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Then you must really like the Chevy Malibu!
It sure is. I find the current Jetta styling VERY bland compared to our 1996. It just blends in with all the other jellybeans.
Please tell that he didn't believe you. C'mon!
"Is it RWD? oops. LOL. I've never driven one. Never driven any minivan for that matter. Aren't most FWD now?"
That is the trouble today, not enough RWD cars.
About the only affordable ones left are Camaros, Mustangs, and Miatas.
I long for the days of the Cordoba, Magnum, Thunderbird, Capri, Lemans, Nova, etc.
Why can't they take all the knowledge they have today, and use it to make a fun, AFFORDABLE, 2 door, rear wheel drive car?
look under "reviews" or "one liners".
LOL!
6 cyl power with less fuel consumption than 6 cyl
Apparently you've haven't seen the fuel economy of the WRX.
turbo + 4 cylinder = 6 cyl power with fuel consumption of a 6 cyl
I wish VW would get off the pot. But after all the trouble I have had with this car, I don't want to chance another one. They can keep them.
Interestingly, I talked to someone on AOL the other night who has a 2000 GLX. He said it has 16K on it, and it's been in the shop like 20 times already. He said the AC went up, the tranny died, the wheel bearing went bad, etc. I felt really bad for him, but I was then glad that my only problems were rattles. Luck counts when buying a car though. There are good and bad cars of all kinds.
Also, how to do it?
Our local shop says they can mount the part, but don't have a machine to press out the old bushing and the new one in.
Anyone else have this problem? It causes a BIG BIG clunking over bumps, even with new struts.
"Most people prefer FWD for its efficient use of space"
I prefer more room in the engine compartment myself.
"..., better traction, and handling."
Huh???? THOSE are EXACTLY the reasons I'd prefer the RWD!!!!!!
" Those who don't know about how a RWD car handles don't really care which wheels drive it."
Probably true, unfortunately.
" I never knew the difference between the two until I gave my co-worker's 2000 323i a workout. What a sweet ride! "
My 1978 Dodge Magnum had a 318, and probably made 150 HP new, 120 when I sold it, and got maybe 17MPG. But, it rode nice, and was sure fun to power through the corners! Eventually, rust did it in. I bought a 1985 Corolla as a replacement. Much different experience.
but in terms of pure performance handling and fun factor, FWD is BAD, and RWD reigns supreme....
"Why can't they take all the knowledge they have today, and use it to make a fun, AFFORDABLE, 2 door, rear wheel drive car?"
Emphasis on the AFFORDABLE was in the original. Why must we suffer?
I talked to a lawyer today on the phone, and he said he didn't really need to get involved at this point, because I did everything that he would have done already. He did tell me to feel free to call him back if I needed him though.
I hope this is resolved, and they buy my car back. I know everyone gets tired of my rantings on this board, but put yourself in this position. I am sure everyone (or almost everyone) would feel the same way if they were making a payment on a 7-month old car that sits in the shop more than it sits in front of their own house.
i know in here, with all of these whiners and complainers, you are getting loads of sympathy. but in the real world, i think people would think you are indeed making this way too hard on yourself..
Also, I am not making it hard on myself at all. I am trying to get what is pretty much due to me as a consumer.
If anyone thinks this is whining, then that's their opinion. And opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one.
He actually means Planet Justin, not the real world. Justin seems to offer a lot of advice regarding the "real world". Justin's reality isn't necessarily everyone else's reality though. Just my 2 cents.
Be prepared also to have mileage deducted from the final settlement. Depending upon state law, the manufacturer can deduct mileage in the order of $.20 to $.30 per mile. The clincher here is to make sure they deduct mileage below the first reported dealer visit. For this reason it is crucial that you keep all your paperwork in order and up to date.
If VWOA in the end refuses to buy back or swap the car, then you need to get rid of it and take a hit on a trade in. Again, let this be a valuable lesson to you. Just think all the money you have spent alone in cars. Also realize that money could have been better invested into savings, CDs, bonds, etc.
You are very young. Start saving for your retirement NOW, not when you are 65.
Best of luck.
Why does he need to get rid of it, especially if wasting money is a main issue? OTOH, I have no first-hand knowledge of how unbearable the rattles are. Without dumping additional money in, he'll be driving a $15K car. I'll take a "loaded" Jetta with 15K miles and 2-3 rattles over a new $15K car.
And with the mileage, these problems started at ~4500 miles. I have EVERY piece of paper from this car since the day I bought it, and have made copies for VWoA. I sent that letter before. I have opened a case with them back in April about this car.
The dealer called me today and told me that they found the thing making the noise in the back (finally). Figures, they slam the barn door shut after the horse ran out already. Too little, too late.
If in the end VW refuses to buyback the car, get rid of it. You'll never be happy with the thing. Once you hate a car is very difficult if not impossible to regain trust in it again. It is not worth it.
I hope your lawyer makes a good Lemon case. Since rattles are merely annoyances (But not safety issues) don't expect an easy resolution to this. Your best argument is to say that the rattles dimish the value of the car to would be buyers of your Jetta. If you present the rattles as a safety related issue, then expect to have the suit flushed quicker than a running toilet.
If I were you I would no again for another VW. But if you must, pick a Passat by all means.
And as far as assembly quality, someone in the Protege forum used to work on the port in Ca. where the VWs come in. He said 38% of them had assembly defects when arriving, the most popular being broken/missing dashboard clips (one of the problems with my car). I find this astounding.
I definitely will go for the value thing (I was going to anyway) in the case. Who in their right mind would buy a used car if they found out in was in the shop 8 times in 7 months? Not me.
Also, if they do not buy it back, I will get rid of it sooner or later. I would try to sell it privately first though, because I would get the most money for it that way. But this would be a little down the road, like I said.
here on Planet Justin (otherwise known as Prima Donna as someone said), your happiness should come above all else.
Planet Jetta?
Beam me up, Dr, Piech!
Or is he unhappy because he incorrectly thinks his Jetta is a POS?
So should he get rid of his Jetta so he can be happy again?
Or should he keep the Jetta, get on Planet Justin and be happy again?
Vocus, what the hay, get as much as you can, not to mention have you ever wondering how many times the dealer mechanics ripped apart your dashboard, interior door panels, etc just to find this rattle? They probably CAUSED one or two of them .... hmmmmmmmmm, a previous poster had a good point though, wouldnt you rather drive a "nice" Jetta with a few rattles and creaks than a 15k new car? Drive with the radio on ?
~Carrie
hahahahahaha
- he obviously didnt get the Monsoon option.
Vocus - have you checked under your seat for foreign objects that might be making noise? - Old french fries from the drive-in, some pens, loose change?
And if this car is fixed right this time, I definitely can be happy with the car. I have wanted a Jetta every since the 199.5 models came out, so I am definitely happy with the car. It's the noises I am not happy with.
And I think the build quality sucks, but I don't think the car is a POS.
But I know if this car rattles when I pick it up, it's going right back to them and I will remove everything (including the tags) this time. I am not standing for this crap anymore.
"If I do get tired of this car and sell it, I can pretty much sell it real close to what I owe on it and get it (VWs are very popular in the MD/DC area), so it won't be a great loss."
That doesn't sound like diminished value to me. Even if it's taken out of context, lawyers have a way with making things work for them. You don't know who at VW might read these boards. Your dealer might for all you know.
Even though after reading the law, I don't think you meet it, I'd at least like to see you make a good case and have a chance to win. But statements like the above don't help you at all.
I have resorted to turning up my radio to drown out my dash rattle. Though I do not think it is as bad as Vocus's. It is annoying but it does not make me hate my Jetta. Thougn smoetimes it really gets to me. I believe it will be fixed eventually and I will just enjoy my ride until then.
Soory...just wanted to clarify
Did they tell you what the cause was?
the more you let them keep your car, the MORE rattles you can be sure to have. taking dashboards apart is not actually supposed to happen. there is no way that some of these stupid car dealer mechanics are going to put it back together correctly.....
maybe a visit to the Dr. for some Paxil!! my boss finally got on it and he is carefree now haha.
You probably would get better results if you'd said "NO!".
~Carrie
I have a bad feeling they forgot to fix the lights behind the climate control though. It's always something that they forget. It would be hilarious if I went to get the car and it was all fixed, but those lights.