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For the rest of the Intrigue mystery, my feeling is the car is jinxed!!!!
The Intrigue's struts are not prone to squeaky operation; in fact at 26k on the 98 the struts were great, and at 50k on the 99 they are still like new.. Both cars subjected to a heavy foot operation..
The common fault of the front struts is the noise level due to the strut bearing which as far as I know is not a squeaky event..
The transmission problem is out of my area; but probably due to excessive abuse..
The gas mileage is due to the same cause as the transmission failure, pedal to the metal..
The above is just an opinion after 76k miles in two Intrigues which were pushed but not abused..With GM phasing out Olds, there probably isn't too much they will do to help anyone..
As many forum members know, I had my day with the 98 and I was treated well.. The 99 was my Waterloo, and I will never complain..So far it has performed with the best..Having a 0 ded extended warranty through 75k miles I ain't worried about a thing..If the 3.5 blows, call Mr Goodwrench!!!
We are just starting to here about tranny problems in the intrigue. I guess they have some mileage on them now. Mine was flawlwss as is most of the regulars on this board.
I imagine you are hard on it.
jussomeguy : Can't believe what you pay. That's more than double what my premium is at. Your mileage is wrong too. Get that checked out. 3800 is a very fuel efficient V6. Did you buy this car used??
I must say, I remember paying that much. I was 19, though.
My insurance was $2000 a year! This was in 1986.
The car i was driving was a '85 IROC-Z. Probably had something to do with it. LOL.
~~ God Bless the U.S.A.
I am with prudential which is about $400-500 less a year than State farm was.
SC has high insurance rates due to the uneducated idiots we have on our highways.
I pay about C$1100/ year or U$750.
Don't get me wrong; please don't go out and buy one based on my previous statement..If everything works then I consider it a success; and I truly believe many people are too fussy..
50k+ with no known ills; it ain't babied either..It does have a nice dry garage when not in use, and has a regular oil change every 2500/3000..
Gets a bath every week at some commerical laundry and is smooooooth on the interstate..
Caddy runs great I guess; nobody has complained; so it starts, stops, cools, and plays music without any hitches..
My insurance is 1200/yr with the Intrigue at unlimited mileage/business use and the Caddy rated as a performance vehicle..no points for the two of us..Full coverage with high deductibles..
Good forum and really hate to see the Intrigue phased out for there is no domestic replacement..I will not go to a 3.8 or a non-domestic brand..So i guess I will drive the current crop longer until someone duplicates the 99 3.5..
The only domestic coming close to my requirements is the Chrysler 300M with the Euro suspension..I can get a loaded one for around 24,500..Don't get huffy because it won't happen until they correct a few boners..
I think I agree with you that a lot of people are too fussy. I think maybe you have reason to be if you have a U$30k+ car, but when my friend drives a Maxima and complains about every little noise the car makes you start to think maybe some people expect a little to much out of a mass produced car.
We all know this was a problem in 98-99 cars. Mine is a 3/2000 build, so it looks like there are some 2000s with this too.
I'm going to leave it alone for several thousand miles more, though. I want it to be good and noticable, so that the technician can't write down "cannot duplicate" when I go for service.
This will be my first warranty repair.
"U.S. automakers are donating money, personnel,
vehicles and blood to assist the relief effort following
Tuesday's terror attacks. Among the efforts, both GM
and Ford are making available trucks, vans and sport
utility vehicles for the disaster recovery efforts."
..Wonder when Toyota/Lexus, Acura/Honda and other non USA makers who have workers here will step up. Nevertheless, glad I drive an American maker's car today, the Intrigue, and that same maker is contributing vehicles and money to the rescue effort now, as opposed to later, unlike some others listed above. God Bless America!
It's nice that GM and Ford are putting in the effort.
I think the GM & Ford will, in a big way.
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Discount Tire had Yoko make a tire for them called YK 420 that looks very good but the closest size is 235/55/16. Would that work well on the Intrigue?
I went the Pilot route for they are round and lack any rumble due to hard spots or cord overlap..I didn't shop around for any bargains for I don't need the grief of crappy tires..The Pilots balanced perfect on the first try which is enough for a celebration..
I am a vibration fanatic for out-of-balance or out-of-round tires drive me crazy. I like stiff suspensions; not the blvd ride--Buick float or the rocking chair motion..
Good Luck in your tire hunt..along the way with 43 cars I have been through the mill on tires.. I avoid General, Uniroyal, and Pirelli..
225/60R-16 = 225 divided by 25.4mm = 8.8 inches.
8.8 inches X 60% = 5.3 inches. 5.3 inches X 2 =
10.6 inches. 10.6 inches + 16 inches = 26.6 inches tall.
235/55R-16= 235 divided by 25.4mm = 9.25 inches.
9.25inches X 55% = 5.1 inches. 5.1 inches X 2 =
10.2 inches. 10.2 inches + 16 inches = 26.2 inches tall.
The Yokahomas would be slightly shorter than the Goodyears that are on the car now.
bz4 : I think Bill gives quite a bit these days though.
Did you hear that Microsoft's Flight Simulator had the ability to use the WTC as a target?
Why in conversation? My friend's friend was at this station when the awful happened. It did not took much time to run from here - not like with the people who worked at the 60-ths and 90-ths floors. She was frightened, but absolutely nothing serios.
Several hours passed, though, before she could call her family, and they were very afraid.
b4z : I heard about the new Flight Sim. Apparently it's being taken out. This tragedy has huge effects on just about every industry. It really is going to change the way we live on this continent and it's not for the better. These are very troubled times.
Running the government on the cheap? Taxing gas more? These are all statements that run counter to the way our government should be run. First of all we are taxed way too much.
I am self employed and am creamed by FICA every year. If every American had to do estimated taxes like i do, instead of getting them withheld and then getting a "refund" in May, we would be taxed a lot less than we are now. In fact there would be a genuine tax revolt.
As far as a increased gas tax, no way. Americans drive SUV's because they were driven in to them by CAFE regulations that made passenger cars incompatible with their lifestyles. SUV's are popular because the whole family and their stuff and the 18 ft ski boat can be hauled by them. When was the last time you saw a passenge car with a trailer hitch down at the local boat ramp. SUV's are the station wagons of our generation. Personally i hate them, but believe that we should not legislate them out of existence.
Caught a stone and starred the windshield..Had to replace the 98 Intrigue windshield also..Replaced the 98 windshield for 110; I imagine this one will run at least twice that amount..
Let's not ask the government to increase our taxes; for they will find a way to finance anything needed..
Less freedoms and more taxes....come on folks..banish the thought....
The closest Olds dealer to me closed his doors this last Friday..Never had bought a car from them; but utilized their service on the 98 Intrigue until I got fed up with them.. The dealer was Drummy Olds and they also carried the Suzuki lineup..Also the article said that Olsen Olds in Livonia had given up the fight.. Bill Lee Olds is where I have had the last six oil changes done and they are not looking too swift long term; but I understand they are looking for an additional franchise..
FoMoCo has suspended production this week due to lack of parts caused by tightened security at the border crossings. A golfing friend spent a couple days in Toronto last week; however the return trip over the Bluewater bridge consumed 6hrs..
We need a quiet week....
Good luck on the road!
6363 : Boarder crossings are ok for non commercial traffic now. Local Ford and Honda plants were shut down last week due to lack of parts. Commercial traffic is still bogged down from what I hear. What a mess.
merkx : Sometimes I wonder if they had put Oldsmobile badge on the first Intrigues and pushed the name whether things would have been different. Many people still look at my car and say "who makes Intrigue?".
just had the intermediate drive shaft replaced for the second time--was replaced about 10 months ago at 22 k, now done at 31 k. in addition, dealer replaced the power steering system. drive shaft and power steering system were "worn" and "rusty". about 6 months ago sprang leak in coolant system.
car is coming up on end of waranty--(december)
any advice on getting gm to extend waranty--on affected parts so far? entire car? if so what terms?
Have used the warranty once for a flat tire service on my way to the tire shop for the Michelin Pilots..
Any steering problems will eat up money in a hurry, and it could pay off big time..If I had the 3.8 engine I wouldn't bother going the extra expense; but with the 3.5s love for speed it was an easy decision..
Since most owners are in for the long haul it could be a good move and if you decide to sell privately then it is a great sales tool..Believe me..a used Intrigue is not the most popular car..
The intermediate shaft is a part I assume has gone through many engineering changes and will be a money maker for Mr. Goodwrench in the coming years..
Issues concerning the Intrigue are best discussed with your dealer while you are holding an extended warranty policy in your little paw....
Dealers look at those papers and he sees a blank check...
6363, that is sad to see Olds dealers closing like that. The closest to me is an Olds-GMC-Mitsu dealer so I guess they won't close. It just tees me off to think that a half assed brand like Mitusbishi is still going to be around and Olds is going away. The dealer I purchased the car from is a Chevy-Pontiac-Olds-Buick-GMC shop so I know they will still be around. In fact, one salesman said they were flirting with the idea of trying to pick up Cadillac. Can't comment on the service department at that one as I haven't had to use it.
Finally took a close look at a 02 Intrigue yesterday. Local lot has 1 in stock. Pathetic. It was a GL with cloth seats. Noticed nothing different from the 00/01 models. Also looked at the 02 Aleros. They had three in stock, all with the new 2.2L Ecotech. List prices seem a bit higher, but maybe that's my imagination.
What was pathetic? The car or the fact he only had one?
I got 29 mpg in mine and it was rated at 27mpg.
Ya.. they only had one Intrigue. Pathetic. You would think a large dealer like this one would have at least 3 or 4. They had about 10 Cavaliers and 8 Impalas.
proceded down the road and spins out. They say that they wanted to inject some excitement into a boring market-4dr. mid size cars. Sorry Nissan, Olds was there first, as was Pontiac.
Nevertheless, wish Olds had done ads like this, instead of its "campaign or invisibleness".
Parked my Intrigue next to an 02 Camry last night. Intrigue is a much better looking car IMO. Camry is better than it was, but I'd take an 02 Altima over a Camry any day
The car is pretty, but it does have its weird details, namely the clustered tail lights and the small segment of the rear side window.
However, it's built with el cheapo materials, such as the hard plastic on the dashboard and the vinyl-like leather.
A 2.5 L4 with 180HP fully loaded stickered at about $24K, while one with the same accessories, but with the 240HP 3.5 V6, about $26K.
I think that the car was well thought out, even though Nissan's owner, Renault, added its not so nice touches to an otherwise promising car.
About the new Camry, also personally checked from up close this weekend, is a better balanced car than the Altima, IMO. Except the for ridiculous pricing: the cheapest V6, with no leather or auto AC, is above $26K. Reasonably equipped and it stickered at over $28K.
:^P