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Personally, I'm not worried about it.
Could be "media"..but the first paragraph says...one customer...which makes me believe its a production version
Here is the first paragraph
The Koreans have gotten their allocation of the new 2009 Hyundai Genesis Coupes and it seems like one customer felt his Genesis Coupe could push the limits a little more than he thought possible. Needless to say that he learned the hard way by crashing into the concrete base of a metal light pole.
This is BAD news not good, indicating that just maybe that a Hyundai dealer is NOT where folks go to spend $35 large. This just a few short months after it became available and also became about the most advertised vehicle around. Can you imagine what's happening to those first few souls that paid something close to MSRP for the thing - they are being rewarded (like most Hyundai owners are) with a car with bad resale values, Not good for Hyundai and not good for the Genesis owner. Too bad, the car itself deserves so much more.
We know what the article says, but we don't know if the details are correct. For all we know, the photographer just walked up and saw the Genesis Coupe all crashed up and went from there, he/she may have never spoken to the actual driver to know if he/she was an owner or someone test driving for the company or what.
For that, we have to take it with a grain of salt. It's a shame to see it as it is and ultimately...we do see that the air bags didn't deploy and clearly...should have. However, I've never heard of Hyundai having an issue with air bag deployment, well...lack thereof. If anything, they've had recalls to deal with sensors to be replaced so that air bags wouldn't deploy inadvertently.
What will happen with car prices in 2009?
What is happening to those first few souls who paid close to MSRP for the honor of owning the first Genesis in their neighborhood is the same thing that happens to anyone who pays a premium for "first on my block" status. This happens all the time with new models... it is hardly unique to the Genesis, or Hyundai.
Just as Hyundai offering the Genesis at a good discount is hardly unique in the luxury sedan market right now. Remember the posts from people talking about huge discounts available on other luxury cars, e.g. Infinitis and Audis? What amazes me is that Hyundai was able to hold off this long before putting big discounts on the Genesis, given economic conditions as they are. And there are still no factory rebates on the car... which not many other luxury sedans can say.
Meanwhile, still no personal luck in locating a satin pearl white 4.6 V8 with cashmere interior and no technology package. Anyone? Is this combo merely the imagination of a creative sales brochure writer?
As for those owners paid at or above MSRP earlier on the Genesis - that was nothing new, as it is the general trend for new cars.
As for the bad resale values, you know this how? FWIW, the predicted residual for the Genesis has been fantastic, beating out others in the class, even though luxury vehicles depreciate like a rock in general across the board.
The all-new Hyundai Genesis sets a unique tone among our garaged vehicles. It's not the fastest, smoothest, most comfortable or most luxurious. It's not the most aerodynamic, innovative or technically advanced. What makes the flagship Hyundai memorable is its accuracy. While automakers are constantly shooting arrows into new segments hoping they will stick, few are able to hit their intended mark with their first shot. Hyundai has done it. Now, the automaker just has to figure out how to get the consumers behind the wheel in today's shattered marketplace.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/13/in-the-autoblog-garage-2009-hyundai-genesis-s- edan/
I work on both airbags and steering wheels for a living, and believe me, the steering wheel is supposed to bend. If it was stiff, it would cause even more damage to the occupant. With the steering wheel being bent the way it is, though, that tells me the person was unbelted. Which is stupid step number one.
Also, with the angle crash appears to have occurred, it's right in between a side and a frontal crash. It's likely not that the airbags failed to go of -- the computer that collects the data and determines if it is a good course of action probably decided a "no-deploy" was the best case.
Airbags help, for sure, but can sometimes do more harm than good. If you're incorrectly seated, unbelted, etc., they can induce injuries you may otherwise have not sustained. That's why you should always wear your seatbelt! Airbags work with seatbelts as a system for the maximum safety effects.
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If they sell a few more I imagine I'll see them just as often as I see the Azera, which is not all that often - once or twice a week at best. But that's fine for a car that should offer a degree of exclusivity.
I also would have to agree that the discounts that are being quoted would not add up the same way on a base model car. Since it was listed as $1900 under invoice you would just see the difference of the lesser markup in the base car in the total discount.
I would guess maybe the dealer has a bunch of Genesis inventory sitting around??? We have kept our stock to no more than 2 at a time and have (so far) been able to keep pricing at MSRP. Of course, right now if some one came in and made almost any offer over invoice I would probably take it. Seems like the car market has been down a little here lately..................................
If they are saying 1200 were sold in a one month span, the U.S. is a pretty big piece of land. Does anyone know the total Genesis sales figures since they've been out?
I see Genesis at least once a week. On one lucky day, I saw three different ones. They're all V6, though.
USA Today Money article
BTW, I have no clue what this strange ICON is on my post, must be a default...It's not my car...
This car is absolutely incredible. After Break in (600 miles) popped it to 140 MPH like nothing.. Not even sure what it's top end is. Going 100-120 MPH feels like 60 MPH. Smooth and secure. Handling is, IMHO, that of a Sports Luxury car... I've already smoked BMW's, Lexus', Cadillac STS's, Audis.. you name it. I'm on the road very early (light traffic) and you can find other enthusiasts to play around with, respectably... No one can/has stay with me. When I see them step on the gas to try to "show me what they have" they obviously have a few second lead and even with that I'm passing them in a matter of seconds.
The sound system is insane, might as well have the Allman brothers in the car with me, sounds the same.
Navigation system, incredibly accurate. Blows away my Magellan Majesto I paid $400 for less than a year ago.
Phone and bluetooth pairing is automatic and sound quality for me and the other person is great.
Upgraded the XM to get Howard Stern (Sirius upgrade package), took me 15 minutes on the phone, piece of cake...
Click off the ESC and I'm SMOKING the tires and I feel like I'm 16 again with my old Mustang, except the handling is obviously another story.
Gas mileage is outstanding (solid 25-26 HWY)... when I drive the speed limit. Otherwise I'm still in the 18 -20 range between my "spurts" of "driving" this car as it can be driven.
If you have a few extra G's, I highly recommend the V8 over the V6. The power, options, handling and overall driving experience are just too good to be true...at $40K ?? Jeez... And people will still buy a "BRAND NAME" for $20k more.. Ego's run riot, this is a great car and Hyundai is clearly making great strides.
BTW, I'm not a salesman (I re-read my post and I sure sound like one...just stating the facts as I experience them), I'm a CFO, so I look for value & results... This car is value and results...performance
The first one seemed to be silver (it was twilight, so hard to tell), and I only caught the rear-left quadrant. At first I thought it was a Bimmer 5 series, but knew something was different. Turned my head as it passed to my left, and sure enough, the "flying H" was prominently displayed.
The second one was just minutes later, a beautiful light-blue. Again, wasn't sure what it was, and thought it was a Lexus LS for a while just based on the taillights, then noticed that some details were definitely not Lexus. Moved up right behind it to take a picture with my cell phone, and sure enough, saw the "flying H." I passed it on the right, and it was an elderly couple, with the lady driving. If I am not mistaken, she had a big smile on her face - not surprised.
BTW, I stopped by Garden Grove Hyundai a couple of months ago, and not only did they have 8+ Genesises on the lot, it was unexpected to find 2 V8's - one silver, one black, I think.
Also I saw one coming in to the student parking lot near the science library once. He looked like a student. Good for him.
PS FYI paid $800 over invoice. Only 12 in district (V8) and no more for90 days. Also there will be a substantial price increase $1800-$2000.
Go to ebay motors. (www.ebay.com). click on ebay parts and accessories. In the search box. type in " 2009 Hyundai Genesis KDM emblem " You can purchase with the buy now option both front and rear fro $29.98 + shipping. The 18" center caps are there for a buy now price of $69.99 + shipping. I have the rear badget on mine. The other day stopped a stop light the guy behind got very close - put his glass on just to find out "WHAT KIND OF AUTO WAS SETTING AHEAD OF HIM" It was humerous.
Good luck
Doug
Deal appears to be legit as I called to confirm. They are charging rather high fees - $249 Doc fee, $595 Bank fee, $5 on-line fee, $354 DMV fees, $7.50 Tire tax (req. in NJ) but still less than other dealers in the area. Only for cars on the lot. Only has one Tech Pkg.
Website also said that deal was good until Nov. 15 not end of Nov.
Go to ebay motors. (www.ebay.com). click on ebay parts and accessories. In the search box. type in " 2009 Hyundai Genesis KDM emblem " You can purchase with the buy now option both front and rear fro $29.98 + shipping. The 18" center caps are there for a buy now price of $69.99 + shipping. I have the rear badget on mine. The other day stopped a stop light the guy behind got very close - put his glass on just to find out "WHAT KIND OF AUTO WAS SETTING AHEAD OF HIM" It was humerous.
Good luck
Doug
Doug,
The wheel caps on eBay are for the V6. They will fit on the V8 but they will not look right.
To the best of my knowledge the caps that would look right are not available yet. The badges and wheel caps are what they put on the car in Korea but the V8 is not available in Korea so only the V6 wheel caps are available
No, there are 18" caps on that site. The caps for 17" are $39.00 and for the 18" there listed for $69.00.
I just found the 18" Genesis center caps that you are looking for.
1. Go to ebay - parts and accessories
2. In the search box - type in - Hyundai Genesis KDM 18" center caps
3. They are listed - buy for $69.98 + shipping
4. The ebay item # is 280279630394
5. There are 2 items listed on this page.
6. Don't type in the year 2009 - Just Hyundai Genesis 18" center caps
Doug
I have the caps on my V6 18" wheels. Got them from eBay.
I was trying to explain that the V8 18" wheels are different from the V6 18' wheels. The caps for the V6 will fit on the V8 but they will not look right.
Michael
As if I or anyone would trade in their Mercedes for a Hyundai?
Not gonna happen.
They should have changed the name. If they would have called it "cheap german ripoff" I would be more likely to buy it than "Hyundai"
I sat in one at an Auto show, it does not have the stout feel of a german car.
No way - now how is any serious luxury buyer going to be caught dead in a Hyundai. I like having a hot girlfriend-- pull up in a Hyundai? Yeah right.
Many of us here, myself included, feel that with the Genesis, Hyundai has produced a car worthy to consider a luxury brand. Who gives a flip about the badge. For the people that matters to (like yourself) you won't be buying anyway. There are many Mercedes and Lexus owners who have made the switch. Why? Because they see not only quality but value in the purchase.
It's unfortunate you don't open your eyes and mind that it could be possible to produce a quality luxury car that's not a german brand. So please don't crap on this thread. Let the people here discuss the pros and cons of the car without rancid posts. Thank you.
both packages ... nav ... tech.... etc ... List $ 40,100.00 ....
been a lexas man since 1989 when they opened in the usa .
the genesis is a MONSTER . , part lexus LS 400 , 430 , 460 L ,
and has double pain glass like a mercedes s 550 .
the genesis is a little bit of all the goodness in the great production cars of the past 18 years . WHAT TOTALLY CRACKS ME UP IS THE BRAND OF THE RADIO ...
THE RADIO IS CALLED A "lexicon" .... WOW !
mitchell rowe
happy thanksgiving
nah ... i doubt it ...
any way :
here is some stuff you knew anyway . .... you can't replace the ls 430 , unless you buy used . THE ES 350 IS A BACKBREAKER FOR ME ... AND ALOT OF FOLKS I KNOW . the drivers seat feels good until a G force pins the lower back on some cheap camry construction coils wrapped around the hot seat wires . junk .
---- the 6 cyl. genisus is plenty . there is DOUBLE pane glass in that vehicle ( exactly like a s 550 mercedes ) ... you can't hear nothing , unless your hearing aid is cranked up full and the window is open . IT'S ONE OF THE QUIETEST VEHICLES MADE . the genisus has DUNLAP D 5000 v rated tires ... the exact tires that cme on your LS 430 when it was new ( retail about $ 225 us a tire ) ,made in japland . i drove the genisis at 138 mph at dover downs for an hour straight , andf the vehicle wanted more punishment .... it was begging me . the six has a 6 speed [non-permissible content removed] xmission , and the 8 has a zf [non-permissible content removed] xmisssion . the 6 speed [non-permissible content removed] has less chance of failure . the zf responfds to very little . it is programmed to shift when IT decides . it doesn't know from "fuzzy logic" . the 6 speed ( 6 cyl ) [non-permissible content removed] xmission can decide between yes and no on an up or doenshift , as it has [non-permissible content removed] fuzzy logic , and can distinguish that it does not have to think in only 1 or 2 ... it has a maybe also .
agreed the specs are close on the genisis to the LS 430 .... but the genisis beats the LS to smitherines . ... the genisis has the electric motor power steering like the LS 460 (L ) , the LS 430 is still hydraulic fluid . THE ENGINE IS QUIET on regular fuel , unless the dot head who sold you the gasoline puts 20 % water in his tank at 3 in the morning , to rip the guts out of his host country citizens .
IF YOU ARE A SERIOUS BUYER ... buy the genisis . Lexus is $ 75 k with a levinson radio , and i have had one '07 and two '08's , and they are good until break in at 2000 miles , then go doenhill and burn gas .
enjoyed talking to you ... best of luck in your new genisis ... hurry up , the price is going up in $ 2000 increnments starting jan 3 , 2009 .
mitchell rowe
the ZF is built in germany .
the 3.8 six has the 6 speed japanese box .
please go on the genisis website , and see the specs , or stop at a dealer and glance at the monroney sticker .
happy thanksgiving
mitchell rowe
I have been following the Genesis for 2 years now, and if the V8 had an 8-speed tranny, those guys who already bought a model will be crying and suing as they were looking for the 2 missing gears. As the article I posted states, the 8-speed is coming in the future.
The Genesis V8 currently has the ZF 6-speed transmission with a 3.133:1 final drive ratio:
http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/library/Hynd_BH_WebSpecs07.pdf
Considering the car has been directly compared to the Lexus GS and it was basically said that the Genesis offered ALMOST everything (gadget for gadget, option for option & feature for feature) as the GS at a considerable savings, and yet nobody is crying about the GS being overpriced.