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Though I don't think there are any yet. The 2003s just arrived in dealers.
On the other hand, the 1998-2001 Forester never got a rebate. Only the 2002 did, and just in the months before the redesigned 2003 arrived, so that was an exception. The 2003 may not see rebates, but it's hard to say for sure.
Legacy and Outback probably will, Impreza too. Last year the Legacy got a $500 rebate at first, then later it was upped to $750. I timed it nicely and got the higher rebate on our 2002 Legacy.
Try fitzmall.com to get a quote. I see Foresters for as little as $19.3k, and as much as $400 under invoice. They're basically giving you back the entire holdback. Can't do much better than that. Do you live near DC? They have one location in Florida, too.
-juice
I feel that I can order me a Forrester for Invoice + 300 right now. However the financing is not as good as it can be. The 60 mo rate is at 3.9. Considering that the sales are down and not looking to go up anytime soon, I figure subaru would have to kick in with better financing soon. WHat's your feel on that?
texan
Edmunds invoice and Fitzmall invoice deffered last time I checked. It looked to me like fitzmall was inflating the invoice prices somewhat...
When we bought our Legacy, invoice prices matched. Dunno.
Do any Texas dealers do the no-haggle thing? It's just a much better experience. Seriously, we were treated very well, no surprises, got the car we wanted delivered flawless to us.
-juice
texan
In NJ for example, some of the packages that are listed are not available from the regional distributor. I had to purchase a few items separately because of this.
-Dennis
Someone posted a few months back from UT, inquiring about pricing; I've found that prices tend to run high here, in spite of a large supply, because demand is high. Take a drive up Little or Big Cottonwood or in the REI parking lot and try to count the Subarus. When I was shopping for mine three years ago, the first car I test drove was sold to someone else before I even brought it back; they were working up a deal when I was mistakenly allowed to take it out. While I was negotiating the price of mine, other folks were milling around it, wanting to buy it, so it was hard to move the price down much.
-juice
Also, the 1.9% financing (x24 mo) really helped.
They did not try to offer me any add-ons or unusual fees; it was a straightforward deal.
As an aside, I do not see why furniture and apliance makers can offer no interest financing while the carmakers cannot.
texan5
It's all rolled into the price. On appliances they are just rolling it all into the price. I've learned you never get something for nothing in this world. Someone somewhere is paying for everything.
-mike
In this market and economy there is nothing that one can possibly loose by waiting. I can only see upside. The prices at subaru are not going up and the financing just might come down some more...or are we in disagreement on this?
Careful.
-juice
Really, my main point was that the economics and dynamics of the auto industry are diffferent from any other retail industry.
We have here a deflationary economy.
texan5
I live in Carson City, NV and in anticipation of purchasing a '04 Forester in late summer, I'm doing my preparatory work now. What are the dealers who offer the lowest prices via Internet or otherwise. There are three dealers within 30 miles or so: Hohl (Carson City), Lithia (Reno), and South Shore (Lake Tahoe). However, I will travel (CA, Las Vegas, you name it) for the best price, if I can't get it nearby. In your reply please state how much you bought your Subaru over/less invoice. I have also always purchased a special order car and have never bought a car off the lot, so it's immaterial to me about unpopular colors, etc. Sure a dealer may discount a little more for a model held in inventory for some time, however if he has it sold as soon as it rolls off the transporter it saves him including it in their floor plan. Thanks for any recommendations.
kid
On this latest one, I used Consumer Reports to find out the invoice price on base trim model + options and worked the area dealers from there. I found the $12 I spent for the pricing report to be worth it and the prices quoted accurate. Armed with the info, I searched inventory of local dealers from subaru.com site to identify who had the model & options/colors we were interested in. Then I called each dealer to get their best price and then played them off one another.
The only new(er) Impreza was a clean '02 TS with 20K miles... for, you guessed it, $17,900. I realize this is only the window sticker and is negotiable, but dealers don't knock off 3 grand from the sticker on a <$20,000 car... do they? We were about to head home, but started talking to another sales rep in the "new cars" area... they had "manufacturers incentive" type deal on a brand new TS for $16900... the auto trans (which we want) would be about $17800. Based on Edmunds TMV and the fact that dealers in this city seem to be inflating the prices on most other cars we've seen, I think this sounds more reasonable. Any opinions or feedback? Do I negotiate down based on the fact that we've been told they're getting a special incentive? Do these cars depreciate this minimally in other cities / markets? Thanks for any opinions, sorry this is so wordy. It's been a long day!
I looked for invoice prices before buying our Forester X, and found the only options in Canada involved paying $50, and then hitting the dealer for that amount (the site said the dealer would re-imbourse the $50 fee)... did not seem like a way to make the best deal. So I used some of the U.S. invoice prices available on line just to get an idea, and then trusted the dealer (Ha!). At any rate, having only purchased Toyotas (two) in the past, I can say that the experience was much, much better at Subaru. I do not know if I got a deal, but I do know that the sales were much, much less pressure, and thus much much less disagreable... and there did not seem to be some of the semi-dishonest stuff I have seen in the past. The list price was on the car (as it must be by law) and the sales person said they were cutting about $1800 profit from that. So we split that, and got a really good dog / pet barrier thrown in. They said that was worth about $400 (Canadian). I'm pretty sure we did not do the best deal possible, but hate fighting over a couple hundred of dollars. It was exactly the car/mini SUV / big station wagon we wanted, the right colour, and the right stuff without all the stuff we did not want. So, very, very happy...so far.
they are asking Freight/PDI $1350 and $400 doc fee here. Is it what you paid?
kid
They have the worst customer service in the world! During the 48hrs of Tri-state we stopped by there to pick up some parts for the trip. So 8 subies show up and we go inside to buy wiper blades and lug nuts and studs. They didn't have impreza studs nor lug nuts in stock. How bad is that? Then we realized at 11am that one of the guys had a flat tire, so we took it off the car and brought it into service. They explained to the service guy that they were on a trip and that they needed it patched. They said "oh sorry we are going to lunch now, we can't do the tire til late this afternoon" I'm no expert but to throw a plug in a tire for a subie owner would take about 3 minutes, and they'd be on their way. Nope these guys had to be hard headed that it was lunchtime @ 11am.
This is a VERY poor reflection on Subaru and most Subie dealers are unfortunately like this. So in the spirit of Capitalism, may no one buy from New Country Subaru!!!!
-mike
Where is this dealership? Are they a union shop? Sounds like. If they are have Imprezas on the lot they should have parts for them. Did you get the plug done elsewhere?
SoA should really start to push for Subaru-only dealerships. That may make them fewer and father between but hopefully more dedicated to their customers.
Ed
This dealer is 20 miles north of Albany. I actually need to write to SOA about it, it really got me torqued up!
-mike
Bob
I got my Subie this way several years ago.
Jim
Good luck.
Greg
in my opinion it is probably the large profit margins per sale which attracts the incompetent masses to work in those industries - it attacts the 'get rich quick' thinkers of the world - again - that's just my opinion & not based on any sort of fact or statistic - just logical thought.
- ken
I've had less than stellar experiences with the service departments here also. Maybe it's a weakness of Subaru's, but I guess that's better than good service and bad cars, IMHO.
O/T: The farther / father comment reminded of the movie Goldmember... "His Fahza?"
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=3189310#post3189310
-Dennis
-mike
So since he's not posting in an official capacity, do you think I should edit my post?
-Dennis
-mike
-Dennis
-mike
- ken
Use Morristown for a keyword and search in the Tri-State forum (any date).
IIRC, there were a few people that had issues with them.
-Dennis
1. subaru of morristown
2. loman subaru in parsippany
3. salerno up in newton
4. flemington
listed from closest to farthest w/flemington about
50 min drive away - trying to pick the best of the most convenient. not sure which way to go.
paisan - Have you been there?
I'm within about 20 minutes of:
Bell in Rahway
Somerset
Hillside Subaru
I've been to all three but I make the 35 minute drive to Flemington. Better prices and better techs than Hillside and Rahway. I do oil changes myself, so I just go there for the 15, 30K, etc.
-Dennis
-mike
-Dennis
P.S. - Elm came out really harsh on his response.
Mark