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retail is not a good estimate IMO because you'll NEVER get that yourself.
-Colin
I'm comparing that to the actual price I paid, i.e. my own TMV.
I was able to beat the Edmunds private party sale price for our 626, but not the dealer's retail, of course.
Any how, the point is, you can still get a Forester X today for $19 grand. Knowing a 5 year old model with less equipment hold most of its value after that long is reassuring.
-juice
juice -- Do I hear the gears turning for an XT? :-)
Ken
Good question. I guess to be an equal-opportunity glutton (does that mean I eat babies??), I'll revise my prediction to a 7 pound "Big Mac!"...
This getting too weird...
Bob
BTW, I just signed up for the IMBA, so at least 6 months from now...
-Brian
Oh boy, if it's this bad now, I can only imagine what it'll be like when the reviews start appearing and Edmunds posts the specs. :-(
-Frank P.
Frank: wait 'til you drive one. Not just you, Ed, Ken, and myself too. It's gonna take some serious discipline! ;-)
-juice
Letters went out today to you.
Mark
My daughter went shopping with a man who is a hard bargainer, and he gave Molly a real clinic in how it is done.
This guy is a fan of BMW and Lexus. I think he owns three Bimmers and one Lexus, which is one more car than there are people in his family. He was really dubious about the Forester when Molly said that's what she wanted to test-drive. He got behind the wheel of the 1998 L they were looking at and was instantly converted. "This is a NICE car! This is really a NICE car!"
Steve
I've been thinking about my future garage and here's what I see:
Stage 1: In 1 year replace 98 Forester S with something fun yet practical enough for daily driving. This vehicle's for me. Contenders: Forester XT or WRX Wagon, maybe turbo Legacy wagon.
Stage 2: In 2-3 years replace Kana's Jetta with something more practical for the family. Most likely an H6 Legacy wagon of some sorts.
So, for Stage 1, which should it be? Of course I'll have to drive them first, but what's going to give me that balance of fun and practicality? The Legacy looks promising, but it won't be here until MY05 and it's a brand new model (I'm done being a beta tester :-) ).
Help me with my mental car shopping.
Ken
My choices, given your situation:
Stage I: Legacy turbo wagon.
Stage II: Subie 7-passenger crossover. I suspect that more Whoppers w/cheese will arrive by the time you reach this stage.
Bob
Resale for the '98 is good, so no harm trading up to an XT, which IMO will best balance fun and parenting one kid. Until the 2nd child arrived I was convinced the Forester was ideal for us. Now it's maybe a tad small.
But by your 2nd Kana will most likely have a bigger car, the one you'll take road trips in with the family.
-juice
Edit: I noticed Bob goes with medium, then large, I choose compact, then mid-size
When the time does come to go shopping, I'll surely drive an XT, but I'll probably take a VDC wagon for a spin as well.
-Brian
Bob
Sold my '97 RAV this morning and I'm picking up a yellow Baja Tommorrow. My dog could'nt figure out why someone was driving off in his car, but I hope he'll enjoy his new ride as much as I will!
Jeff
Patti provides a service to all Subaru owners that is most unique. She does this in a positive and yet forceful manner that has proven helpful to more than one of us. Having Patti participate as our "link" with Cherry Hill is invaluable.
If you, the paticipants on this site, have not sent Juice your letter, I urge you to do so NOW. We must do all we can to quickly "welcome" her back to the Crew!
Don
Brenda
Well, Jeff, you can explain to the dog that if he (or she) is really good, he can ride in the tray and bark at passing cars. Make sure he knows that his lead must be firmly secured so he canot leap out.
You should provide lessons in barking at cyclists, looking cute for blondes in sportscars and stealing icecreams from folks on rollerblades silly enough to come too close. Critically, explain that a dog's job is to guard a utility.
The above is more confincing for big, tough looking dogs. It might lose something on a Maltese Terrier.
Cheers
Graham
-Frank P.
Okay, rant off. Sorry about that. I guess a radio news story I heard this morning got to me ($93B spent last year treating obesity. Which was more than what it cost to treat smokers and half of which was paid for with our tax dollars via Medicare & Medicaid).
-Frank P.
My wife is a member of the American Speech and Hearing Association (ASHA) which allows us to purchase a new Subaru under the VIP program.
Have any of you purchased your new Subie with the VIP discount? How much do you think you saved and is this the best way to get a new Subie for the best price?
Do you think I can now get a $30,000 L.L. Bean for $22,000? (You can laugh out loud).
Barkley
Be aware that some, but certainly not all, dealers will low ball your trade when using VIP.
DaveM
(interesting they have a IMBA painted Baja on that page)
Not sure how the asha.org VIP program works, but would guess that it is similar.
According to http://www.carsdirect.com, LLBeans are pricing a bit below invoice for the Chicago area. That's about $27k.
-Brian
I remember that! I owned one! But you know what? It was 21ft long, 8ft wide, the rear seat was like a couch, and in the advertisement, they showed a guy putting in a full set of golf clubs, an outboard motor, AND all the family luggage for a weekend at the country house!
I miss my '74 Old 98 Regency Sedan!
-mike
PS: It got 8mpg City and 12-15mpg Highway.
Look cute or tough or slobber all over you.
Now if I can get him to point birds from the back when we are driving the back roads next fall, instead of having to crawl thru the brush we might have something:)
Jeff
Greg
In the "good old days" we didn't have car seats, which are bulky and take up a fair amount of space, certainly much more space than munchkins do, plus, as piasan said, the cars were larger too. Hence the minivan and/or SUV are now the vehicles of choice for most families.
Bob
Good luck on the Baja! Let us know how you (and your dog) like it.
Mark
HG
-Frank P.
1) I'm pretty much a newbie here and never had the opportunity to talk w/ Patti or ask her for assistance. Haven't really needed any yet. Are you only looking for folks who have worked with her?
2) Is this specific to Patti, or are we asking Subaru in general to be more involved with addressing concerns raised on these boards? In either case, I'd definitely offer my support of this idea. I think there's a mutual benefit for SOA and customers (and potential customers who see customer service in action).
Thanks for your work in this effort. Sorry for my ignorance about the particulars of it and Patti's involvement here.
utahsteve
Right now we're trying to convince SOA to again let Patti participate on Edmunds and yes, personal knowledge is desirable. But now that you mention it, I suppose a general letter to SOA, stating that you would appreciate them having a Rep participate in the Town Hall to answer your questions, would still be productive. It certainly couldn’t hurt!
A little background for those of you who are relatively new:
Patti works in SOA's corporate customer service dept and was active on these boards for a couple of years until medical issues caused her to drop off. During the time she was active, she had SOA's official permission to participate. However, there was a catch in that she pretty much had to do it on her own time.
While Patti never directly responded to owner complaints here on Edmunds, she was very good at directing owners to the proper channels for satisfaction. Her usefulness would be demonstrated when a long suffering owner would post that, thanks to Patti's involvement, whatever problem they were experiencing was finally brought to a satisfactory close. In fact, I can recall a couple of instances when a disgruntled owner, after months of fruitlessly working with an uncooperative/non-responsive local Subaru service dept, would come to Edmunds seeking advice (and to vent) and Patti would personally get involved. Next thing you know, the owner, who was fully prepared to trade his “lemon” in and never own another Subaru, suddenly was all smiles and going around telling all his friends what a great company SOA was and how he was already planning his next Subaru purchase.
Patti was also extremely helpful in finding answers to our technical questions and would pass along product improvement suggestions to the appropriate dept. Bottom line is that her presence here created loads of goodwill for SOA at virtually no cost to them.
So I hope you can see why we miss her. Besides, Patti was a regular “crew member” and as such, a member of our virtual family.
-Frank P.
Bob
LOVE the yellow(actually mustard?) It is definitely a head turner. As soon as I pulled in to home a kid almost crashed his bike trying to stop fast enough to look...."sweet car" "awesome"
Hans (my German Shorthair) jumped right in. I really like the flip up back seat so he can stand on the floor and still hang his head out the window and let his ears float in the wind.
Greg - I really liked my RAV and would really recommend it to anybody...fun to drive, reliable, get you anywhere. but there are alot of cabin buzzes and it is a bumpy ride & wind is no fun on the highway.
i do have to get used to sitting a little lower to the road and having to stand when I get out of the car, but other than that I am really excited to have this car. I like having a unique car(not many subies around here) and I think it will really fit my needs.
One dumb question-I had the soft bed cover installed-what is the easiest way to role it up, what is the bar that runs under it for?
This is my first Subaru so I appreciate all your posts and thanks for the background on Patti, hope she is able to come back.
Jeff
Barkley: my last purchase was through the VIP program, it was an easy and painless experience, plus they gave us the red carpet.
Steve/Brenda: if you feel up to it, you could write a letter in support of having an SoA rep back with us. "I think it's a good idea because..." and fill in the blank. Your call. I have 9 letters in hand plus at least 7 more on the way, which is great.
Towed home another 3 yards of wood chips yesterday, after borrowing Bob's trailer. They really filled it up this time, it must've been 4 yards. I was spilling chips over the sides, pretty much. No problem towing it.
The only problem? It's not enough, I need another 2-3 yards!
By the way, we'd talked about using pea gravel, but when I asked the guy at the counter he looked at me like I was crazy. Any how, that stuff is $25 per yard, so I'd need $150 worth at least, plus it's so heavy that I'd probably need to do 4-5 trips, so I went with wood chips. $15 per yard for high quality filtered stuff. It even smells nice!
-juice
Depending on the application, pea gravel can pay for itself pretty quickly, since it won't compost or break down like bark mulch (no need to replace every so often like the mulch). But, you'd definitely want to have pea gravel delivered if it's in large quantities!
Craig
Looks great, but like I said I need another load to really get it padded enough to prevent injuries in that playground. I've got 2 little tikes to protect now.
-juice
Enjoy the day,
Ross
My vote - June 11 @ 8lbs, 14 oz
Steve
:-)
Ross
PS, it was great chatting again tonight. The Crew really does need psych help!
Brian: I'll take my daughter's "half"-birthday, and her birth weight: 6/2, 7.5 lbs.
Juice: Bark vs. pea gravel: good choice. Pea gravel is WAY too hard on a dad's back! I have some good ol' dirt to move soon - then the river rock arrives!
Cheers!
Paul
Bob
Bob: you need to put a weekly alarm reminder on your calendar. ;-)
-juice
Bob
Yesterday they featured the STi. Last week they had a long-term Baja. They tend to like Subies.
Bummer that it was raining, I could not see the Eclipse at all.
-juice
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