Replying to: fishhoppa (Oct 14, 2008 11:39 pm)
fishhhop... definitely think it's a regional offer. in houston, i was offered 10k off ANY cx-9 back as far back as labor day. after labor day, those same dealers were, and still are offering $9K off ANY 08 cx-9's.
fyi~ those same dealers are also offering $7K off ANY 08 cx-7. last week i picked up a 08 base cx-7 with no options for $17K + ttl!! sweet!
Derrickson -
Gotta love the people of Texas. Big cars and BIG discounts!! You're definitely right on the regional thing. Unfortunately, some norcal dealers act as if they're doing you the favor with the lesser discounts on the lower trim models. Congrats on the cx-7!! I don't even think you can get a base CRV or RAV4 for that $17k price and besides, the cx-7 looks waaaaaaay better!
Did you get a warranty with the cx?
Replying to: fishhoppa (Oct 09, 2008 7:15 pm)
Are you near Hayward Mazda? We got a really good deal through the internet department with them
Hi Claireb - Missed seeing your note earlier.(sorry). I havent been to Hayward Mazda yet. Just checked the mazdausa inventory system and it says they have 31 08 cx-9s sitting in inventory. Gotta be wondering when the fire sale is going to happen cause those '09s are already showing up on the mazda site. Going to wait until end of month and see what's advertised in the papers.
Thanks for the heads-up!
It only had 7 miles on the odo and was manufactured on Feb/08, so I can understand why the price drop. I am not a good negotiator, but my wife not wanting the car made all the difference (long story, she is happy now that she drove it back home.)
There were a couple of units "used by the owner's wife" with 5000+ miles on them, where I believe one could try and go for $1K or $2K less.
I am trying to find a white CX-9 with only two options, the roof rail and a towing package. I use the mazdausa site to look for inventory. I expand my search to 250miles and is still not able to find one car with these combination. My questions are
1. can the roof rail be installed by dealer? or installed by third party? Will that cause leaks if installed by third party?
2. Does the touring or grand touring have roof rail as its standard option?
3. Is the towing package includes bigger radiator, etc., in addition to just a hitch?
4. Can the towing package be installed by the dealer? I assume the towing can be increased from 2000lb to 3500 lb?
5. Does the touring or grand touring trim have towing as its standard option?
Thanks a lot for your response
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2. Neither has it standard
3. Towing package also includes a larger transmission radiator and remapped engine module.
4. I doubt it.
5. No, it is not standard on either. It is a $500 option.
My answers (slightly different from other's)
1. The installation of roof rail is very easy. It took less than 20 minutes. Anyone that can use a screw driver can install it. Watch out for the trim pieces. Don't snap them on with brute force. No, it does not cause any leak since the existing holes are covered by plastic pieces. It is not better or worse.
2. Roof rail is an accessory to all models (try mazdaparts.org for best price)
3. Towing package includes
- larger transmission cooler (not larger transmission)
- larger capacity of radiator
- towing hitch and wiring
- remapped programming to handle towing
4. No. Too much work involved. No dealer will do it for you.
One can install an aftermarket hitch easily (30 minute job with ~$150 cost)
5. For 2009, the tow package is now standard on GT AWD model
Does the vehicle come with an auto dim mirror standard?
Also, when I look at mazda accessories, I see the mirror can be added, but then it says something about rain sensing.
Can it be installed by the dealer and work&look exactly the same as if installed by factory?
Can someone set me straight on the auto-dim, homelink, rain sense?
thanks
Rob
It is an accessory that one can have it installed at port and delivered to the dealer (accessories are NOT installed by Mazda, they are done at the entry port). One can also buy the kit and install it oneself (like me). Try mazdaparts.org for best price.
The installation is about 30 minutes. It is slightly more involved than the roof rail.
There are many different combinations of autodimming, Homelink, compass. Again, go to mazdaparts.org (click on CX9 tab, and then, electronics). Each model needs an installation kit (the kit must matches the model you buy). If your vehicle come with rain-sensing (I assume it is GT), then, you would need a kit that can accommodate rain sensor, which is next to the back mirror.
Auto-dimming: (run on switch 12V). It dims down the mirror when the difference of lighting between front and back is big. It can go very very dark to avoid glare.
Homelink: It can learn the codes (jumping or not) of your garage openers so that you don't need to carry then anymore. The Homelink runs on constant 12V (not switched - i.e. engine power needs not be on)
Compass: some models of back mirrors also have an electronic compass (show 8 directions, N, S, W, E, SE, SW, NE, NW).
Rain sensing: the sensor to activate wipers is located at the root of back mirror. Other than that, it has nothing to do with back mirror.
I hope this helps you a bit.
So is rain sense standard on CX9 or only if I get the autodim mirror?
Basically, I can find vehicles with the options I want other than the homelink. I don't mind installing myself, but I don't want to loss any options like the rainsense.
Not sure if rainsense is installed if you don't get the mirror option from the factory.
thanks for your answers. I guess I am not going to order the roof rack option since I can install it myself.
For the towing option, I don't see any dealer has many CX-9 with that option. Ordering a CX-9 with a towing option will severely limit my choice of the dealerships, and therefore, limits my ability to negotiate prices.
With the factory towing option, I can tow 3500lb. Without it, hopefully, I can tow 2000lb. It shall be ok for a small boat (like 16 or 18 feet aluminum jon boat with trailer). But I still need the hitch and wire extension set.
I did some checking, and I find the following place that sells hitch specifically for CX9. See the following web site:
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It even have instructions and it can be found here:
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The instruction seems extremely easy. However, it only covers the hitch. It says nothing about the wire extension. Does anybody know where can I can the wire extension and if CX-9 has the wire pre-routed to the back of the car?