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It broke 3 times? Hmmm.
445 miles in any direction here and you're only in the next state over (UT, WY, NE, KS or NM)
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
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Philadelphia to Charleston, SC is 678 miles.
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It's a good design, so the major issue with it, at this point, is perception.
2013 was a tough first year launch.
Considering sedans are out of favor and it is the most configurable in it's segment, why put the money into a redesign and it's your number 3 or 4 seller?
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
also a bright blue Focus RS. Sticker on that one was 45K. Ouch.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Turbo's and downsized engines:
Still, my normally aspirated 2.4 liter puts out 200 hp and 186lb-ft in a 2400 lb car. I don't need a turbo.
The 2018 Camry is better, as has been mentioned, for rear visibility from the driver's seat, but the 2018 Accord is superior for cargo volume/trunk space and interior room.
For cargo volume, the 2018 Accord has a class-leading 16.7 cubic feet of space in the trunk. That's huge. It's bigger than my old Oldsmobile 98 from the 1980s. As a comparison, my 2008 Accord had about a 15 foot trunk. My 2016 Accord measures in at 15.8.
The 2018 Camry has good enough cargo room, but at 15.1 feet it'll seem on the small side compared to the 2018 Accord. On big trips the extra room is likely to be useful.
For overall interior room, the 2018 Accord measures in at 105.7 cubic feet in models without the moonroof, while the 2018 Camry comes in at 100.4. The place where this might make the most difference is the rear seat. The 2018 Accord has a Lincoln-like 40.5 inches of rear legroom, while the 2018 Camry has a comfortable but more average 38 inches. For front headroom the Accord also comes out ahead at 39.1 compared to the Camry's 38.3.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
Style: Very subjective and seemingly a tie to me when looking at the 2018 Camry LE compared to the 2018 Accord. Both look somewhat strange. Maybe a slight edge to the Accord, which is growing on me as I study the details. But the non-LE models of the 2018 Camry look freakish and awful to me. Again, very subjective, obviously.
Features: 2018 Accord LX for the win with standard AndroidAuto, low-speed adaptive cruise control, standard push-button start/smart entry, and standard dual-zone climate control. None of these things are standard on the Camry LE, although everything except AndroidAuto is available on higher trims or as an option.. The only advantage for the 2018 Camry LE that I can find seems to be a standard power seat on the LE, although down at the truly entry L level that's eliminated.
Rear visibility from driver's seat: 2018 Camry for the win with Hofmeister kink
Interior room and trunk space: 2018 Accord wins
MPG: Almost certainly a tie here. The 2018 Camry currently has a class-leading 32 mpg combined, but it seems certain the 2018 Accord is going to match that.
They did put money into a mid cycle refresh for 2017 - they even changed all the front end panels. The problem is they look exactly like the previous ones so they spent the money but got nothing for it.
Fusion sales dropped way more the last year than the sedan market or as much as Accord/Camry. They could still be selling 20k-25K units per month instead of the 15K they're selling now if they had done more updates. And considering the factory is now underutilized that makes it worse.
Explorer was greenlighted 2 years ago to go on the new CD6 platform (RWD) along with a new Aviator. Apparently Mark Fields delayed or tried to kill that program outright and had planned to keep the current explorer a few more years. The new management has reversed that and is trying to speed up the new Explorer/Aviator program again but I suspect it will still take another 18 - 24 months.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2018-by-the-numbers-honda-accord-vs-toyota-camry-vs-hyundai-sonata/?ftag=CAD13782fc&bhid=25416315718523622077081880631938
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
"I was pleasantly surprised by the Camry LE’s driving dynamics. The 4-cylinder engine is remarkably strong, the transmission shifts quickly and intuitively, the steering has good weight to it, the brakes are responsive and easy to modulate, and the ride is compliant yet composed. Bumps and sharper dips have no impact on the car’s equilibrium, and the suspension expertly manages dive, squat, and roll."
But the reviewer also is mixed about the rear seat:
"....it feels low and a bit lacking in terms of support. The backrest remains reclined at too great an angle, promoting a slouched seating position, and it simply isn’t as easy to gracefully enter and exit the car.
After spending half an hour riding in the Camry’s back seat, I was ready to ride up front. It’s not torturous by any means, but neither does it feel like a place you’re willing to spend more time than is absolutely necessary. Materials used for the rear of the cabin appear to get a downgrade, too, most noticeably in the hard rather than soft material on the upper portions of the door panels."
http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/latest-reviews/first-drive-2018-toyota-camry-review-article-1.3263007
"Camrys have been known for comfortable rides, but nimble handling typically has been way down the engineers’ kaizen wish list. Yet it’s the eighth-gen Camry’s biggest improvement. This might be the best-riding and -handling Camry to date, thanks to its lower body, 1.9-inch wheelbase stretch, almost inch-broader rear track, and new control-arm and toe-link rear suspension. (Those who cut and paste the press kit will call them “double wishbones,” but technically they are not.)
Cornering is flat and unflappable with good neutral balance in all variants. Mild efforts at hooning the rear loose with late braking and steering wheel flicks are stonewalled, and careful steering into turns evinces no plowing understeer. I occasionally had to remind myself that I was, indeed, driving a Toyota product."
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/toyota/camry/2018/2018-toyota-camry-first-drive-review/
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The loaded Civic Touring in some ways is as good as an Acura.
Also, it IS curious that KIA replaces the high pressure A/C hose and never says a word. If I was indeed breaking it by my driving it like a rally car, and no one else had multiple breaks; they would question it.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
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