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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    @Sandman6472 said:
    Another punch for 2025 everyone!
    Finally folks, the Sandman has bought a new vehicle!!! They're bringing it to the house as I type this. Details to follow. Got the odometer up to 79,996...never made it to 80K! But hey, that's life. Lots for me to learn these next few days!!!

    Congratulations. I suspect it is the grey GTI

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,325

    I gotta say, while lookey-looing around the BMW lot yesterday, nothing save for the Z4 caught my eye as attractive. Well, maybe the 3 series, but the 2 looks to Lego/Mr. Roboto. The 5 is just awkward, and the new X3 seems to come from the same committee that designed the new 2.

    The latest 3er has been uglied up as well- particularly the front fascia. And of course the digital dash is an ergonomic fiasco.
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    Didn’t a couple of top BMW designers leave and go to KIA. Maybe we’ll see ya in a KIA.

    jmonroe
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,342
    Probably got a new Tucson.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,493

    @mjfloyd1 said:
    Welp, the 4Runner that was supposed to arrive in 20-ish days may arrive today. I guess I gotta tell my wife since I may pick it up tomorrow.

    He just sent a text that it just arrived

    Sweet!

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,493

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    @Sandman6472 said:
    Another punch for 2025 everyone!
    Finally folks, the Sandman has bought a new vehicle!!! They're bringing it to the house as I type this. Details to follow. Got the odometer up to 79,996...never made it to 80K! But hey, that's life. Lots for me to learn these next few days!!!

    Congratulations. I suspect it is the grey GTI

    I hope so!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,342
    interesting color on the Toyota. what was the delay related to? Defective lug nuts or something?

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    edited July 2

    Bolts for the front air dam. Apparently they had been falling off. Awkward

    Heritage blue. It is apparently a traditional “heritage” Yota color. It looks lighter in the sun and changes with different amounts of light. It’s a polarizing color and that’s ok.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    I can picture that color on a Corona.
    Not sure if this is it. Pic seems too light.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,280
    @Sandman6472 - I'm stubborn... I'd have driven a few blocks to watch it click over 80k. Congrats on the new ride!
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,342
    i'd be afraid they would deduct for the higher miles.

    actually once I have a deal set I want to do it immediately. Not take any chances with my trade in.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    I'm sure it's pretty easy to change the vehicle line-up but just can't remember how to do it. I did put some photos on the iPhone but not sure how to upload those either. Tech is not my strong suit by any means!

    2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,325
    jmonroe1 said:

    I gotta say, while lookey-looing around the BMW lot yesterday, nothing save for the Z4 caught my eye as attractive. Well, maybe the 3 series, but the 2 looks to Lego/Mr. Roboto. The 5 is just awkward, and the new X3 seems to come from the same committee that designed the new 2.

    The latest 3er has been uglied up as well- particularly the front fascia. And of course the digital dash is an ergonomic fiasco.
    ————————————————
    Didn’t a couple of top BMW designers leave and go to KIA. Maybe we’ll see ya in a KIA.

    jmonroe
    Audi lost some designers to Hyundai. BMW lost an engineer from BMW M. Not enough for me to head in that direction.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,342
    edited July 2
    sandy, for the pictures, click the drop down arrow on the icon that looks like a picture, and hit "choose files" then follow it to your pictures list and select the one you want and hit enter.



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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,325
    mjfloyd1 said:

    Bolts for the front air dam. Apparently they had been falling off. Awkward

    Heritage blue. It is apparently a traditional “heritage” Yota color. It looks lighter in the sun and changes with different amounts of light. It’s a polarizing color and that’s ok.

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    Are you sure the color isn’t Chameleon? :o

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,342
    the signature takes some looking. click your image to bring up your profile. there is a blue box with a down arrow to "edit Profile" Click that, and it brings up another menu page. On the right side list, look for signature settings and click that. If I got this right and you followed along, that should bring up a text box with your current signature. fix it, and save then back out.

    if it doesn't work you don't need to pay my bill.

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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,068
    @Sandman6472 Congrats! We want pictures!
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,824

    Congrats @Sandman6472 !!

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,493

    @28firefighter - good god that’s gorgeous!

    @Sandman6472 - nice job! I’m so glad you got the GTI! Can’t wait to hear your driving impressions!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,325
    stickguy said:

    now I am curious. need to stop at the BMW store (have not been to one in many years) just to see what the new models look like!

    Munich's Vehicle Uglification Program continues to knock it out of the park.
    M340i:

    X3:

    530


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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,175
    @roadburner - worse that the Bangle days?

    I'm not impressed with the styling, either. But, there will always be those folks who are captivated by the Roundel.

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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618
    Michaell said:

    But, there will always be those folks who are captivated by the Roundel.

    Well, that's certainly one way to put it.

    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,824

    I like the i5 the way it drives for sure, but not a fan of the style.

    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    xwesx said:

    A Mustang is a monster, size wise, compared to a Cayman!

    The length of the hood takes some getting used too.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198

    Another punch for 2025 everyone!
    Finally folks, the Sandman has bought a new vehicle!!! They're bringing it to the house as I type this. Details to follow. Got the odometer up to 79,996...never made it to 80K! But hey, that's life. Lots for me to learn these next few days!!!

    Congratulations, I know it’s been a long journey.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,946

    Congrats Sandy!!

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    @28firefighter said:

    Well. I can help for now. And yes I know it’s too nice to have the top up, but we’re waiting on parts from the motherland to fix it (dealer is dealing with it) and I don’t want to tempt fate.

    Looks good. I wondered if that was a fried egg headlight year.

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,120
    kyfdx said:

    nyccarguy said:

    @kyfdx said:

    That would be a good replacement for the Cayman

    The problem being that to get a Mustang GT that handles well-ish, it’s not going to be $40K. It’s going to be a lot more.

    I wouldn't be getting it to carve canyons... Just for the big growly noises when I push the GO pedal.

    When I had my Mustang Cobra, firing it up and listening to it bark and reverberate off the garage walls, and then pulling it out on to the driveway and giving it some revs before winding it out down the cul-de-sac was one of life's great pleasures.

    Interestingly, it was more of a comfort cruiser (albeit a fast one) than a canon carver. I took all day trips in it and was never uncomfortable. Even the seats were heavily padded (with some bolsters just in case you thought about getting a little rowdy).
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    I still find the 3-series handsome (a new one is out relative soon, right?).

    The X3 is bold to say the least. Audi’s approach to the new Q5 is a good example of a solid update with restraint (as was MB’s recent GLC update).

    The 5-series…I think it’s just a little plain. It needs the M Sport exterior to look decent. I’m still a little drawn to this used i5 M60. I drove it when it first became available, which was around 6 weeks ago and it’s been reduced almost $10k. So it’s almost $30k below MSRP, but I’m quite sure that’s not nearly enough to cut your losses on a luxury EV, particularly one that has an EPA range of around 250 miles.


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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    In contrast, the smooth styling of the Lucid Air is really growing on me. This example is on the standard wheels and finishes, and yet I find it very attractive. I appreciate styling that doesn’t need to be dressed up to be striking.


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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,701
    I like the Lucid. The financial viability worries me though.

    Congrats on the punches!

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,946
    edited July 3
    breld said:

    I still find the 3-series handsome (a new one is out relative soon, right?).

    The X3 is bold to say the least. Audi’s approach to the new Q5 is a good example of a solid update with restraint (as was MB’s recent GLC update).

    The 5-series…I think it’s just a little plain. It needs the M Sport exterior to look decent. I’m still a little drawn to this used i5 M60. I drove it when it first became available, which was around 6 weeks ago and it’s been reduced almost $10k. So it’s almost $30k below MSRP, but I’m quite sure that’s not nearly enough to cut your losses on a luxury EV, particularly one that has an EPA range of around 250 miles.


    250 is not enough. Our Mercedes tops out a little over 300 and since I drive like I have feet the size of Shaq's I tend to get under 300. I'd like 350-375 so that an 80% charge will get you 300.

    One thing I've noticed is that it seems to get better range around town than all highway. Maybe it is an illusion but it sure seems that way.

    On the other end of the spectrum today I was at a 1/4 tank so filled the Ram. 24 gallons... I keep forgetting it has the larger tank.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,342

    Not an illusion. My hybrid does better around town too.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,175
    stickguy said:

    Not an illusion. My hybrid does better around town too.

    Aren't hybrids optimized for in-town driving? Using the EV mode more frequently? I suspect this is why the MPG on my daughters Sportage hybrid is nowhere near the EPA estimates - that, and she has a heavy right foot (confirmed by my wife the other day as she followed her home from the tire store).

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,342

    Hybrids an EVs I think shars the feature that how you drive matters because if regen.

    And your battery is analogous to gas. Drive faster and you use it up quicker

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,280

    I think most hybrids are much more economical on short relatively slow trips but it seems that some do better on the highway for reasons that are a mystery. Watched a review of the Maverick hybrid that did that.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,785

    Both EVs and hybrids are happier in city where they can use the regen braking to recover energy and, in the case of hybrids, use the battery more often. That mostly disappears on the highway.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,785

    @breld said:
    In contrast, the smooth styling of the Lucid Air is really growing on me. This example is on the standard wheels and finishes, and yet I find it very attractive. I appreciate styling that doesn’t need to be dressed up to be striking.

    I have liked these since launch. But when an acquaintance of mine, who knows more about cars than all of us put together, said to stay far away, it sorta killed it for me. Still like the look though.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,579

    @explorerx4 said:
    I can picture that color on a Corona.
    Not sure if this is it. Pic seems too light.

    Our neighbor had this same model and color. It was an automatic with ac.

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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,068
    tifighter said:

    Both EVs and hybrids are happier in city where they can use the regen braking to recover energy and, in the case of hybrids, use the battery more often. That mostly disappears on the highway.

    Unless you live in Southern California where the freeways often turn into big parking lots. On our weekend trip it took us over an hour to get from San Clemente to Carlsbad (about 20 miles). We actually gained range!
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    When we went to CT in the truck, the range when we left was 642 miles.
    After 101 miles, the range was 642 miles! It definitley likes the highway better.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,342

    My experience with maverick hybrid is that no way it gets better mileage hammering in the highway. Sweet spot is local back roads about 40-45 and rolling hills. E en with some stop signs I can push 50 doing that. Hammering down the thruway at 75 is more like mid 30s.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,280
    stickguy said:

    My experience with maverick hybrid is that no way it gets better mileage hammering in the highway. Sweet spot is local back roads about 40-45 and rolling hills. E en with some stop signs I can push 50 doing that. Hammering down the thruway at 75 is more like mid 30s.

    Are those non-thruway highways not also highways?

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,785

    @suydam said:
    Unless you live in Southern California where the freeways often turn into big parking lots. On our weekend trip it took us over an hour to get from San Clemente to Carlsbad (about 20 miles). We actually gained range!

    Yeah, because the highway became city driving.

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  • greg1288greg1288 Member Posts: 51
    breld said:

    In contrast, the smooth styling of the Lucid Air is really growing on me. This example is on the standard wheels and finishes, and yet I find it very attractive. I appreciate styling that doesn’t need to be dressed up to be striking.


    I saw one on the road I think for the first time. Saw "Lucid" on the rear. NIce looking non-gimmicky conservative exterior with great proportions. I was impressed. Speaking of gimmicky Hyundai-Kia are the worst with the random creases and extraneous plastic pieces all over along with other non-conventional design elements that I think detract from the looks. Also not crazy about the giant black plastic grilles on a lot of new vehicles including the one on my own Toyota Crown.

    Congrats @Sandman6472 . Enjoy your new GTI
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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,280
    The diagonal grille bars on that X3 remind me of what I always assumed is a radiator support on GMT800s:

    GM could have painted those black and made the world a more aesthetic place, but they chose not to.
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