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Now, mind you, my comment is based on a ( somewhat) stable GM, but I would say more than those paying north of $40K for a Genesis.
Two words: Ethics & Morals
If your nose committed murder, wouldn't you accept that it should be cut off or executed (or at least put in prison for life?)
I find the taxpayer bailout of GM and Chrysler so reprehensible, I'd rather give all inmates on deathrow CLEMENCY and replace those empty cells with GM and Chrysler executives.
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I hate GM, can you tell?
Funny story, but back in the 1980's, my grandparents had this crappy 1982 Malibu wagon that was irritating them to no end. They wanted to go back to bigger cars, but instead of a Chevy like they'd been buying for years, Granddad decided he wanted a nicely decked-out Buick. There was this guy at their church who had a 1983 or so Electra, and they really liked it and thought they'd go check one out. Only problem is, by the time they went car shopping, the Electra got downsized to this little thing about the size of the Malibu. So they ended up rushing to get the LeSabre before the same fate happened to it...which it would, for 1986.
Actually, if I had money to throw around foolishly, I'd be tempted to buy a Pontiac G8.
She probably knows ALL of the tax loopholes as well!
I applaud you for your patriotism!
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Bank of America has some good apples, and some really bad apples; we'd have to be selective there. Although, yes, I think anyone and everyone involved in the idea that it's OK to provide gov't bailouts should be thrown behind bars for 365 days, including the politicians.
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Because the store was FORCED on us and the store had a disastrous business model and year after year made less cars people want to buy.
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AFAIC, the events of the last 6 months proves this WOULD have been the correct decision.
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Buick is going to be TOAST at breakfast!
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Lemko, I'm waiting... :shades:
Geely is very ambitious, and not exactly in a good way. Many of it's models are carbon copy of other brands. The last time I checked the company had more pending lawsuits than any other major company in China (from Mazda, Peugeot, Daimler, and I forgot the other 2).
And to my amusement, Geely isn't discreet at all about this copycat stuff. When I visited the factory years ago, they showed us visitors the process of dismantling an E-class (95-02 model) "to find out how it works" Less than a year later, a copy appeared. It didn;t seem to bother Daimler much as Geely copied the older car, but now they're getting too agressive copying imports' latest models.
Pretty? :P
Will that get young women into dealerships? If so, could bring down average age of Buick owners. Instead of Tiger Woods, Buick could use Britney Spears as spokesperson. Come to think of it, that might work. A neighbor down the road bought a used LeSabre for his then 17-year old daughter a couple years ago and she still drives it daily. He says she likes it.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Century was a great name until they started slapping it on dull conveyances for seniors complete with HUGE numerals on the instruments. I also can't forget those barren interiors of recent Centuries that would make a 1964 Chevrolet Biscayne look luxurious in comparison.
My Special, (aka LaCrosse) would feature an interior at least as nice as an ES350 or Avalon. The Special Deluxe would be even nicer.
My Buick lineup, (remember, I'm independent of GM and not competing with Cadillac):
Special = base Buick. Comparable to ES350/Avalon. Price: $30K
Special Deluxe = similar to Chinese LaCrosse in appointments: $33K-$38K
Super = base Lucerne-sized car. Appointed like Lexus GS series = around $36-$40K
Roadmaster - getting into the Big Leagues = to base Lexus LS price $45K-$55K
Limited = serious no-compromises luxury car - similar to Mercedes S-Class $70K+
Love it! Maybe they'll pick up on Hinda, too...
HP used to build printers here and even after they just switched over to mostly coding drivers and such, a friend of mine would go out and buy competing printers and figure out how they worked. His focus was more on the consumer experience than the tech stuff, but other workers did that part of it. He puts Industrial Intelligence on his resume.
I'd be surprised to hear that GM didn't do that too, not necessarily to copy, but to see how their products stack up.
The book "Car" details the development of the second generation Taurus / Sable in the mid 90's (the ovoid look). The Ford product development team took apart a '92 Camry when it was first released and were amazed at the quality of the materials and assembly used to produce that car.
The goal, from that day forward, was "Beat Camry".
I think history shows us what happened there ....
GM does not stand alone building ugly cars.
Isn't that how Toyota got started? I know they copied the GM inline 6 cylinder in my 1964 Toyota Land Cruiser. The problem is they used inferior materials. 3 valve jobs and two timing gears in 25K miles. When I replaced the Toyota parts with Genuine GM parts the problems ceased.
Not if Hyundai stays in Korea. They have problems similar to the D3 with a greedy Union trying to destroy the company.
Buick, a division of Lem-Co will be a smaller company - maybe even on a small scale like Porsche, but will build the best cars. My production might be miniscule compared to Buicks of the GM past, but they'll be superior to anything GM or the Asian imports made.
Cool....all of us on this board can once again buy US cars from LemCo and we will appreciate the extra quality and style!
It doesn't tell me your successful, but rather foolish and silly. Well, who knows, maybe they liked it... but I think most are choosing it for the name. I can think of many other names before Mercedes.
This one set of parents come through my work place to pick up their child in the child care department. Both parents pull purposely up in front of the entrance with either a C-Class or a Mercedes SUV, both are brand new. Seriously, that does not tell me they are successful, that tells me they are paying way too much. Its like buying a Holister shirt, it does not always mean quality over wal-mart brand.
Anyway, off that tangent. lol No offense to any mercedes owners, too each their own... thats why there are so many cars.
I think the worst angle of that car is actually from the rear, with its bustle...proving that 99% of modern car designers are soulless lemmings compared to even 15 or so years ago.
What do you think are great looking late model cars, GM and otherwise? Concept car don't count; I mean production cars.
I heard the result was a Phantom copycat instead... wish I can find the pictures, that'll be hilarious... :P
So nothing at all to do with greedy executives, right? :shades:
It's so awesome China was opened up.
Mostly otherwise, heh.
2010 Fusion
2011 Fiesta
2010 Milan
2009 Civic
2010 Fit
Insight
SX4
Wrangler
Versa
Rogue
Altima
Xterra
Frontier
Vue
Aura
That's Rich!
"It's a cultural thing. They also don't see knock off's and rip off's as being shameful.
However. If they want to be a part of the global economy they should be forced to have some respect for copyrights and trademarks. But then we are talking about a country where people don't have basic human rights or decent wages. They couldn't care less about what RR thinks. They know their government and legal system will protect them and our governments are too busy trying to make deals with them to care."
"It is intellectual property.
If you let it go a bit, they'll take a lot, and then they will dilute or challenge the original.
Private property ownership, including intellectual property, is the foundation of freedom, and the building block of success.
If it isn't respected, it will be usurped."
That's the future created in the past 35 years or so. I can't wait until these things are on our shores.
He didn't know much about what was out there with regards to the more recent models, so I mentioned the Lucerne and LaCrosse. He wanted something roomy. Well, The LaCrosse is actually a bit smaller inside than his Impala, so I told him he might like the Lucerne better, if he really wants that big-car feel.
Well, this morning he came in and showed me a printout of an '06 Lucerne with 9,000 miles that he found at CarMax. It's actually in Indianapolis, but he wants to have it transferred out here ($300 fee) and buy it. I just told him to go drive one first to make sure he really likes it, before plunking down the money for it!
So, GM, I sold a car for ya. Sorry it wasn't a new one, but in this economy, you take what you can get!