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the salesman told me that it was possible to order the leather seats from the dealer and they wil install them... all this for about $1500
sounds pretty steep to me...
i have pulled many a set of seats out of a car so i am wondering if i bought the seats from them and swapped 'em out myself (or had my brother do it at his garage and write me up a receipt) would that void any warrantees?
then the question becomes.... what do i do with the extra seats. haha.
anyone got a connection at a dealer that can get me a price/availability on the beige leather seat set?
kc
Well...1 week went by, then 2, then 3, then 4. Finally, I got my deposit back, went to a delaer who had one on the lot and bought it. If they haven't delivered as promised they have defaulted on there promise of delivery and you are entitled to your deposit [unless you signed some document where there is some fine print which states you are not]. In my case with Toyota, they were trying to "low-ball" me i.e. offer me a price on something they probably never expected and hoped I would settle for something else.
As someone mentioned in earlier posts, if they have it on the lot you're in a realistic buying position otherwise good luck. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on promises. They either have or they don't. If a dealer promises you they will swap with another dealer to get you the car, fine; but if they don't get by the time they promised move on. Also, never leave large deposits. If they're sincere in their efforts $50.00 would do [yes I've left that much as deposit in the past].
One thing one Toyota was also known for was adding some currency fee at the time of pickup. Basically, you bought the car for x dollars and if you were to pick up the car a few days later you'd find they casually added a currency charge to cover a so-called adjustment to the Yen. They claimed the Yen had lost market value and they had to pass the additional cost to the customer [usually around 300.00]. What a racket.
Anyway, I just bought my SF 2 weeks ago. I was at the dealer this weekend 2/24/01 and they had 2 Merlot GL [I believe 1 stick/1 auto], 1 Pewter 4WD V6 [I believe GLS] and 1 Black GL 5 speed. The dealer is in north central NJ.
I don't know where you live, but if you're interested drop me an email.
Hang in there...you'll get one!
The symptom usually happens when you start a car in cold morning and then goes away in a few minutes. If it gets worse, you can smell a burning rubber.
It most like happen on cold weather. There is good CD Player that can play well because the CD Player have good way to protect air and dust getting inside. It is best to have a dealer swap the CD Player for a test. You probably be able to talk with the manager concern about this problem.
2002 Modern Options:
As far as I know there may be a sunroof available on most of the LX modern. As well as the stereo sytem will come with the Tape & CD Combo along with the 8 discs CD changer. (More money those).
Fuel Cell:
Did you know how many mpg if you drive a Santa Fe with a Fuel Cell? About 35-45 mpg on City and 25-34 mpg on Highway. Yes! You get better mile on the city than the hwy. Why? When driving on the city you will probably stop a lots. Each time you stop it charge. However, I am not that the Santa Fe will do exactly the same as the Toyota Hybrid system or not. But that's how the Toyota Hybrid work.
kc
If you live near San Francisco then I would really happy to swap it for you. However, the leather seat in my car is Gray not Beige. You can purchase Beige color available in www.hdkautosport.com.
PROS: AWD, good handling, gas mileage, selectronic transmission, interior seats comfort, relatively roomy interior, fit and finish, ride quality excellent.
CONS: The necessary accessory roof rails sell for $180, carpeted mats for $80!!! Sante Fe mania driving up prices and dealer smugness. I called 25 dealers for availability, most were jerks and not helpful. I hope this isn't indicative of later service!! (Though I like the car, given all the other choices out there( (Tribute, Escape, RAV4, CR, Outback Wagon)) I'm surprised at the mania given unknown SC reliability and Hyundai service quality). Low quality of interior trim pieces in cargo area (little more than cardboard flaps, thin plastic, cheap carpeting and ultra thin glass). If the SF was a Toyota it would sell for and probably be worth $25-27K. But the top of the line plush Hyundai XG300 sells for $25,000. I paid $23K for the SC!! Comparing across different auto maker lines, an OK price. Comparing within the Hyundai line, price seems very high for mediocre interior quality.
Like to hear from other owners of the SF GLS or LX 4X4WD. Did you get a good price or were you caught up in Sante Fe mania? Are you satisfied with service and car performance after 3,6or 12K miles? Thanks much as I'm now questioning my decision in the first few hundred miles after a closer look at at quality and dealer smugness.
Do you have the Cargo Net and the Roof Rack?
I am willing to sell to those who need the Roof Rack and Carpet Mats at wholesale price. The price that the dealer bought in initially. Free shipping as well. Why? I have upgrade my car with the All-Season floor mats and the Roof Rack as well. I no longer need the carpet floor mats and the orginal stock roof rack.
I don't have to much time to surf, I only stick to Edmunds.com since January, but I do think there should have more SF owner group somewhere on the internet. If U know please also let them know our existence so all of the owners can share experience.
W/ Big thks!
Did we get a "good deal?" Remains to be seen as reliability of the vehicle, parts availability, service quality are unknowns to me. Availability of accessories here in the NE seems to be nil as I called 6 dealers for the cargo mat and front/back deflectors. The front deflector is not out yet, don't know why. The other items I wanted, save for the roof rail cross members (without which, I believe, the roof rack is pretty useless). I don't need the carpets or rack, I have these. What all weater mats are you buying? Does anyone know what is the "windshield screen" mentioned in the "included features" list? I don't think I got one?
1) When will brush guards be available?
2) Are step rails available?
3) What is the winshield visor accessory?
4) Does the carbon fiber dash kit come from Hyundai?
5) Any crash test results yet? A BIG UNKNOWN???
6) Why did Hyundai delete side impact bags? They were once on the features list and Cars and Drivers and Edmunds thinks it has side impact bags but it doesn't!!! Lets get Edmunds to clear this up, as buyers may be mislead.
7) Why did Hyundai delete the moonroof in the US but available in Korea???
8) What does "Obsidian" mean as attached to the black color?
Otherwise, enjoying my new Black LX AWD.
Drew
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But, I am sure prices are based on availiablity and supply and demand. Right now dealers can probably get more than what I paid due to a shortage -- especially of the LX with ABS & TRACS.
I love my SF, especially in rain, snow and ice. It's the best vehicle I have ever driven in bad weather. If you really are concerned with the interior quality, etc. I am sure you could quickly sell yours. I haven't had any problems with fit and finish or any mechanical kinks in 5,000 miles of driving. If you look over all the posts here you will find that 99% of them are positive. So sleep well knowing you did make the right choice. There are pros and cons to every vehicle and I bet you'll be enjoying your SF for a long time.
I did check into the Hyundai dash kit, the one in the Hyundai brochure. NO ONE has info on it. Seems its not yet available on a reg. basis. I have since visited a local trim shop who sells B & I trim kits. Saw the newest book, which they just got today, and the SF was listed, and would cost me $305.00 installed.
Also asked about illuminated ignition key area. Seems its an option and the kit is already installed in ALL SF's, but...you gotta have the $25.00 bulb installed. THATS the option..a bulb, which would prob cost hmmm.$125.00 say? Tech told me its a major job to put bulb in too. Stearing column off, etc... So..thats the latest I have heard. If I see the SF with sun roof.I will snap a pic or two.
Happy driving !
- Tony
not talking about the all white ones but the altezza style... clear with red lens inside (like a lexus??)
any info is appreciated.
kc
http://www.hyundai-motor.com/eng/vehicles/index.htm
As to why they haven't introduced it the the US [yet]... Well, I've asked the same question to techs and others [even on other boards] and no one knows.
I could only guess that part of the plan for introducing the SF was to keep the initial cost well below other competitors. That would probably exclude the sunroof which could tack on close to a thousand to the price.
I have seen one with an aftermarket installation and to my surprise looked pretty good. The quality of materials was good and most important the finish work was very good. The sunroof could tilt and slide open and had an auto-close feature which closed the sunroof if it was open when the car was shut off or keys were removed from the ignition. It looked like a factory installation in and out. I believe the dealer told me it cost 1,200.00.
I'm seriously considering getting one installed, although if they had one cut in from the factory I would prefer that. In fact, I was considering holding out on my purchase [just go my SF 2 weeks ago, mid Feb] until they would have the SF with a sunroof but again, I have no idea how long that may be. Besides I have a strong feeling that once the SF become [again] more available, dealers are going to ride out the demand and hit buyers with prices well above market value until the fever subsides.
Given that I've had sunroofs in my other cars and actually hardly ever use them I probably can do without it. To me the sunroof is one of those things I like to know is there if I want to use it [another gadget] and [yes] I like the way it looks on the vehicle
Good Luck!
Sounds weird..but you might wanna check with your local service dept. This was a notice sent out by Hyundai Corp..so its got to be for real.
And again..there is a factory sun roof available NOW for the SF. just gott aget luck and get one. There is one in this area, and the tech has seen it and changed the oil on it. Says it is a sweet looking ride.
I told him about your 28psi, and he said that was too low for the Santa Fe? I'm confused. I'm driving around with 30psi as per the Santa Fe vehicle specs, but do I need to go to 35psi as per BF GoodRich Tires? I like the idea of 28psi pounds, but I'm concerned about safety, ride, comfort, etc... I like a soft, cushy ride, and it seems to me 35psi is a lot of pressure and would make for a bumpy, rogh ride as well.
COuld youpost the "bulletin" you speak of, or can direct us to where we can find this 28psi? I want my Santa Fe to have the RECOMMENDED tire pressure for everyday driving, .... please advise me, as I have 3 differnt tire pressures to go by now.... 28psi (your recommendation), 30psi (Hyundai) or 35psi (BF GoodRich) ????
He didn;t know about this bulletin or new tech meeting..., maybe this bulletin hasn't reached San Diego, California Hyundai dealers yet? Please let me, us know your thoughts??? Thanbks
- Tony
I believe the manufacture did not do very well with the tire pressure. Personally I think that the Front tires should be around 28-30 psi and the rear should be 26-28. Because the front is heavier than the rear. That's way the car will balance out with the perfect ride. My old 1997 RAV4 AWD was 28psi in front and 26psi in the rear according to the manufacture record. I think the Santa Fe should be the same as well.
Osidian Color Definition:
Obsidian is the result of volcanic lava coming in contact with water. Often the lava pours into a lake or ocean and is cooled quickly. This process produces a glassy texture in the resulting rock. Iron and magnesium give the obsidian a dark green to black color.
Clear Tail Lights:
The Clear Tail light similar to the IS300 and the new RX300 is really for the sport car only. After looking for a while I don't see any beautiful at all. However, there is a some website is selling this type of lights over $400. Not available for Santa Fe yet!
Accessories:
If you have question about certain type of accessories then please visit www.hdkautosport.com and check out the price and style of each accessories for detail. Such as Bush Guard, Step Rail, etc. The windshield visor is the shade and also protect water from slipping down on the glass. Mostly like similar to the spoiler but have shade and shorter.
**Carbon Fiber dash can be order from www.autodash.com***
Moonroof:
Moonroof is an options for the next year model and side impact probably for the other next year model. Some dealers may be able to add both of these items for this year model.
Crash Test:
There is no real result for the Santa Fe Crash Test yet! Hopefully within the next month.
Advice:
Do not order accessories from dealer because they are expensive. However, they do install it for you. If you want to save money order aftermarket and save $million....
Car Price:
I personally think that I paid a price for my Santa Fe with fully loaded at $24980 "out the door". Everything was ready and I just come paid and ride home. How easy is this kind of deal?
All season floor mats & cargo liner:
I bought the All Season floor Mats and the Cargo Liner at www.weathertech.com but you can also buy the All-Season Floor Mats at www.hdkautosport.com.
I have to warn you that underinflated tire increases side wall flexing, which in turn leads to excessive heat build-up at high speed...increasing the chance of tire blowout...stick w/ the pressure posted on the door jamb.
If you're in doubt, just call the consumner line of your region's Hyundai office.
For the back seat area... Are the mats two pieces or one single piece that also covers the center "bump" [hump over rear axle]?
Also, if you're interested see my msg #1273 and check the website to see a SF with the factory sunroof [in and out]!
Thanks
Please be alert that I only suggest that the manufacture to check out the tire pressure. That does not mean I am going to use the same as the RAV4. I do follow the MANUAL as stated the 30psi. We should just stick with the 30psi now. If any respond from manufacture suggestion then we follow their instructed which mean "doubt it". It just what I feel and think only. "But Think About it"! The front with the engine is heavier than the back right? That's mean the front should have more psi right? This is just a question!
Floor Mats:
There are different kind of All season floor mats that you can buy. If you want the kind in the rear that cover all across then www.hdkautosport.com have it.
Electrical:
Yes! The electrical system in the Santa Fe is very high-tech. Most likely everything electricity parts. I am working with electric stuffs right now with the technical guy in Korea to have the trip computer and also the a/t climate control to work for the Santa Fe in the USA and I know this is the fact.
If you live in the snow belt, do yourself a favor and install Bridgestone Winter Dueler tires. Incredible traction and control!
here in the UK we get a sun roof but if you have
ever been to England you will know we have little
use for it. But the things you get in the US
would be very useful,like heated seats & cruise
control. We only get to models 2.4 & v6 and thats
it. No options e.g. the above or traction control,
climate control,multi meter system, all of witch
are on offer in the rest of europe or the US
So if you want second best come to the uk.
Does it use the Sonata's tranny and if it does is it reliable? How about the engine?
I recommend the 6 cylinder with the 4WD. It is better, especially if you live in an area where there is much snow and rain. I hope that this information is helpful for you to decide whether to buy the Santa Fe.
Santa Fe LX-6cyl with AWD at last fill up with 5010 miles. 385miles/15.5gal = 24.8MPG
This is mostly highway driving. When in town I almost always use the shiftronic. I don't know if that makes any difference. This is also in cold weather--avg. temp in 30's this week. I am pleasantly surprised!
- Tony
The whole Firestone Tire problem...Didn't Ford make the same recommendation to lower tire pressure to compensate for some design problem? 28psi or 26psi?
Do the recommended tire pressure of 30psi...lowering the tire pressure may make it smoother but increases rolling resistance (the tires will produce heat) decrease gas mileage.
Increasing/decreasing tire pressure in the Front tires or rear tires...Tires increase in tire pressure when rolling on the highway 3 to 4 psi on the front tires and 1 to 2 psi (no load)in the rear...in a SUV which isn't as stable as a car(you may be able to play more with the psi if you are a race car driver)... naturally if you've messed too much you'll create instabillity or be able to predict how the vehicle will handle...
Stick to the Manufacturers Recommended tire pressure hopefully their engineers know what they are talking about...or change tires=Goodyears GA's caused vibration etc...on my 2000 Concorde (the same problem that the 300m had...changed to Mich X-0ne...gone.
Read the owners manual before you take anybodies advice...
Enjoy your ride!
I'm in the US and haven't heard of is option.
Can anyone fill me in if it is available or not [in the US]?
Thanks!
Thanks hung0820 for the "obsidian" definition.
Anyone know how to get Edmunds and Car and Driver to retract their statements that the vehicle has sidebags? Very misleading. Anyone shiop their vehicles overseas or other country. Hyundai told me to pay in advance and then they will consider reimbursement. Sounds pretty unsure to me. Has this ever worked for anyone? Finally any better prices than $23,000 deliverered you've paid for a loaded LX 4wd with ABS/traction, mats, heated seats/electro mirror? By the way, I found but passed on a nice Blue LX minus ABS and heated seats at Herb Connelly dealership in Framingham MA.
I was asking about warranty reimbursement overseas. Hyundai told me to pay for service, then request reimbursement from Hyundai North America. When I asked is this a sure thing, or where is it written that they will, in fact pay, they said its considered on a case by case basis. It sounds pretty sketchy to me with nothing in writing (they refused) and case by case over 10 years of "unwritten warranty" is sketchy and unsure! Anyone have experience getting service under warranty in a different country than USA for a vehicle purchased in USA?
Thanks!
Last december I have ordered a copper orange Santa Fe 2.0 FWD which is expected to be delivered in May. This is a long wait but at this moment, leadtimes have already increased to almost 8 months.
During the past few days I have been reading the postings and one of the things that I noticed is the fact that the SF model-range in the US is very different from that in Holland. Here, we only have 2.0 FWD, 2.4 AWD and V6 AWD. The first two only with manual shift and the latter with only automatic.
Regards to you all from Jan.
as to the frod and bridgetone issue, i kinda think this is a worng comparison..the bridgetsone issue delt with bad materials in the rubber at a plant not by the the lowering of tire pressure..the rubber was bad...not the air pressure. as to roll over..umm..kinda depends on the driver and the road conditions, weather conditions.etc.. if 2 pds of pressure is gonna cause a roll over....WOW..watch out when it gets warmer, and your tires expant due to heat. again..i will check on the info on monday..will post anything i found out and hopefully answer some questions that still linger out there.
Oh yeah, we had a 6 inch powder day and great snow all week.
Steve
I heard that US. version's standard engine will be V6 3.5.
http://bbsx.adwars.com/read.php?table=mildbreeze&no=70
http://bbsx.adwars.com/read.php?table=mildbreeze&no=67
http://bbsx.adwars.com/read.php?table=mildbreeze&no=66
The other pictures are spy photos of Hyundai's all new 2-door coupe. It will have SF'S V6 engine and 6-speed manual or 5-speed automatic transmission.
http://bbsx.adwars.com/read.php?table=mildbreeze&no=65
http://bbsx.adwars.com/read.php?table=mildbreeze&no=64