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I told her often when she complained of the rules that I was her parent not her friend If I got to be her friend it would be a bonus, she thanks us now for our consistency, because unlike her friends who got mixed messages from their parents she always knew where she stood.
And yes we are friends and have a terrific relationship wirh her.
Cheers Pat.
no school .. so of course we went out about 9 this morning to get breakfast ... no shoveled driveway with about 10 inches of snow .. and then throught the big pile at the end of the driveway that the snowplow left ... down to the end of the first street where we thought we were going to have to do a fast 'backup' as there was a toyota wagon sliding in circles toward the intersection ... he got stopped facing the wrong way perpendicular in front of us, smiled and waved out his drivers' window and we went on around him ... lol
we had NO problems of course, although a number of people DID ... in fact the b/f was driving and he's had a lifetime of snow and mostly in rural areas ... at one point he was going to "slide the car in a circle" just to sort of startle me ... only my SUBIE didn't do what he THOUGHT it would ... lol ... it wouldn't do the 'out of control' thing he was going for ...
HAHAHAHAHA!!
Folks out on the East Coast: Stay warm, stay safe!
Ken
Steve
As for rules, my parents were pretty lax when I was a youngun and I took full advantage. Then my parents got a divorce, my Father remarried and his wife was much more stern. I must have been looking for it though as I don't remember rebelling too much and I feel I was the better for it.
I can definitely see the benefit of setting down clear rules and being consistent about their application. I sure hope I've the gumption to follow through when I have children.
-Ian
My dad messed it up pretty badly. I took Driver's Ed in school mostly because he didn't want to pay for it. Of course schools around here no longer offer it, probably not cost effective.
So he basically stalled me for a semester, since I had to wait for the end of the semester to go take the written test.
Then he didn't want me to get beyond my Learner's Permit, so I rebelled and went with a friend's mom. Surprised him with my shiny new license that night. HA!
So I worked around the barriers he put up, but didn't have as much experience as I would have had it he had taken the time to develop my skills at that young age (17).
My kids will have a LOT of time behind the wheel before they ever get on public roads, even if it's a go-kart.
-juice
Have a friend with a daughter in college. She told me once that sometimes your children want you to say no. It takes the pressure off of them for making a questionable decision with their friends even though they might complain. Will always remember that.
Went to pick up my daughter from gymnastics last night. Could not believe how fast the snow was building as soon as it started. Couldn't see to the point where you can very easily get disoriented. Subie did fine of course and most roads were empty due to all the warnings.
Greg
Don't open that can o' worms with the Forester XT guys...
-juice
-juice
About 20 minutes later, after the car was relatively ice-free, I noticed that little 1/4" ding in the windshield turned into a 4' crack running the full length of the windshield!
Bob
We usually don't get "snow" days. I was posting later - after hours. I wanted to check this puppy out. Occasionally we'll close early or open late if the roads are bad. If everyone else in the world drove a Subaru, that would never happen!
Patti
Driver's ed teacher was favorably impressed. Methinks Daniel & I will have similar adventures when his time comes.
Cheers!
Paul
Ken
Here in Victoria, Australia, the drivers licensing authority requires that kids have 120 hours of experience behind the wheel. They encourage lots of parent guided driving as well as lessons. Funny thing is you see lots of kids driving their families home from holidays on the freeways and so on, getting good long distance experience that driving lessons never cover. Of course, that is often in the family car that might be a Mercedes or landcruiser, giving a different perspective on driving.
License age is 18 and the state has about the lowest fatal accident rate in the world. Not perfect, but not bad
Cheers
Graham
-mike
although my daughters were eligible for permits (driving with licensed driver over 18 in front seat) at age 15 with full license at age 16, none had permits/licenses as early as they were eligible ...
oldest and youngest daughter actually were over 18 before they had full license - mostly through a set of unique circumstances that were different for each ... middle daughter had a permit/license shortly after she was 16, but again had unique circumstances where she really needed one ... all 3 are good, safe drivers ... but I don't think the oldest/youngest were ready for their licenses earlier and would not have been safe drivers at that point
We all occasionally do stupid things (with cars, ladders, tools, etc.), and usually live to tell about it. Hopefully we take a lesson from these 'near misses', or the misfortune of others, and don't repeat them. I would like to hear from anybody in this group that has not done something in their lives that they (or others) would look back on as being foolish or dangerous. But I do agree with you - thank god nobody else had to pay the price for their transgressions.
As others have said, the young feel invulnerable. As we grow older and have kids of our own, we want to teach and shield them, but at the same time realize that they will have to get some bruises and learn the same lessions we did, in much the same way as we did. And we hope and pray that they too will live to grow up and teach their children.
Steve
Bob- Same thing happened to my wife a couple of years ago. Except that her nick turned into an 18" crack! No zero deductible for windshield claims in NJ either (that's the bad part Loosh).
-Dennis
Craig
Cheers!
Paul
Congrats!
-Dennis
Owner of said XT gets automatic lifetime membership to the OCD Club. It's BLACK, even, and spotless, with all the snow/salt all around us. Bravo.
I'm actually teary eyed, I'm so proud.
-juice
-mike
-Dave
-juice
~c
I have to agree with Mike. Passing on a double yellow line on a blind curve is an outright blatant disregard for safety and everyone else around -including his "friend" he was passing and his passenger. Some of these same people will then try to hold the automobile manufacturer responsible since they can't accept the fact that they screwed up.
Greg
Cheers Pat.
-juice
DaveM
I am sure we have all been guilty of something in our lives that we are not proud of, I know I have, as the bible says let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Cheers Pat.
-Dave
-mike
tWRX
DaveM
Let face it - you tell us about your 90+ speeds on public road. You put yourself and others at risk. You are not on a closed track, and cannot control how others may react/interact your driving. Still, as I said, I would lament your loss if something bad happened. That is what caring people do.....
'Nuff said on this subject
Steve
I want to hear details! Impressions!
Ken
Bob
~c
Of course that was before all the models offered turbos. You could argue all turbos belong on the dark side. ;-)
Who has the mystery car? Chat topic, perhaps? That would be a cool surprise. Tune in tonight. I hope he shows up! LOL
-juice
-mike