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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
That Powerstroke can flat out MOVE that 9,500# beast; I could zip by some of those vehicles in an instant, which was quite convenient given the limited visibility and 55 mph speed limits. And, I still managed 19(ish) miles per gallon on the trip with a single tank of fuel (and some to spare!) for the distance traveled that day.
https://www.subaru.com/shopping-tools/special-offers.html?offers=LowRate
She was not a fan.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Style, size is bigger than she wants. General “vibe”. Plus would incur some offsetting costs having to pay the disposition fee on the lease.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Probably high.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
She is getting a hybrid premium. So the mid level model. Adds a lot of features she wants. Sticker on those is about $39.5 +/-
36 months might be too steep a payment even with low interest rate.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Has she considered a lease?
The gas savings of a Mazda CX-50 hybrid compared to a regular Mazda CX-50 will only be about $400 a year if she drives about 12k a year. The higher interest rate is going to more than erase that savings, although there will be a small benefit to the planet + the hybrid has more power.
I like taking 522 to relax a bit on the way back from the Outer Banks after dealing with getting off the island, I-64 and I-81.
I'm familiar with this because when we were car shopping early last summer my wife at first wanted a CR-V hybrid. The problem was the the list price of the CR-V hybrid was somewhere around 5k more than a competing non-hybrid Mazda or Subaru. Plus the Honda dealer added on a 3k protection package + the interest rate was higher. The result was that a CR-V hybrid actually cost about 10k more than a non-hybrid Outback. Again, it would have saved us about 400 a year in gas, but that would take about 25 years to pay off, which just didn't make sense. Plus we actually liked the Outback better than the CR-V anyway.
One difference between the CX-50 and the CX-5 is that the 50 has a torsion-beam rear suspension, which I didn't like and could feel. The CX-5 has an independent rear suspension, plus costs slightly less.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
She wants a hybrid in general. In this case it is also quicker. A base engine gasser is too pokey and doesn’t want the turbo.
I think the discount is $1,200-1,400 (before rebates). No clue if the non hybrid has bigger discounts.
For the financing I expect her to pay it off quite a bit early. Would put more down if they were not paying for a wedding in June also! Her current Mazda is a lease and she does not want to do another one.
All the reviews I watched were complimentary to the driving experience. Has to be a step up (but feel similar) to the CX-30 she has now. In any case, she loves it which is really what matters!
Reviews overall are also very positive. It’s basically a rav4 underneath too (just with a Mazda ICE).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I’ve never leased nor do I ever plan to. But, am I to infer from what you said, that once you lease from a given manufacturer, you’re pretty much locked into that manufacture from then on unless you’re willing to bight the bullet and take a deal that’s probably not as good as you’ll get from the same manufacturer. If I’m right you better hit a home run the first time around.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
OK, I inferred wrong but in @stickguy’s case he specifically said his daughter would take a hit if she moved on and she didn’t like the thought of that. I’ve heard the same thing from a couple people I know that have leased. However, fortunately for them, saving the most bucks wasn’t important to them so they moved on and didn’t worry about it. FWIW, one of them had a BMW and moved on to a Benz lease and the other had a Honda and moved on to a Subie lease.
Just curious but overall, how often would you guesstimate that, money wise, you are better off staying with the same manufacturer?
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Both the Q5 and Grand Cherokee should be completely new models by the time our current leases are up so there’s a possibility we just roll into 2 new models.
Both of us are satisfied and other than having to reset the Audi MMI (thanks, YouTube) both have been trouble free.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
Since she has a CX-30 she probably has mastered the steep learning curve for Mazda’s antique infotainment system. I think that would be a big impediment to my ever considering a Mazda product.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Thanks! Good to know. I have an appointment for ours next week. I’ll plug it in.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Part of the charm of the leasehackr calculator is that when you input all of the pertinent data, it spits out a score on the bottom. The score is in years. As in how many years it would take to lease the car at this price to own it.
If your score is 5/6/7 years, then you are better off financing.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
the infotainment IMO is one of those things that once you get used to it, is perfectly fine. She seems to have no issues and easily gets it to do whatever she wants (I know she always just plugs her phone in and streams stuff). The one day I used it, I couldn't get it to do much of anything (partly because it was all set up for her phone).
Actually the RDX was the same thing. It was different, and all kinds of drama from people on how impossible it is, terrible, yada yada. And when I tried to use it in my SILs RDX (she got one before us) it made little sense. But once I got one and read the instructions and played with it, no issues at all. I actually kind of like it, and there is some smart logic behind the design. Matter of opinion of course if you want a touch screen or not (some plusses and minuses to that for sure).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
worst option is taking it to the end and just giving it back, where you have to pay Mazda finance to take it off your hands (disposition fee) and the other brand doesn't give you any kind of spif.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I didn’t charge mine until the night before I took it to the dealership. Some people have been charging as normal while some have parked their Jeep two miles away and won’t get within 50 feet of it without wearing a pair of asbestos underwear.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I didn’t charge mine until the night before I took it to the dealership. Some people have been charging as normal while some have parked their Jeep two miles away and won’t get within 50 feet of it without wearing a pair of asbestos underwear.
Almost four years of PHEV charging (120v) in the garage and I, along with my humble abode, remain singe-free.
Knock wood veneer.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
I’ve had the same experience. The thing is, when the 95B recall was issued Jeep recommended not charging the Jeep as well as parking it outside. Some people immediately freaked out while the majority were at least borderline reasonable.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Yesterday, on my way to work, I got my answer:
I only missed by 24 days.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
If I keep either that long for us definitely years.
RDX is a month short of 5 years and is sitting at about 28k. Ford is just under 8k and 3 months short of 2 years. And these days our usage is actually down!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
My SIL has a,2018 RDX Advance she bought new. It is closing in on 80k. The only issue she's had is the pano roof shade jammed and had to be replaced under warranty
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
I’ve had the same experience. The thing is, when the 95B recall was issued Jeep recommended not charging the Jeep as well as parking it outside. Some people immediately freaked out while the majority were at least borderline reasonable.
To be honest, if Audi issued a similar recommendation, it would certainly begin my "time to consider moving-on" wheels spinning.
The closest issue for the A7, iirc, was to not use the portable EVSE supplied with the car for 240v (120 was okey dokey; I only have 120 in the garage), it was swapped out under recall for a more robust unit.
Growing pains; but I still enjoy the option of local drives without waking the sleeping dinosaur. Still considering a Lucid lease, if the wheel of spending lands on "moving on!"
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
The closest issue for the A7, iirc, was to not use the portable EVSE supplied with the car for 240v (120 was okey dokey; I only have 120 in the garage), it was swapped out under recall for a more robust unit.
Growing pains; but I still enjoy the option of local drives without waking the sleeping dinosaur. Still considering a Lucid lease, if the wheel of spending lands on "moving on!"
The Lucid is a very attractive package. I am concerned with long-term viability of the company though. The upcoming SUV looks cool too.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
I am way too risk adverse to get involved with a potentially unstable company.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible