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Car Commercials, the good, the bad, and the annoying!

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,353
    Yes, and each ad is just another gift to Zebra Corner.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Some of them are pretty rude.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    Chevy is rude to pollute the airwaves with that dorky nonsense. Turnabout is fair play, right? :)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited January 2018
    Sure. But some of them are too raunchy to be passed around in the office.

    It does make you wonder, though. how each car company views its customers. There is definitely a difference among various brands.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316

    Some of them are pretty rude.

    Yeah, they stopped being funny a while ago.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    The ads savage the sensibilities of many viewers. These are probably the worst consistently themed ads in modern history - and GM keeps running with it. Either they prepaid some "Ad creatives" and aren't going to lose the money, or someone exec's kids in law got a job.

    The Malibu one still amuses me. So bad, it was just begging to be called out.

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    I get it that you hate them and agree they aren't great ads but hardly the worst. The "sporty Camry" grounded to the ground ad was arguably far worse. The newer Toyota ads with Jan are not much of an improvement. The Kia hamsters have to be in the discussion. Here in Canada the Hyundai espionage ads would certainly make the list. Pretty much any Nissan horror movie ad would be near the top. Several Honda ads spike the annoyance charts. The list goes on.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    As H.L. Mencken said: "Never underestimate the intelligence of the American people". So if the ads sell cars, that's all that counts. Bottom line, baby.

    It's interesting to read car ads from 100 years ago. Back then, they were still into the utility of the car, not the image so much (a bit of it appears in the really expensive cars). But even with all the "class" of those vintage ads, they still lied like rugs. Things like "Climbs the tallest mountains effortlessly, with smooth quiet power, effortless shifting, and unparalleled reliability". In 1918? I don't think so.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    Nah, the Malibu one is a farce, and the spots pandering to millennials or hipster types are up there too. The Malibu one where a "not actor" thinks it costs 80K, and is compared to something like a BMW-Tesla hybrid is just inexcusable. Are "real people" like this?

    I actually thought the hamsters were creative - those spots didn't irk me. The Toyota hyperbolic platitudes are more irritating - "sporty" Camry, "stylish" Corolla and Prius, "aggressively sophisticated" Highlander, LOL. Next they will be the most bigly bestest cars ever, believe me.

    80K Malibu LOL, MMakes me think of this
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    Many, maybe even most, people in the age group they feature are oblivious to cars. They may know brand names and have preconceptions about them but could not ID one if their life depended on it. In part that is what these ads try to get at - not saying a Malibu is as good as a Lexus or Audi or whatever, but that their preconceptions about how one might be designed and equipped weren't correct. I'm not sure why that offends you so.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    edited January 2018
    Judging by the comments all over the web, not just on the Zebra Corner parodies, but virtually everywhere the ad campaign has been mentioned, it isn't just me who rolls their eyes to the point of being audible. I think the ads annoy anyone with basic knowledge of the market. 80K Malibu? Maybe for a member of one of the "lost tribes" who has been forced into this civilization and is just learning cars.

    I am not sure why the Youtube videos mocking the dopey GM spots offend some others so B)
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    Simple. Because the parodies crossed the line of trying to be witty and funny a while ago and now are just crude and nasty.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,671
    Nissan commercials are the absolute worst.. It started way before the Star Wars tie-in.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    The parodies got lazy and decided that nasty gutter language is a way to be funny. Maybe if you're 12 or so.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    At what point did the parodies become intolerable? Even the first one (mocking the regrettable Cruze "emoji" ad, I think - yet another shallow pandering to youth) was crude. Heck, the spokesman is a parody of the Bostonian stereotype.

    Nissan ads have been awful for some time, they make me think of an ad agency ran by frat boys.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yeah, but some of them are really disgusting. They are so gratuitously obscene that it makes you cringe.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    It's Youtube. It's a Boston stereotype. It's probably cleaner than real life ;)

    And really, those commercials are so lame, they ask for every word of it. 80K BMW-Tesla hybrid Malibu LOL.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    No, it's just really vulgar, not funny at all--at least the one I'm referring to. It's mean and it's disgusting.

    Some of their parodies WERE funny, though. Like everything else, applause sometimes encourages the performer to turn up the volume and jump the shark, so to speak.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316

    No, it's just really vulgar, not funny at all--at least the one I'm referring to. It's mean and it's disgusting.

    Some of their parodies WERE funny, though. Like everything else, applause sometimes encourages the performer to turn up the volume and jump the shark, so to speak.

    This is exactly it. They started out funny. They no longer are.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    edited January 2018
    I guess it doesn't get to me, I can see things that exist just for shock value, and not be offended by them. I probably say just as bad things during my evening commute. :) Their target audience is likely 15-35 year old males, and I am not too far out of that age demographic yet.

    I still can't think of a specific ad campaign that is as hokey and irritating as "real people, not actors" - at best, it works to harm faith in humanity.
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,937
    ab348 said:

    I get it that you hate them and agree they aren't great ads but hardly the worst. The "sporty Camry" grounded to the ground ad was arguably far worse. The newer Toyota ads with Jan are not much of an improvement. The Kia hamsters have to be in the discussion. Here in Canada the Hyundai espionage ads would certainly make the list. Pretty much any Nissan horror movie ad would be near the top. Several Honda ads spike the annoyance charts. The list goes on.

    I thought Toyota's "Grounded to the Ground" ads hit the right demographic. I could believe a Toyota real buyer, not actor, would say such a thing!
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,937
    fintail said:

    I guess it doesn't get to me, I can see things that exist just for shock value, and not be offended by them. I probably say just as bad things during my evening commute. :) Their target audience is likely 15-35 year old males, and I am not too far out of that age demographic yet.

    I still can't think of a specific ad campaign that is as hokey and irritating as "real people, not actors" - at best, it works to harm faith in humanity.

    I think the fact that GM continues with the lame "Real People, not Actors" campaign for so long and for so many attempts excuses the parodies from continuing to exist for so long and for so many attempts.

    You can't parody what doesn't exist, right? I will agree the earlier ones (like the Malibu), were funnier.
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yes, but parodies are supposed to be funny, not just a transcript of a conversation in a prison latrine.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    You mean language with wicked Bahstan flair B)

    I too think the earlier ones had less shock value, and were better. The Malibu one is best, partly because of the absurdity of the original spot.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    No, it's not language, it's brutal misogyny.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    Eh, Bahstan flair. Look at the world today, it's what we've become.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Nah, they jumped the shark, definitely. They are in very dark territory.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    Spend some time on youtube or the web in general, this isn't new territory. Change is constant, not always for the positive.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    They produce some very civilized commercials in Europe. This one from Mercedes is typical of the "understated" approach that American automakers rarely use.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSlhbBBBi3A

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    Europe is a different world from the colonies in many ways, not always good, but recently, probably more good than not. You won't find a "real people, not actors" spot there, for any car.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    At one time, GM had some ads that didn't feel like they were going out of their way to insult intelligence:

    https://youtu.be/E4x0NLpM2tE

    https://youtu.be/S3Ha_sFNsqc

    https://youtu.be/IswbdmpjbnU
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    I've posted that Cadillac Style video previously. One of the best auto campaigns ever.

    The Heartbeat of America compilation is interesting. I haven't heard that jingle in years and it sounds pretty good. I guess Chevy could still use that line back in the '80s.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    I think people have fond memories of those spots 25 years later. 25 years from now, people will snicker or cringe at recent spots.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,018
    Great ads, bad cars!

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    fintail said:

    I think people have fond memories of those spots 25 years later. 25 years from now, people will snicker or cringe at recent spots.

    Well, I'm unaware of any car ad campaigns today that are actually good.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    True, none are really good. Many are inoffensive or forgettable. And some are just awful and will be remembered.
    ab348 said:



    Well, I'm unaware of any car ad campaigns today that are actually good.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,436
    I enjoyed the Subaru ads where the labs were driving the cars. Clever concept, and the situations were true to form (the human version). And of course, I have a soft spot for labs.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,436
    speaking of which, Subaru just came out with some new spots featuring the dogs. A couple are classics. Almost enough to get me to buy a Sube!

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,460
    edited February 2018
    Just saw the Fittipaldi Kia Stinger commercial. Racing drivers hawking mainstream cars always makes me think of this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ws_Bp7WYA

    "Fueled by youth" is also a questionable slogan, most youth don't buy $50K+ cars, Kias or not.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Kia is throwing a lot of money into Stinger promotion, that's for sure.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    What's with the CGI Steven Tyler, though? Creepy

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    L guess they are focusing on 50 year old buyers???
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,937
    I liked Jeeps commercials during the Superbowl. Seemed believable, unlike some real people, not actors spots from another car maker.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    Heh - the only one I can say I actually liked was the one with Jeff Goldblum.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,937
    I liked the simplicity of the off-road river drive commercial.
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  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes Member Posts: 1,019
    I think the new "real people" Chevy commercials are the worst yet. Implying that the only choice if you want a reliable vehicle is to buy a Chevrolet.
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,937
    The best marketing wasn't even a Superbowl spot, but SpaceX putting a Tesla Roadster up in orbit headed for Mars.
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Well that's a pretty expensive way to advertise! Of course, I guess you could say that stockholders are paying the gas bill.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Maybe not. Space X was launching the rocket anyway, gets tons of press coverage at the build cost of the car, additional fuel and logistics to launch not all that affected by the payload of a car, adds to the Tesla tech image as well. Just speculation as I have no numbers to work with.
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,937
    berri said:

    Maybe not. Space X was launching the rocket anyway, gets tons of press coverage at the build cost of the car, additional fuel and logistics to launch not all that affected by the payload of a car, adds to the Tesla tech image as well. Just speculation as I have no numbers to work with.

    I think your right. I heard in the past NASA or others would just use concrete blocks or something similar as a "test" payload. Musk apparently found that boring and came up with the idea to put a Tesla in Space.

    Brilliant if you ask me. Cool stuff. Probably the best Non-Science-Fiction I've seen in my lifetime (which of course includes the two side booster rockets landing themselves simultaneously and autonomously for economical re-use.
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