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oldfarmer50

Michaell said:

Maybe we should invest in SAFER barriers, like NASCAR uses, on all our roads.

Great idea! Just place some old tires and hay bales along side the road like in the races.😂

corvette

I've heard anecdotal remarks that EVs burn through tires quickly, but a lot of those complaints seem to be related to EVs that are both heavy and high performance, such as the Model S. I only have a little over 2,000 miles on the Ariya, and it's too soon to tell, but preliminarily, I think the OE tires should be good for the entire 15,000 miles / 18 months of the lease.

explorerx4

@corvette,
That's a joke, right?
I went on tirerack and the oem tires are about $290 each(just the tire) and the smaller option, out of stock, is rated for 40K.

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

Maybe we should invest in SAFER barriers, like NASCAR uses, on all our roads.

Great idea! Just place some old tires and hay bales along side the road like in the races.😂

I was poking around in the woods on my property and found some have buried old tires. so I am happy to donate to the cause.

and if you know the best way to get rid of old tires around here, let me know!

venture

I'm sitting here at 3:43 am waiting for it to get light enough to go outside and go to work.

I think I need help.

Kirstie_H

venture said:

I'm sitting here at 3:43 am waiting for it to get light enough to go outside and go to work.

I think I need help.

I'm usually about 15 minutes behind you. I think I gave up sleep for Lent one year and forgot to resume after Easter.

stickguy

I thought I was bad waking up early so I could go out and water the lawn before work

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

Maybe we should invest in SAFER barriers, like NASCAR uses, on all our roads.

Great idea! Just place some old tires and hay bales along side the road like in the races.😂

I was poking around in the woods on my property and found some have buried old tires. so I am happy to donate to the cause.

and if you know the best way to get rid of old tires around here, let me know!

Bring them to any dairy farm in Vermont. They use them to hold down the cover over the silage bunkers.

oldfarmer50

venture said:

I'm sitting here at 3:43 am waiting for it to get light enough to go outside and go to work.

I think I need help.

I wake up early on work days too. Yesterday it was 3:55.😫

sb55

In a past life I was a dairy farmer. When I left that in my 20's, I eventually ran a small business. The early rising was a fact of life. Now that I don't have to get up early, I still can't not! Today was 4:30. If I sleep past 5:30 I'm happy.

ab348

stickguy said:

I was poking around in the woods on my property and found some have buried old tires. so I am happy to donate to the cause.

and if you know the best way to get rid of old tires around here, let me know!

I think the best way is to bury them.

Kirstie_H

FYI, I re-titled the original discussion to include (archived), so the slightly annoying "part 2" has been removed from this one.

stickguy

@ab348 said:
I think the best way is to bury them.

That is an option. A few are in the way of where we want to run the fence and reclaim space into the yard. But I can always relocate them to the forever wild back corners of the yard!

Waiting for it to cool off so I can wear long pants and sleeves before I go back into there to start clearing.

jmonroe1

venture said:

I'm sitting here at 3:43 am waiting for it to get light enough to go outside and go to work.

I think I need help.

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No, you need more than that. Maybe a razor blade.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

@ab348 said:

I think the best way is to bury them.

That is an option. A few are in the way of where we want to run the fence and reclaim space into the yard. But I can always relocate them to the forever wild back corners of the yard!

Waiting for it to cool off so I can wear long pants and sleeves before I go back into there to start clearing.

You can always roll them back into your neighbor’s yard where they came from.😤

driver100

corvette said:

I've heard anecdotal remarks that EVs burn through tires quickly, but a lot of those complaints seem to be related to EVs that are both heavy and high performance, such as the Model S. I only have a little over 2,000 miles on the Ariya, and it's too soon to tell, but preliminarily, I think the OE tires should be good for the entire 15,000 miles / 18 months of the lease.

EV tires cost 20-30-in some cases 50% more, and mileage will be about 20% less. Heavier weight, faster acceleration, different materials to get a quieter ride.

driver100

stickguy said:

driver100 said:

Electric vehicles raise safety concerns as to whether guardrails can handle car's excess weight
Guardrails on U.S. roads are typically tested against vehicles weighing up to 5,000 lbs. However, many electric vehicles weigh up to 30% more than that, raising safety concerns on whether guardrails would hold up in a collision.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/electric-vehicles-raise-safety-concerns-as-to-whether-guardrails-can-handle-cars-excess-weight/

the slew of oversized pickups and big SUVs weigh more than that and seem to do OK

Most cars weigh under 5000 pounds. Barriers are made to keep a majority of cars on the road. A Ford F-150 is on the heavier side, and it weighs in at just under 5000 pounds.
Obviously, barriers are not made to keep every vehicle on the road. You build for the 80%.

nyccarguy

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

driver100 said:

Electric vehicles raise safety concerns as to whether guardrails can handle car's excess weight
Guardrails on U.S. roads are typically tested against vehicles weighing up to 5,000 lbs. However, many electric vehicles weigh up to 30% more than that, raising safety concerns on whether guardrails would hold up in a collision.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/electric-vehicles-raise-safety-concerns-as-to-whether-guardrails-can-handle-cars-excess-weight/

the slew of oversized pickups and big SUVs weigh more than that and seem to do OK

Most cars weigh under 5000 pounds. Barriers are made to keep a majority of cars on the road. A Ford F-150 is on the heavier side, and it weighs in at just under 5000 pounds.
Obviously, barriers are not made to keep every vehicle on the road. You build for the 80%.

Are you posting from Florida or Canada? If you are in Canada, please post using the metric system.

laurasdada

I thought gas prices were coming down? Just filled the A7 at BJs, $3.55/PUG (3.70/gal before my .15/gal discount). Up .04/gal from last fill.

corvette

@laurasdada - it's a sign from the universe to plug it in more!

jwm40517

I usually get up at 4AM but i just pee and go back to bed until 9 or so

driver100

nyccarguy said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

driver100 said:

Electric vehicles raise safety concerns as to whether guardrails can handle car's excess weight
Guardrails on U.S. roads are typically tested against vehicles weighing up to 5,000 lbs. However, many electric vehicles weigh up to 30% more than that, raising safety concerns on whether guardrails would hold up in a collision.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/electric-vehicles-raise-safety-concerns-as-to-whether-guardrails-can-handle-cars-excess-weight/

the slew of oversized pickups and big SUVs weigh more than that and seem to do OK

Most cars weigh under 5000 pounds. Barriers are made to keep a majority of cars on the road. A Ford F-150 is on the heavier side, and it weighs in at just under 5000 pounds.
Obviously, barriers are not made to keep every vehicle on the road. You build for the 80%.

Are you posting from Florida or Canada? If you are in Canada, please post using the metric system.

I am in Canada nyc, I go to Florida on Nov 4th...just before your election (I hope that isn't considered political). I had to convert to non-metric as that is what the majority here use.

abacomike

I have a car announcement - just got home from my Genesis dealer with my new 2024 Genesis G90 V6 twin turbo with electric supercharger. MSRP was just under $102,000. Truly beautiful and drives better than any car I’ve ever owned or leased. It’s charcoal grey with a medium brownish leather interior. It has the sport wheels with Michelin tires.

I leased this one because of the astounding incentive ($10,500) + ($5,000) for loyalty which I’d deducted from the agreed upon capital cost of the G90. They gave me $40,000 for my 2021 Base G90 ($5,000 more than wholesale value) my remaining balance of my loan on the 2021 was $19560 - so my total cap cost reduction was $20,000. My monthly payments are $652 tax included on a 36 month 10K mile lease. The $20,000 cap cost reduction was not taxable because it came from the proceeds of my trade.

I did this because I wanted to reward myself for still being alive after double bypass heart surgery and a horrendous fall and 8-1/2 weeks total in rehab.

As soon as I get pictures of it I will post them.

ab348

Way to go, Mike! That will make you feel better.

nyccarguy

Way to go Mike! Glad to hear you are on the mend!

suydam

Awesome, Mike! We are all glad you are still here! Pictures, please!

jmonroe1

Mike, if anyone deserves some joy it’s you. Sounds like that car should be pretty quick. Try not to crush too many folks when at red lights.

Enjoy.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

laurasdada said:

I thought gas prices were coming down? Just filled the A7 at BJs, $3.55/PUG (3.70/gal before my .15/gal discount). Up .04/gal from last fill.

I just saw my first $2.99/gal for RUG at a no-name station yesterday. Funny how gas prices seem to go up or down just before an election.

tjc78

Enjoy the car Mike!!!!

Is this Genesis #3?

kyfdx

oldfarmer50 said:

laurasdada said:

I thought gas prices were coming down? Just filled the A7 at BJs, $3.55/PUG (3.70/gal before my .15/gal discount). Up .04/gal from last fill.

I just saw my first $2.99/gal for RUG at a no-name station yesterday. Funny how gas prices seem to go up or down just before an election.

Or, at all other times, as well? 😮

mjfloyd1

That $20,000 cap cost reduction will disappear if the vehicle is totaled and is the equivalent of an additional $555.55 monthly payment. Maybe I am missing something though??

Over $40,000 to borrow a vehicle for 36 months / 30000 miles seems like a lot but they also seem to depreciate rapidly so maybe not so bad??

mjfloyd1

@kyfdx said:
Or, at all other times, as well? 😮

Like right before holiday travel??

kyfdx

mjfloyd1 said:

That $20,000 cap cost reduction will disappear if the vehicle is totaled and is the equivalent of an additional $555.55 monthly payment.

Debbie Downer

mjfloyd1

@kyfdx said:
Debbie Downer

Or realist??

kyfdx

mjfloyd1 said:

@kyfdx said:

Debbie Downer

Or realist??

No one needs lease advice after they've already got the car..

mjfloyd1

@kyfdx said:
No one needs lease advice after they've already got the car..

Agreed. Best to visit Leasehackr etc before the deal is signed. 😎

graphicguy

Mike....nice. Can't wait to see pics......

kyfdx

mjfloyd1 said:

@kyfdx said:

No one needs lease advice after they've already got the car..

Agreed. Best to visit Leasehackr etc before the deal is signed. 😎

imidazol97

@abacomike
Great to hear you're doing okay. Buying a car is a good sign.
Keep getting better.

imidazol97

This short discussion of leasing has left me knowing I'll never understand all the ins-and-outs of leasing.

kyfdx

imidazol97 said:

This short discussion of leasing has left me knowing I'll never understand all the ins-and-outs of leasing.

If it fit your lifestyle, you'd take the time to learn all about it.

driver100

ab348 said:

Way to go, Mike! That will make you feel better.

+1 All the best on the new car...enjoy it!

imidazol97

kyfdx said:

imidazol97 said:

This short discussion of leasing has left me knowing I'll never understand all the ins-and-outs of leasing.

If it fit your lifestyle, you'd take the time to learn all about it.

Yes. That's right.

I would like to trade to a different car, but can't justify it with all the trouble of
finding one my wife can easily enter and exit with her back and body problems.

Leasing might be a good choice the next time. Don't know how long I might
be driving or it might be easier for my son to liquidate from my estate.

laurasdada

corvette said:

@laurasdada - it's a sign from the universe to plug it in more!

Too risky...

I actually do try to always have juice in the battery, but with three cars and two garage spaces (yes, thank y'all for the deepest sympathies. Although compared to most CCBA members, I'm a dilettante!) sometimes my laziness overcomes my other sensibilities.

Did I mention that I spent a couple of nights at my DisneyWorld, Mohegan Sun Casino, and they've installed ~20 new charging stations? But they're all Tesla/NACS! And my ancient mariner Audi doesn't play that game. They're down to one working CCS charger and it was being used by a ... Tesla!

I used my portable charger in one of their 120 outlets in the garage, but it either fell out or was removed from the outlet after charging to 50%. That's not happened before.

tjc78

@kyfdx said:
If it fit your lifestyle, you'd take the time to learn all about it.

I don’t really ever see myself getting off the leasing hampster wheel.

Over the years chasing the deals has yielded a few vehicles I would have never owned otherwise. Wife’s EQE is definitely one of them.

Michaell

tjc78 said:

@kyfdx said:

If it fit your lifestyle, you'd take the time to learn all about it.

I don’t really ever see myself getting off the leasing hampster wheel.

Over the years chasing the deals has yielded a few vehicles I would have never owned otherwise. Wife’s EQE is definitely one of them.

We leased for a long while, then decided to try and keep cars longer than two or three years.

Didn't always work out, so played the negative equity game for a bit.

Now, we own the Outback outright, and there was enough down payment on the Sportage to skip the GAP insurance so the daughter has a reasonable monthly payment.

Though having a new car in the garage is giving me the itch to go shopping for myself!

Just spent the morning organizing the garage to give us more space for the cars, as the Sportage is much bigger than the MINI it replaced.

corvette

@laurasdada - I bought a NACS to J-1772 adapter for Level 2 charging on the Ariya. I've only used it once, but it worked great.

kyfdx

tjc78 said:

@kyfdx said:

If it fit your lifestyle, you'd take the time to learn all about it.

I don’t really ever see myself getting off the leasing hampster wheel.

Over the years chasing the deals has yielded a few vehicles I would have never owned otherwise. Wife’s EQE is definitely one of them.

"ever" is a long time. We had a leased car (one or two) from 1994 (!) to 2003, then again from 2005 to 2014. But, then it didn't fit, any more.

kyfdx

imidazol97 said:

kyfdx said:

imidazol97 said:

This short discussion of leasing has left me knowing I'll never understand all the ins-and-outs of leasing.

If it fit your lifestyle, you'd take the time to learn all about it.

Yes. That's right.

I would like to trade to a different car, but can't justify it with all the trouble of
finding one my wife can easily enter and exit with her back and body problems.

Leasing might be a good choice the next time. Don't know how long I might
be driving or it might be easier for my son to liquidate from my estate.

I'll guess it's easier to liquidate a car you own, rather than one you leased. At least, if you want to come out ahead.

tjc78

@kyfdx said:
"ever" is a long time. We had a leased car (one or two) from 1994 (!) to 2003, then again from 2005 to 2014. But, then it didn't fit, any more.

Yeah maybe someday… as long as we maintain two residences that we drive and forth to I’ll keep leasing. If I get my wish and move down the shore I’ll certainly at that own something because the mileage will be stupid low since we rarely leave the island and drive the golf cart everywhere