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First things first, i could not get to a conforatble driving position!, adjusted the crappy seats for 5 minuites and still could not set them rite. the stering wheel is stuck at a constant 30degrees tilt forward like a bus. driving the CRV was a disaster, tons of road noise, buzzy 4banger with NO power down low, underdampened ride like an old Lincoln... i told the sailsman where i can turn around because this car was not for me!
the best part is that for 22K you dont get a center console or a V6 ! ESCAPE WINS no compairsion
I consider a "beefed-up" CD4-E applied on a 3.0 liter engine to be a "new transmission" since it should have required significant changes and testing and this result has not yet been fully tested in production or the marketplace. Yes, you could say we have a "new" transmission now. As always, when you actually buy a car you take what's there. My post was just to share my own caution with you and others. That's why we're here, right? As far as the CVT, you can't buy that now and I don't expect it soon enough from Ford to influence my current buying decision on Escape.
I was considering leasing it, but the prices were too high. I was going to wait for an incentive of some sort.
One feature I really appreciate on the Escape are the TWO grab-handles each for both the driver and front passenger. Very practical assistance for entry and exit. The Honda CRV doesn't have any.
I've heard a rumor that a 2.3 litre four cylinder will be offered in the next year or two. That's when I'll get serious about buying. What excellent dimensions this Escape has - inside and out. Good luck to all - take your time and order it exactly as you want.
I got mine for about $300 under list. You did great!
Congrats.
And, re. the sad news of delivery date, your dealer might be a bit too pessimistic.
Also, make sure you get the actual order number from your dealer! That way you can track your purchase through Ford's Customer Service Center.
I'm not too sure about the price, though. I've ordered a XLT 4WD, black, 3.0 V6 engine, Leather group, Power Moonroof, Privacy glass, Front Side Airbags.
The invoice price is $23,196.
I'm paying $23,891 for the car, including all fees AND the destination charge, excluding tax and license, but no other hidden charges.
Does this sound reasonable?
Check it out.
Thanks in advance!
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/thefordescapeclub
There is a good mixture of people who have ordered their Escapes and waiting their arrival and those of us who have them. Great discussions about many subjects.
We decided we wanted to lease for 2 years...because it is a brand new model of car and we didn't want to commit to it by buying....
the bottom line is....they tried to get us to sign a lease of $508.00 per month with a 12,300 residual....isn't that insane??...To make a long story short...we walked out...(he said he could sell us the expedition for 500 p/m)...uhm...if you can do an expedition for 500 a month...than you should be able to lease an escape for 350 a month...there is an 18k difference in resale price...I hate this.....
What is anyone else experience with leasing for 24 months on this vehicle.....I appreciate any feedback....Thanks...CM
I am going to wait or purchase another vehicle.
Anyone else have any thoughts?
was the best value for the money .... suddenly, there is a "crack" in my confidence, and I am becoming concerned. A windshield wiper recall??? Ford has been making electric wipers for 50 years ... they cannot design a functioning wiper for the Escape??? And delivery? I ordered mine two weeks ago, and the dealer says he still does not have an allocation. I cannot believe a major auto company cannot align suppliers. I am beginning to suspect Ford has acres of Explorers they cannot dump, and will make it very difficult to get an Escape. It seems there is politics in everything!!
I have used Cooper Tires for several years and find them very reliable. Also, there is now a Canada Ford Escape Club at the yahoo site.
I've used Pirelli tires on my 4X4 cars and I swear by them. I have Pirelli Scorpion ATs on my Explorer and they are an agressive tire. Once my Escape arrives I will do my best to work with the dealership to swap the Firestones for something else, preferrably Pirelli tires. I seem to recall them talking about putting Michelin tires on it for me. I know exactly what you are talking about with having crappy tires in bad weather. I once had a Jeep Cherokee that wasn't safe on snow and the tires were new. I had them changed to something else (and I can't remember what tires it was) and the difference was like night and day.
While I'm posting, I may as well vent! I ordered my fully loaded XLT on September 30th. The dealership told me it had been assigned a build date and had a delivery date of November 20th. I've been in touch with the dealership and no signs of the vehicle. I also questioned whether the delay was due to recalls or if something else was holding things up. He claims the information from the computer still shows the November 20th date and claims it's on its way. In the meantime the mileage is counting on my 97 Explorer that is getting traded in. Who knows, maybe it will be in before Christmas.
ESU Netdude
Have any of you Escape 4X4 drivers tried to back up and turn while in 4 wheel drive??? It won't do it on mine... It justs stops...I have not asked the service dept if this is normal. Let me know..
I saw a test on a local news program where they took the same two front wheel drive cars, put the same snow tires on them except one had studs and the other did not. They placed both vehicles on a local ice-hockey arena floor and tested them. The studs did not help at all. In fact, it appeared on the report that the studs made it worse on the icy conditions. Just my $.02
Delivery date was projected at Nov 9, but the best I have heard is I might have it by Christmas, so hang on....a lot...kind of a hassle because I traded a car, so i don't want to drive my trade in too much, etc etc.
See the following report:
www.cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/cars/tires/tiretests.html
I had a Ford Crown Victoria, rear wheel drive, a number of years ago. We moved to Northern Iowa where snow/ice is a major challenge.
Before I got the studded snow tires I was slipping and sliding all over creation on the hard, impacted snow/ice cover that lasted months on the roads.
After, no problems. Traction was incredible. Braking was a huge improvment.
Many states do not allow studded tires because they DO work so well, so well that they tear up the roads!
Studded tires work marvelously, if you can use them.
In test after test after test, all-seasons are shown to be dramatically worse than winter tires in snow/ice traction (cornering, braking, straight ahead). In fact, some U.S. states REQUIRE you to use approved winter tires on some highways.
If you're concerned about damage to highways, have a look at Nokian Hakka-1 winters tires from Finland (Les Schwab has them) that can be studded with their innovative "eco-stud". I believe it's a non-metal retractable stud. The Nokians will cost you double what a set of cheapo winters will though.
I switched over to studded Coooper Weathermasters last week after some very scary experiences with the stock all-seasons on ice/snow in my 4x4 Escape.
WOW what an improvement! In fact, the dry road handling has improved as well. Very Happy despite the increased road noise. Highly recommended. Stress level has decreased substantially.
They are a major cause of rutting which in turn holds water and ta da...ice. Even extremly high quality concrete pavements, not to mention bituminous pavements, they will deteriorate. I would guess that the European folks have less heavy loading so do not exhibit this. Before some says "Well European Pavements are better", this is a surface charecteristic, not a cross section problem.