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It seems to me it is wiser to start without one and add it later if it seems desirable, because once it has been on for a while it will not be practical to remove it due to paint damage from grit underneath. I guess in all fairness a professional detailer could remove such scratches with high-speed buffing, but still . . .
My plan is to have it removed ASAP, but keep it and put it back on if I do think I need it.
On Color - I think I'm leaning towards the strelin Mist with Black leather. I like them both and the wife likes the mist more.
Any opinions on the SE Anniv? The wheels are nice, I'm sure the brake pedals look cool. Th e5 extra HP is nice, but worth the $?
If your car is that loud while the ABS is working...bring it in....somethings wrong. Nissans new 4 channel ABS is amung the quietest you'll find...even when compared to Acura and even Lexus. The ABS has very little pedal vibration, and should be only slightly noticable audibly. You might want to have it checked.
Those of you wishing to remove the sunroof wind deflector...It's easy !..
Just unscrew the two screws on the top of the deflector..make sure the roof is OPEN when you do this. Then just remove the deflector, and the two thin metal clips will just come right off. They just clip in under a thin flange...You're done ! be sure to put the pieces back together on the deflector itself...just in case you decide to reinstall it....which, once you hear the racket the wind buffeting makes...lol...you just might wanna do.
Joe
Whaddya guys and gals think about the majestic blue on the 20th Anniv. Now there is a pretty color. Wish it was available on regular SE's.
Oh...and about the illumination on the steering wheel controls. That is my ONLY complaint about the MAX. What were they thinking? I try to set the cruise and the next thing I know I've got my radio blasting.
WIND DEFLECTORS:on some cars they have another function...when the sun is at 12:00o'clock high a wind deflector can act as a second sunshade.
MAJESTIC BLUE MAX:I had spoken to a salesman and he had seen one on a car carrier slated for another dealer..he said it was"drop dead gorgeous"..but didnt know if the appeal would drop off after a few years...Joe D.
MAJESTIC BLUE: I saw one on the showroom floor and it really is gorgeous. Maybe because it is such a different color of blue. Still haven't seen one on the road yet.
On wind deflectors...I love it. Our Altima has a nice power sunroof but it get so noisy in the cabin...you never want to use it! To each his own I guess.
Steering wheel buttons do not give me any problem in the dark or otherwise. (I only have the cruise controls there.) Since they are arranged with the Cancel button sticking out, I just feel them with my thumb and know exactly which one is where without taking my eyes off the road. The only time I have to take my eyes off the road is when setting the speed, of course. But still - I watch the speed, not the buttons while doing that.
Again, this is just in line with a way I drive, but I recognize that others may find this arrangement inconvenient.
Now for my history. I put 140K miles on a 90 GXE & loved every mile! I then got stupid and traded it in for 98 Avalon XLS. I hated that car from the time that I took delivery - rattles galore, thunderous sound from from suspension, transmission felt like it was going to fall out. I finally had enough and traded it in on a '01 GLE.
Color - I picked Sterling Mist for my GLE because it is easy to keep clean and will not retain the heat. My 90 GXE was white, and that color was extremely easy to keep clean. I had a black car before that, and it was a impossible for me to keep it clean. BUT, I still love the looks of a clean black car!
Any types you recommend?
I'm replacing a black 91 DE with a black 2001 E. with dose, coif&con pkg, leather,
mats, and wind deflector, I will pay $24,931 to walk out the door. (No taxes ail I take it to my home state.) This sounds to good to be true. I'm getting a written description before I go to Atlanta (150 miles) to pick it up.
BLACK PAINT: I want to tint my windows and that looks best with either black or gray car. Figured I would stay black since that's what I had and what is on this car.
WIND DEFLECTOR: I didn't have it on my last car. I figure it is less aerodynamic. If I have the roof open, then I want the wind in. This car has one on it, but I may remove.
SENNA: Put me down as the 3rd person with a Senna (white) and a Maxima.
Online at nashbar.com or performancebike.com
Anyway the price sounds around where most of us have bought. I paid 24,700 for 01SE 5spd, with mats, micronfilter, C&C, Meridian, wind deflector, splash guards, bose.
The price you were quoted sounds like it's invoice minus the 500 cash back they are currently offering.
So as far as I can tell it sounds reasonable.
my .02
In case you are frustrated with the Edmunds spell check here is a way around it. I just compose my response in Microsoft Word, spell check it and then cut and past it here!!
Anyway it's great to a Max owner!!
Dave
1) TOYO tires ?
I had 'performance' tires on my Accord..and
am wondering how these rank. I would
appreciate some education...
2) Trunk
In the grand scheme of car enjoyment this is
small potatoes, however I find the trunk
carpeting and fitup quality to be less than I
had expected. Does anyone know of a good all
weather Trunk Mat? The dealer accessories
brochure doesn't list one....
Thanks,
Good luck
Tires...Toyos are great tires. The premier tire store in the Boston area has been selling Toyo for years and has advertized them as having the best warranty in the business.
Iluvmax....but the spellchecker can't catch incorrect words (past vs. paste) LOL.
my .02
We need to talk about this paint chipping thing, I'm prepared to purchase a 01 SE this week. If there is something I need to know, spill it.
Go over to Maxima.org forums and look for the thread on paint chipping in the 5th Generation discussion forum. There are many many comments and it doesn't sound good.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?s=ca57cb87a45b874529fd671bf3b5676b&threadid=25984
It has the original suspension on it and I have gotten conflicting and misleading information from dealerships (no suprise there). There is no information about it in the owner's manual and on my previous Camry, the suspension was swapped out around 80k. Any recommendations on service interval? I checked out the tire rack and there replacement struts (KYB's) were SIGNIFICANTLY lower than Nissan replacements. Thanks.
I believe the paint chipping is due in part to new environmental regulations that mandate water based paint (I am guessing)
The easy solution to see how bad the Max is, is to look at the front end of a used honda accord with a good amount of miles on it.
Before I bought my new Max, I was looking at 97-99 SE's and noticed that the paint chipped on the fronts of the front wheel openings. Yet, I don't seem to read about many complaints about that.
Bottom line, the front end chips easily, but I don't think I would consider it a serious flaw to the car.
Can some one please enlighten when is the next geration Max coming out. I used to read each and every post of this forum a while back but now I am out of touch. Starting my search for a new car, possibly 6 month from now.
If I remeber correctly it would be 2003 model arriving in 2002. I am right?
The Toyo's on the Max are a touring tire. They'll work just to give a smooth ride. Just don't expect to be able to corner like the SE with them...they're not meant to be a sport-oriented tire.
As for the paint...the paint process, as well as the paint itself, have not changed since the 95 model year. Both my 95 SE, and 97 SE had the same problem...as well as many customers cars. Personally, I think the paint is, as it's been for 6 years now, quite thin...which is probably why it's easily chipped. Although it can be somewhat of a hassle, I always use the nose mask....especially the hood part. Just be sure that if it gets wet.....don't let it dry on the car.
Joe
I've checked a few places myself, tirerack.com included, so far I've found only the Potenzas, the Pilots, and one more (forgot the brand)...so no...there's not too many choices unless you go up a size to the 235/45/17's. I now have 29k on my 2k SE, and my Potenzas look nearly new....they'd better concidering they're $170 each...I love the Potenzas, I find them great even in the rain ( as long as you don't nail the excellerator from a dead stop). I don't drive her in the snow so...I can't comment on snow traction, although others have said they're like racing slicks in the white stuff.
Joe
Brake noise: after reading the first post I jumped to the conclusion that it was just the ABS working. As Joe Nissan said, the ABS itself is pretty quiet and doesn't vibrate the pedal much, but with all that WHOA! going on, there is a lot of tire/scrubbing/pad noise. (Unless you really do have some kind of problem).
Color: in East TN, I haven't seen another green one like my 2000 SE yet. Also haven't seen the ugly "red" Merlot except on the lot, and haven't seen the Anniv blue at all. I agree with some of you, the gray is really nice.
Wind deflector: on test drives it didn't seem to reduce noise much even at 70 mph, just changed the pitch. I think it cheapens the look of the car so we skipped it. One of the few things our local dealer does right: they don't add them to all sunroof cars.
Paint: car is only a couple months old (leftover 2000 model, good deal) but has no chips yet. I expect them soon. As long as they are only in the plastic parts, I won't care too much since rust won't be an issue. I think the bumper covers and other plastic pieces aren't really 'painted', but the color is included when they mold the parts. I was once told never to use any abrasive cleaner on plastic body parts as it could only make it worse.
Snow tires: Car and Driver mag recently had an excellent article on snow tires. Also The Tire Rack. If you have snow and/or ice on your roads for more than a few days a year, they say true winter tires (not just M&S) are the way to go. You will be better off than hosers in 4WDs with summer or M&S tires. If you have 17" wheels/tires and really have to go in the snow, get a set of narrower winter rims/snow tires, swap them fall and spring, and you're all set (but not as pretty). I did that when I lived in NE Ohio.
SE vs SE anniv edition: the only things that would be worth some extra $ to me on the anniv edition are the limited slip diff with 5 speed, perforated leather and maybe the cool pedals. If I have trans problems under warranty (dream on!) I'll see if I can get the LSD retrofitted.
Joe
Sterling Mist - Black Leather
Every option but 6-disc
in CT, paid $26,216
I pick it up Wed, hope they don't pull that BS with the interest rate, or the lose a sale. On Mon they call me to tell me if I qualify for 6.9% which I should
Thanks all for the help.
Joe
Motor Trend and Freshalloy.com both clearly state that the 2002 Maxima will get the 3.5L engine. Follow the links below for further information about the 3.5L engine in model year 2002 for the Maxima.
http://www.motortrend.com/future/index.html
http://www.freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/nissan_matrix.html
George