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Well, if you were in anyway affiliated with a transplant, you'd likely be unhappy.
Before reprograming my trans if you floored it, it took off, but 1-2 shift, well you could watch a baseball playoff game by the time it shifted! Then when it did, youre bogged down in second as the engine was at idle.
Now, floor it, shift is instant, engine maintains its RPM, same for third and fourth.
I think GMs are like that for fuel economy numbers.
And cash for clunkers.
I'd forgotten about that fiasco.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
And if it was still only at 56,372 miles, KBB retail value would be $9019!
I'm sure there are other factors at play though. For instance, there hasn't been as much over-capacity in the past few years though, so fewer cars have been dumped into rental fleets, or rushed out the showroom with deep discounts. So, fewer new car sales means fewer used cars getting traded in. Plus, many people are just holding onto their cars for longer periods of time.
Exactly, if the RE-VOTE on the bailouts against the VAST MAJORITY Of the people's wishes wasn't an all-out DECLARATION Of Nuclear WAR to the death, I don't know what is.
That was a complete takeover of Washington DC Politicians on a scale never seen before. Prior to that, the 1% were more subtle. The bailouts were a declaration of class warfare against the middle and lower class.
There are no ifs, ands, or buts around that.
My real worry in regards to GM and Chrysler is this. I predict within the near future that they will need to be bailed out a 2nd and 3rd time respectively. Someone from Washington DC will say it's necessary because they are "TOO BAILED out to fail!"
That makes no logical sense. IN other words, it's Non-Sense!
People don't base their subscriptions on whether they like or dislike their personal favorite or most hated product. They buy CR to get the truth, the facts, and no non-sense.
If CR finds faults in a vehicle, and mine doesn't have any issues, then I consider myself lucky. If CR finds a vehicle to be ultra reliable, and mine isn't, I'd consider myself very unlucky.
The truth of the matter is that CR is always, and I do mean always DEAD-ON right, with my personal experiences. I love my german car. CR doesn't like it much. That doesn't make me like CR any less. I understand that CR cares less about some of the intrinsic value of a german car, and more about reliability and gas mileage, and low price.
Also, cars are but a small part of what CR reviews. They review TV's, Vacuums, tires, appliances, electronics, and so forth. No one is going to cancel their subscription because of a single vehicle review. They get CR because they tell it "The way it is."
While CR does a good job in testing vehicles, reporting on reliability, it is the customers of pre-driven/used vehicles that determine value by what they are willing to pay. Customers determine that GM not as good a value as many foreign brands. This is what Edmunds Awards are saying. And, GM, except for the Corvette just does not match up with some foreign brands.
Another great example was the military-industrial complex, along with the hawks within the Pentagon, CIA, and NSA along with others, made an "airtight" case of Iraq having WMD, and thus needed to be invaded. An honest person like Colin Powell was lied to repeatedly, and harassed until he too fell in-line. U.S. citizens and the world concensus was to leave Hussein alone, until this made-up story of WMD provided enough support to ram this UNDECLARED WAR through.
The public is generally being lied to by our elected officials and the gawdawful FED, that the moves they are making are for our general benefit. Yes listen to the Fed espouse that after their policies lost 6M jobs, that devaluing our currency through QE-moves and then getting us minimum-wage jobs is good for us. All at the minimal cost of $1.4T further in debt. It's a spin the Soviets and Pravda would have been proud of!
My real worry in regards to GM and Chrysler is this. I predict within the near future that they will need to be bailed out a 2nd and 3rd time respectively.
I have no doubt either. They are following the same basic business operations and strategy as they did before. The definition of Insanity is - to do the same thing over and over again, and expect a different result.
I'd forgotten about that fiasco.
I'm sure Obama was hoping that you did forget about it, especially this year. The public hated the idea of that program, and it didn't work, which was predictable.
Corporations own DC, not the other way around. It's nothing new with this regime - it was just as bad before, and no "outsider" who was a mayor in irrelevant podunk. No party is the problem, the system is the problem.
I do find it odd that a Buick would be built in Korea. Next step, China?
So now people buying "strictly" American brands will have a dilemma. Buy a Korean Buick, Chinese Cadillac or a Honda built in Ohio, a VW built in TENN or a BMW or Mercedes built in one of our southern States by U.S. workers. And, parts supplied by manufacturers in the States.
That explains why the 911 is recommended. LOL
You're looking at it the wrong way. That's a forecast, i.e. predicted reliability.
Seems to me the people who don't even read it are the ones who judge.
Not hard to find a link, if you search...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUj5bhF4Gw4
Look like basic loafers to me.
They love the Malibu and even mention it in that clip, are you saying you disagree with them? :P
dieselone said it best:
Does anyone here really think the Impala is a class leading car?
This pretty much kills the they-only-like-rental-cars argument, too, given they recommend the 911 over this.
Ford stated that sales in ths U.S. will be better than 2011 in 2012,but in Asia and Europe sales will be down.
The Chey Cruise outsold the Focus and the Elantra Limited got the Car of the Year at the Detroit auto show.ty and Semper FI
But seriously, I don't find anything really controversial about that review. He pretty much summed up my opinion of the car. It's okay, but there are better cars out there. And at $29K it's certainly not a good value, although I'm sure nobody pays that much for them. And it is big on the outside, without really being all that big inside. Personally I found the front seat to be fine. Seats could use more side bolstering, but at least it's roomy enough. Back seat is miserable though, and I can tell from that video that the reviewer didn't have that seat all the way back.
Somehow, it's oddly fitting that my itunes is currently waxing nostalgic about driving your Chevy to the levee, but finding it dry...
Not even close, no.
And let's not call it a one model rebate, or even a hybrid rebate, lots of fuel efficient cars qualified. You could even get $750 on a VW TDI.
Ironically they limited how many cars were eligible per manufacturer and so Toyota ran out first. This meant competitors had rebates long after Toyota's expired.
Ford milked it for all it was worth, I think they were 2nd to reach their limit. Helped sell a ton of Escape hybrids.
Aaaah, source please?
You keep repeating that, but that's not really true. Perhaps in the first year they did better than average, and problems showed up later, but per the 2012 Buying Guide:
06 slightly worse than average
07 average
08 slightly worse than average
09 average
Clearly they are pro-GM biased because their forecast is "average", so they rounded up.
Yeah, I agree. You're 100% right on the rear seat accommodations. The Impala in that video is likely the lamest $29k MSRP vehicle I've ever seen. Granted huge discounts are likely available. To many other cars to choose from that are far more appealing.
I guess some believe what's good enough for them, should be good enough for everyone.
They only rusted on day 366.
Now every body has to admit *that* was funny.
And yes we had one which rusted BADLY.
Ain't that the truth. :P
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
You may not laugh if you had said that in reverse.
A base model may have only had an AM/FM radio.
The V8/loaded model may have added a cassette, 6CD changer in the trunk, 13 speakers instead of 2, and a powered sub.
Ten times more stuff to break. Think about it.
And yes I went to high school in the 80s.
DON'T DO IT!
Buddy's got one, brakes and tires cost him $3 grand. Wouldn't be so bad if it didn't have just 23k miles. :lemon:
To be fair, Europe is about half the size of Texas.
(joking...)
Being that it's not made anymore, it wouldn't be in the current issue.
http://hhrchevyfamily.19.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=8872
At GM, every radio that was ever available on a V8 was available on a six. When you look in the brochures, they don't say "except V6", for example.
To be fair, CR will qualify those with an asterisk (*), when they use a sample of just one model year.
Down the road, as the cars age and get more miles piled on, the problems begin to show up. That's what happened with the HHR, so it dropped from the "Much Better than Average" rating it indeed had earlier.
I didn't refer to the current issue, I used the Buying Guide (I even mentioned that was my source). They come out with those annually.
Again, it is amusing that the biggest critics know the least about CR.
That maybe true, but it also is more likely the v8 will have the upgraded stereo vs a standard unit in a base v6 or 4cyl models.
Personally, I don't really care about how reliable the stereo is, that would just give me a good excuse to install a real system. But I would take issue with CU not recommending a vehicle just because it's possible someone not knowing how to use their stereo sends in a negative result on a survey.
Usually when a model is loaded up, it would come with the upgrade engine as well. In another thread we found out that you can actually get a Durango V6 Citadel model, but I've never seen one.
It was funny, some people doubted its existence.
Conversely, cheap skates who skimp on options to save a buck are not going to pay extra for the big engine, which costs a lot more to own, and cheapskates don't want to spend more for gas.
This is just common sense.
That's for sure.
Hey, you're the one that doubted that CR had recommended it. I proved it to you.
06 was a first year model, very normal to have v1.0 rate lower than other years. Per the source the transmission improved for 2007.
In 08 the electrical score dropped slightly. Not a big deal.
That's why the resale value is so abysmal (along with the Huge incentives to the public buyer!
2011 Impala - 37% after 3 years!!
Regards,
OW
I'm skeptical, can you blame me?
Especially when no source is named.
People keep calling it the "Prius rebate" even though just as many Ford Escapes were subsidized, and it didn't even have to be a hybrid to qualify (TDI for example).
So yeah, I looked it up. It may have been recommended (past tense), but years with below average reliability lose that stamp.
Didn't mean to imply that.
I'm just using updated data.
You were using historical data. Outdated, in some cases.
The money was up for grabs for any manufacturer, in fact Ford did benefit as much as Toyota did. VW also.
It was not a Prius rebate, not even a hybrid rebate. Even diesels qualified.
I think it's funny how good gas mileage is used against some cars. As if that were a bad thing.
Do people here even care?