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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,194
    breld said:

    In contrast, the smooth styling of the Lucid Air is really growing on me. This example is on the standard wheels and finishes, and yet I find it very attractive. I appreciate styling that doesn’t need to be dressed up to be striking.


    How is Lucid doing? Are the financially stable or will they end up like Karma?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,194
    edited July 3
    tjc78 said:

    breld said:

    I still find the 3-series handsome (a new one is out relative soon, right?).

    The X3 is bold to say the least. Audi’s approach to the new Q5 is a good example of a solid update with restraint (as was MB’s recent GLC update).

    The 5-series…I think it’s just a little plain. It needs the M Sport exterior to look decent. I’m still a little drawn to this used i5 M60. I drove it when it first became available, which was around 6 weeks ago and it’s been reduced almost $10k. So it’s almost $30k below MSRP, but I’m quite sure that’s not nearly enough to cut your losses on a luxury EV, particularly one that has an EPA range of around 250 miles.


    250 is not enough. Our Mercedes tops out a little over 300 and since I drive like I have feet the size of Shaq's I tend to get under 300. I'd like 350-375 so that an 80% charge will get you 300.

    One thing I've noticed is that it seems to get better range around town than all highway. Maybe it is an illusion but it sure seems that way.

    On the other end of the spectrum today I was at a 1/4 tank so filled the Ram. 24 gallons... I keep forgetting it has the larger tank.
    Don’t hybrids and EVs have regenerative braking which gives the battery back some of what is lost accelerating? I even thing the EPA mileage estimates for
    hybrids give a higher number for city over highway.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @tifighter,
    As they say, GLWTA.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    GLWTA!

    you even got a bid already.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,277
    tifighter said:
    Wow, congrats on passing the entrance exam, and GLWS.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    tifighter said:
    Is it hard to decide between a reserve and no reserve?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    edited July 3
    is that going no reserve? Is there a way to tell in the listing? I didn't see it.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    stickguy said:

    is that going no reserve? Is there a way to tell in the listing? I didn't see it.

    No reserve is usually in the title header

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,785

    @kyfdx said:
    Is it hard to decide between a reserve and no reserve?

    I do have a reserve since I don’t want to give it away, but it’s well below my purchase price.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    Not sure if eveyone knows this but if you click on the bidder's or commenter's 'name' you can see what they've bid on in the past.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335

    Not sure if eveyone knows this but if you click on the bidder's or commenter's 'name' you can see what they've bid on in the past.

    Don't tell my wife.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514

    Not sure if eveyone knows this but if you click on the bidder's or commenter's 'name' you can see what they've bid on in the past.

    Works the same way for the seller, if they bought the car on BaT

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,324
    stickguy said:

    Not sure if eveyone knows this but if you click on the bidder's or commenter's 'name' you can see what they've bid on in the past.

    Don't tell my wife.
    ————————————————
    Too late. Someone just did. :'(

    jmonroe

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    more important, did your wife chase you around the dining table for getting it without telling her?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    better to ask forgiveness than permission!

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    edited July 3

    Only drama was the salesman got into the passenger seat to show me the features. We filled it up and I headed home. There was a wreck on 24 and I was a good hour away when he called asking me if I saw another customer’s drivers license in the passenger seat. I didn’t see anything.

    He called back an hour later and asked me to feel around and I found the other dude’s driver’s license in the space between my center console and the passenger seat. I was almost home and the other customer asked if I would turn around and come back…. Umm no.

    The salesman drove to my house and picked up the DL. 3.5 hours each way because the guy was flying out on Tuesday. I offered to take it to FedEx on Saturday and overnight it if he paid for the shipping but the sales dude opted to come get it.

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,821

    Congrats @mjfloyd1 !

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,194
    mjfloyd1 said:

    Only drama was the salesman got into the passenger seat to show me the features. We filled it up and I headed home. There was a wreck on 24 and I was a good hour away when he called asking me if I saw another customer’s drivers license in the passenger seat. I didn’t see anything.

    He called back an hour later and asked me to feel around and I found the other dude’s driver’s license in the space between my center console and the passenger seat. I was almost home and the other customer asked if I would turn around and come back…. Umm no.

    The salesman drove to my house and picked up the DL. 3.5 hours each way because the guy was flying out on Tuesday. I offered to take it to FedEx on Saturday and overnight it if he paid for the shipping but the sales dude opted to come get it.

    Why was some other guy driving your new car? Was the salesman trying to go to use your new ride as a service loaner?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    Why did the salesperson have some other person's license?

    So many questions

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,491

    Beautiful truck @mjfloyd1 . Congrats! Happy 4th of July!

    Crazy story. So the guy drove 7 hours round trip across 2 different time zones?

    I am beyond neurotic with my wallet and license.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @mjfloyd1,
    Did the saleman copy your license? Maybe someone left the other guy's license on the copy machine and the saleman found it.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    I love the roll-down rear-window.

    Had a separate opening rear-window on the CR-V. It's very handy.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    edited July 4

    @explorerx4 said:
    @mjfloyd1,
    Did the saleman copy your license? Maybe someone left the other guy's license on the copy machine and the saleman found it.

    He copied mine

    He had the other guy’s DL in his pocket with his phone. He pulled out his phone while sitting in my passenger front seat and apparently the DL fell out. The salesman was also talking with this guy and his wife while we were waiting for my car to come out of prep. He should have left it with the guy or on his desk but it happened and he made it right.

    He did notice that the removable front dash speaker was missing and the sales manager brought it out to me after we gassed up. Kinda neat JBL system that you can remove the front dash speaker pod and use it outside the vehicle.

    Best feature is having a sunroof and daylight. The jeep hardtop, while you can remove the front parts is certainly weather dependent.

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    I think I should name it “Smurf”😳

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,491

    @kyfdx said:
    I love the roll-down rear-window.

    Had a separate opening rear-window on the CR-V. It's very handy.

    Our 2011 Pilot had a rear glass that would flip up. Very handy indeed!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,701
    Really nice looking 4Runner!

    2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
    2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    Tire pressure was at 39 on the way home and should have been 33 so was a little rougher than it will be but it is still a disguised Taco

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,278
    mjfloyd1 said:


    He did notice that the removable front dash speaker was missing and the sales manager brought it out to me after we gassed up. Kinda neat JBL system that you can remove the front dash speaker pod and use it outside the vehicle.

    That is a somewhat contentious feature. While it being removable is somewhat useful if you are camping, at the beach, etc, some seem to think that it will be a target for theft and even smashing of side windows to get at it by those so inclined. Some are even advocating taking it with you when you park in public spots, which I think is absurd, but whatever. It sounds like that dealership was at least concerned about it if they had them removed and stored inside.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,324
    ab348 said:

    mjfloyd1 said:


    He did notice that the removable front dash speaker was missing and the sales manager brought it out to me after we gassed up. Kinda neat JBL system that you can remove the front dash speaker pod and use it outside the vehicle.

    That is a somewhat contentious feature. While it being removable is somewhat useful if you are camping, at the beach, etc, some seem to think that it will be a target for theft and even smashing of side windows to get at it by those so inclined. Some are even advocating taking it with you when you park in public spots, which I think is absurd, but whatever. It sounds like that dealership was at least concerned about it if they had them removed and stored inside.
    ————————————————
    I say take your favorite Doberman with you whenever you can. Leave the windows cracked in the summer, of course.

    jmonroe
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,278
    mjfloyd1 said:

    Only drama was the salesman got into the passenger seat to show me the features. We filled it up and I headed home. There was a wreck on 24 and I was a good hour away when he called asking me if I saw another customer’s drivers license in the passenger seat. I didn’t see anything.

    He called back an hour later and asked me to feel around and I found the other dude’s driver’s license in the space between my center console and the passenger seat. I was almost home and the other customer asked if I would turn around and come back…. Umm no.

    The salesman drove to my house and picked up the DL. 3.5 hours each way because the guy was flying out on Tuesday. I offered to take it to FedEx on Saturday and overnight it if he paid for the shipping but the sales dude opted to come get it.

    Now I'm even more confused than I normally am. How far away from you was this dealership?

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    Congrats on the 4Runner @mjfloyd1! Love the color - inside and out.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918

    breld said:

    In contrast, the smooth styling of the Lucid Air is really growing on me. This example is on the standard wheels and finishes, and yet I find it very attractive. I appreciate styling that doesn’t need to be dressed up to be striking.


    How is Lucid doing? Are the financially stable or will they end up like Karma?
    Not sure how sales and overall company health is at the moment - better than Fisker I’d say for sure.

    Another good reason to lease.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,491

    @breld said:
    Congrats on the 4Runner @mjfloyd1! Love the color - inside and out.

    Uh - oh. We know what that means!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,576
    mjfloyd1 said:

    Pics. Still has the back glass that rolls down. I’m really glad that I got the portobello interior rather than settling on black







    !


    (https://us.v-cdn.net/5021145/uploads/editor/rm/ovni2mq2h222.jpeg "")

    Congrats @mjfloyd1!
    Nice 4Runner! Wishing you many enjoyable and safe miles!

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335

    Like the old days of the 80s or 90s when you either popped out your head unit or took the faceplate off and took with you

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,324
    @mjfloyd1 Nice!

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,277
    stickguy said:

    Like the old days of the 80s or 90s when you either popped out your head unit or took the faceplate off and took with you

    I put an MP3 CD player in the Jetta I had. It had a motorized faceplate that would flip back and show a blank piece of black plastic when the ignition was turned off.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    ab348 said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    Only drama was the salesman got into the passenger seat to show me the features. We filled it up and I headed home. There was a wreck on 24 and I was a good hour away when he called asking me if I saw another customer’s drivers license in the passenger seat. I didn’t see anything.

    He called back an hour later and asked me to feel around and I found the other dude’s driver’s license in the space between my center console and the passenger seat. I was almost home and the other customer asked if I would turn around and come back…. Umm no.

    The salesman drove to my house and picked up the DL. 3.5 hours each way because the guy was flying out on Tuesday. I offered to take it to FedEx on Saturday and overnight it if he paid for the shipping but the sales dude opted to come get it.

    Now I'm even more confused than I normally am. How far away from you was this dealership?
    3.5 hours, one way. He lives in Indiana and the dealership was in Tennessee

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    @ab348 said:
    Now I'm even more confused than I normally am. How far away from you was this dealership?

    Dealership was 3.5 hours from home. I found the DL when I was 1.5 hrs from home (or 2 hrs away from dealership)

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    @ab348 said:
    That is a somewhat contentious feature. While it being removable is somewhat useful if you are camping, at the beach, etc, some seem to think that it will be a target for theft and even smashing of side windows to get at it by those so inclined. Some are even advocating taking it with you when you park in public spots, which I think is absurd, but whatever. It sounds like that dealership was at least concerned about it if they had them removed and stored inside.

    I didn’t know that it had this feature. It is what it is and that’s why I have insurance.

    It sounds really good so there is an upside.

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    Congrats to all who made purchases this week. Left my Raybans in the ceiling holder so had to stop by yesterday morning to find them. Luckily the salesman found them and had them for me. Noticed at 6:15 Thursday morning when I woke up and remembered I had forgotten them. Now, left my seat cushion on the front seat & would like it back even though it's a bit old. Texted my sales guy and he said he'd check first thing tomorrow since today is a holiday. Luckily it's still on the lot so it has to be there. Guess he didn't notice it when he drove it back to the dealership from my house. Good thing it's only about 2 miles away! Unlike me to forget stuff as I did clean out a lot of stuff I was carrying around. Will be very careful what I put back inside though!

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    Took a few pics on my iPhone but they're not showing up on my MacBook right now. Followed Stick's directions but didn't work. Totally at a loss here on what to do next!

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    @Sandman6472 said:
    Took a few pics on my iPhone but they're not showing up on my MacBook right now. Followed Stick's directions but didn't work. Totally at a loss here on what to do next!

    Did you get a S, SE or Autobahn?

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335

    Sandy those instructions should be for the iPhone. If that’s where your pictures are.

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