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Jeep Wrangler



  • oceantoadoceantoad Posts: 186
    Hey, don't forget this senior citizen. I get the feeling that Host Steve might be a bit long in the tooth also, isn't he the one that lists a Karman Ghia as a dream car.

    Mtngal, I thought that you were way older than me!!!!!!!

    Got my CJ5 at 22 and got this one at 48. Hope to have a Wrangler for as long as I can get up into it without help from another person. A ladder would be ok.

    I think you are more of a Ford Escort kind of person. By the way, don't you think your jeans are a bit to tight and your dresses are a bit to short?

    When I was driving my Triumph TR4 my Mom wanted me to get a Jeep since it would be so much more safer to drive. 32 years later I listened to what my Mom had told me.

    Ain't it fun being bad. Be an outlaw and go for it. Do it before the hips and knees go:)
  • madebw00madebw00 Posts: 13
    You learned to drive in a 69 Kadett? Hey, they didn't sell those in the US, did they? Isn't that supposed to be a German car? My mom used to drive one of those back home in the old country.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    I got my CJ-5 when I was ~21. Back in 1974. Green, soft-top. Never could get all the snaps to close after taking the top off for the first time.

    And yeah, I always did like the old Karman Ghias. And I actually had an autographed pic of Jan & Dean at one time. Still got my OEM knees though :-)

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  • twylietwylie Posts: 619
    32 when I got the wrangler; only wish I'd gotten one sooner...

    oceantoad - I laughed about the TR4 comment; my first car was a '71 MGB that I bought with my paper route $. Dad helped me check it out when I bought it and mom was horrified that I'd get killed in it. My dad told her it was the safest car I could ever own, because it would never be running and I'd always be working on it in the driveway. Pretty ironic since my dad had TWO Peugeots that ran almost as well as one real car. My 'B ended up being a great car and ran without any real trouble (once I learned to change the points every 6 months!). The Peugeots on the other hand...

  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Hey oceantoad - I am older than you, but only by a year (I'm proud that I have made it this far, but lets not go adding additional years on). I sort of figured we would be about the same age - been to places at the same time, done similar things in the Army.

    The Opel Kadett was (as you said) a German car. GM imported them (and the Rally) for a few years, late 60's and into the very early '70s. The '69 I used to drive had originally been bought by my parents for my sister. They told her she either had to graduate from college or pay for the car. She didn't do either - she got married so the car went back to my parents. With 3 cars and 3 drivers, you can guess who got the stick without air conditioning! But I loved it! Great for dirt roads that didn't need 4x4 because it had pretty good ground clearance.
  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    I'm 31 and I think I seem to remember that the median age of Wrangler drivers is 32, so I know it's not all kids driving Jeeps.

    Speaking of demographic questions, does anyone know where on the web you can find information about the demographics of car buyers? I know there has got to be someplace that tells you how many Wranglers are sold each year, median age & income of buyers, etc.
  • ford12passford12pass Posts: 3
    I'm 42. Bought my 98 black sahara last month with a manual for 2 reasons, gas mileage and the need to teach my kids to drive a manual. One in ten cars is still a manual and if I don't have one my kids might not have a chance to learn. Went to Sahara State Park here in Oklahoma and actually wondered if a auto might have be better. While climbing a few of the large sand dunes (upto 75 feet), I would be in 4 low in fourth gear doing about 25 mph and a couldn't make the top without having to shift down. Without shifting I would stall and when I tried to shift I would stop my ascent. I think with an auto, it would have shifted for me and given me a chance. I don't like backing down when doing a climb. All in all the jeep did fantastic though, and I know I scared my 2 oldest boys (9 and 13), they keep screaming "Dad NO, don't do it" until they got used to it, as they had never done any 4x4 climbing.
  • madman390madman390 Posts: 72
    Well, I guess I'm the youngster here. I bought my Wrangler last year when I was 28. Loving every minute of it.

    In my opionion, safety depends on how you drive it. It is not a sports car, and cannot be driven as one. But that is true for many SUVs (remember the suzuki samurai, and even the isuzu trooper?). As with any car, you should know what the limits are, both car and driver, and avoid exceeding them.

    But some things are beyond your control. And even the most "perfect driver" can be involved in an accident. Luckily, the Jeep Wrangler does well in crash tests. Take a look at the following links:

    (you can compare the Wrangler to other SUVs)

    (snapshot of Wrangler's scores)

    Hope this helps.


    PS--sorry about missing out on Gill's. I've been working nights and my schedule doesn't really give me time to hang out in Gills in the afternoon or evenings. I'll be there when I can.

  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Here's a survey result done by one site that gives partial answers to your questions. It's not particularly scientific but it's a start.

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  • jptjjptj Posts: 53
    I got my first Jeep when I was 40. I'm now 52 and 7 times a grandfather. I hope this will help
  • cklausingcklausing Posts: 16
    Wow, guess I'm the kid of the bunch in these parts:) Got my Wranger last year at age 26. Would have loved one sooner than that, but I really didn't want to do the "payment" thing, and with college and all, last year was the earliest I could actually afford to make the leap.

    As for the Wrangler being "for kids", I'd say that of the 10-20 Wranglers I see each day, the bulk of the people behind the wheel are older than I. Besides, as far as I can tell, so long as you are still young of heart, that is all that should matter. Anybody who tells you otherwise is just jealous because they can't come up with a way to justify getting one themselves;)
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Around here you see all ages driving Wranglers. They don't appeal so much to an age as a type, which can be any age. You are either a Jeep type or you aren't. It's one of those unexplainable things - a Jeep thing...
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    lol, no, It's a Jeep Thang.

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  • bamatazzbamatazz Posts: 311
    WOW>> are your parent kin to mine..
    When i was "younger" I a;ways bought the sensible
    car.. But when I got that JEEP bug I had to have it. The Jeep makes no sense at all. But if that is what you want, go for it. To me its a bigger waste of money paying for something you dont like.
    I dont mind at all paying for TAZZ (well when they get the payment). ohh I was 33 when I got tazz..umm that was last year.

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I bought my first ever Jeep (not counting a Grand Cherokee) at the ripe old age of 51!


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • desnodesno Posts: 28
    Looks like i'm the baby! I bought my wrangler this past January at the ripe old age of 24!! :-) I'm now 25, so one year older, a little more bolder! I love driving the jeep! It fits my personality perfectly!!

  • jeep_boyjeep_boy Posts: 9
    19 when I bought my first 1979 CJ7, 20 when I got the second, a 1983 CJ7, and 21 when I bought my first wrangler, a 1987. Now I am 32 and bought another wrangler about 6 months ago, a 99 sport. Hang in there Deb, I went through a 10 year drought without a jeep between the 87 and the 99 wranglers. Remember it's a Jeep thing and your parents just don't understand.
  • wheelsdownwheelsdown Posts: 250
    Deb, got my first Wrangler (Red Ryder, a 2000 flame red sport with black soft top) two years ago at age 61. Wanted one since I was in the service in the early 60's. Have had the top down all week. It is every bit as good as I thought it would be.

  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Do you mean that you are older than me???? Boy, did I have that one figured wrong!

    It really says something about this little vehicle. We have such huge differences - age, location, and uses for our vehicles. And the really great thing is that we all seem to be able to get along. We don't have the same taste in options/configurations, but all agree that's why we love such an impractical vehicle!

    Steve - I was thinking of that article - it is so true!
  • redkey1redkey1 Posts: 270
    I have the opportunity to purchase a set of black 1/2 doors for pretty cheap. How difficult / expensive will it be to paint them to match my '02 solar yellow sport?

    BTW, I got mine at 23 years old. 1st job = 1st jeep.
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Posts: 1,538
    I have some catching up to do!!

    (not as much as on "I don't like SUV's, why do you?", which is up to 2 thousand something behind!)
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Posts: 1,538
    "When you bought your Jeeps, how old were you?"

    36, last August.

    "My Mom made the comment after having dinner at my brother's house, "I'm embarrassed, she's 38 and Jeep's are driven by younger kids...she needs to get something sensible(her idea of sensible is a Ford Taurus :( )." My sister-in-law came back with, "Is she single? Does she have any kids? Let her get what she wants." I don't always agree with my sister-in-law, but that comment I did. :)"

    What do kids have to do with it again? Every Saturday, I smile when the bald guy at the bottom of my street goes by with the bald baby in the back of the topless jeep! It is priceless. They are both smiling and having a blast. I swear kids like rides as much as dogs.

    By the way, my father in law hated jeeps when I bought mine (he worked on them in the Army in 1952, and thought that is still what they are like). Anyhow, when I had shoulder surgery in April, I let him borrow it for a month. I think his opinion has changed. He is 67.
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Posts: 1,538
    Just wondering what to do about peeling grey paint on steel wheels of my 1997 Sport. Will any grey paint work?

    Also, what about the mirror brackets? It seems to be some sort of white metal (zinc?) underneath, but I don't like the look of the metal, so want to paint it black. I might just use some rustoleum.

    comments? ideas?
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Posts: 1,538
    "...Went to Sahara State Park here in Oklahoma and actually wondered if a auto might have be better. While climbing a few of the large sand dunes (upto 75 feet), I would be in 4 low in fourth gear doing about 25 mph and a couldn't make the top without having to shift down."

    Why not use 4Hi in sand?

    "Without shifting I would stall and when I tried to shift I would stop my ascent. I think with an auto, it would have shifted for me and given me a chance."

    Or, how about shifting earlier?
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Posts: 1,538
    You are in your mid 30's, and your mother is still telling you what to do? Do you still live with her? I mean, my mom tells me what to do sometimes too, but that doesn't mean you have do do it!

  • anonymous02anonymous02 Posts: 1,538
    "I have the opportunity to purchase a set of black 1/2 doors for pretty cheap. How difficult / expensive will it be to paint them to match my '02 solar yellow sport?"

    Get the doors. Don't paint them. Name the Jeep "Bumblebee"!
  • jag28jag28 Posts: 1
    Does anyone know what the P0455 error code means for a 2001?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Large (gross) leak detected in the evaporative purge system.


    EVAP system hoses or wiring damaged
    EVAP system component leaking
    Leak detection pump leaking

    Check for a bad hose or connector. Can also be triggered by a loose or faulty gas cap.
  • dwranglerdwrangler Posts: 127
    I still am planning on getting the Jeep and yes annonymous, I do still live with my parents at helps defray the cost of school and the HIGH cost of the apartment/housing market here. After the rough year I've had with losing aunts and an uncle, it's good to get my mind on nicer getting that Jeep.

    Again, thanks to all it's late so I'll make a longer post next time :)


    oh...Hug your Jeeps for me ;)
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    95,000 Jeep Wranglers from the 2001 and 2002 model years are being recalled. Water or other impurities can get into the ignition switch and cause a short circuit, possibly leading to fire.

    link (scroll to the bottom of the story)

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