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That would be great news - if it is not just a simple rebadge. I was shopping for a new SUV - disappointed with what Lexus has to offer. IMO the Sequoia is a better all around SUV unless you need the extra off road capabilities.
If you pay a $15-20K premium you should at least get a bigger/more powerful V8. I still wonder how Toyota gets by with using the same engine in the 4-Runner, Tundra, Sequoia, LC and LX470. No matter how good the engine is - you would think the LX470 buyer would expect 100 more HP than the guy with a base V8 Tundra? I also wonder why the LC and LX470 require premium gas. Is that seen as an advantage / status symbol? It sure does not do much to increase performance.
Oh, I know you are refering to the hp. Sorry once again. Toyota won't join the hp race, rather a tweak, maybe a hybrid V8 powerplant in their f/s trucks and SUV's, starting from the Lexus family and trickling downwards to the Toyotas. BTW, Toyota is doing a total redesign of the Seq in 2005 as an MY 2006 release, so may be time for a 300+hp V8 hybrid engine, standard on the Lexus version of the Sequoia, and optional on the Seq. Just a guess.
But please no Armada or QX. Those trucks are duds and are not going to make too much dent in the market. Ford and Chevy rules, not Toyota or Nissan.
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"Tune-up" goes back, mostly, to the days of mechanical ignition points.
These days other than factory specified oil and filter changes the earliest "tune-up" items would be the timing belt and spark plugs, both typically at about 100K miles.
The on-board diagnostics will warn you of any other "tune-up" "matters".
I currently own a 91 crusier that has been trouble free for 150k miles.
I did a fair amount of research - the Michelin Cross Terrain is - IMO - over priced and over rated.
You can read reviews on most tires over at WWW.tirerack.com.
Phantom Gray Pearl/Oak Leather
Toyo Guard Protection Group (XY70)
Sunroof Wind Deflector (CF10)
Color-Keyed Grille W/stnls Steel Insert (CG90)
Rear Spoiler (CX90)
DVD System (ED20)
JBL/6 CD Changer (EJAT)
Driver & Side airbags (GYAT)
Factory wheel locks (LK10)
Cargo Net (PC50)
Carpet Mats/Trunk Mat (PV50)
Daytime Running Lights (RLAT)
The MSRP on the vehicle is $45,832 I was able to get them down to $42,566 (including a B.S. Dealer Preparation Fee which they stated was $569). My sales person initially tried to tack on the Dealer Prep Fee to the $42,566 price but her boss agreed to include the Dealer Prep Fee in the $42,566 price (They probably just waived the B.S. fee). Now I really only wanted to pay no more than 91% of the MSRP (I got that from Kiplinger's Annual Car Buyer's Guide - Decemebr 2003). But I ended up paying 91.7% of the Dealer Prep Fee plus the MSRP. I feel I paid about $800 to $900 more than I should have but including the Dealer Prep Fee maybe it’s more like $300 to $400.
Do most of you agree with my assessment or did I actually get a good deal?
An additional factor is that I'll be exporting this vehicle to the US Virgin Islands where the MSRP on the same vehicle would be at least $10,000 more.
I'm also intrigued by the fact that everyone seems to be trying to get they're vehicles for about $500 over invoice. Is this the proper buying perspective or is a percentage of the MSRP O.K.?
P.S. I don't mind brutal honesty. I’m really looking for honest and direct insight from as many people as possible.
I'd consider it a damn good deal but I'd never have beaten them up quite so thoroughly, close, but not quite.
Tires - I purchased Toyo M410's at 40K miles, I have 10K on them now and they are working fine.
Rim Pitting - I cleaned the rims w/Eagle and also with the Prestone product, it took away the black pitting and then I put a coat of wax on them. I have had no more pitting issues with the rims. Some one wrote an article on the whole process of pitting (acid action) and stated keeping a coat of wax on them will prevent it. So far so good.
Happy motoring w/your Sequioa.
If true, that would be great deal, but I think it is more likely $5000 under MSRP, which is still a good deal, but not under invoice.
Buy her a $1000 Diamond for under the tree, let her pick the $35k gift.
As far as $5,000 under invoice or MSRP.. If it's MSRP then with our MSRP at $46,060 - $5000 = $41,060.. $40,734 our invoice + 500 = $41,234. Close but you still got a good deal. I only have one dealership (so far) willing to do the $500 over invoice. I only asked one dealership. Dealer 1 wanted $4k over and then said he'd split it. He's in for a surprise.. Once I have dealer 2 willing to work with me I'll see if I can do better with other dealers.. 8-)
BUT, stevek80, it appears to me that the choice of the Sequoia is more like yours than hers. Now, whatever the *surprise* is, you'd better make sure it's what she wants and not what YOU want imposed on her
Yicko - how many miles on your 2003? I've seen 2003's for sale with 18K to 23K miles. That seems like nothing for these trucks but would explain the price drop..
"If you go with the Sequoia, you may also want to wait. I have heard that it will receive a moderate freshening outside and a substantial re-do on the inside. "
Is this true? Does anyone know what's changed with the '04.. if anything?
Also, I'm new here.. Why would a topic be "read only" like the Sequoia vs Expedition.. Thanks!
Why would a topic be "read only" like the Sequoia vs Expedition.. Thanks!
If a topic remains idle for a given time it automatically becomes "archived" and read only. Apparently, there wasn't enough interest in the comparison.
tidester, host
1st post here...
I have an '04 SR5 on order which I'm eagerly awaiting. Can anyone tell me if the dealer can add the steering wheel audio controls, and if so how much $? It's without the Preferred Package.
Thanks!
John
My understanding is the SR5 has front and rear as standard and the Limited has dual front (ea. front passenger) plus rear. Am I correct? Is there an option for dual front on the SR5. TIA, John