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It can be of you own personal X-Type or not.
My wife drives a 2001 Lexus ES. It is a wonderful car.
I decided that 2004 is the time for me to get a nice car so I saved up $35k. Here's my dilemma.
All my life I always wanted a Jaguar. I love the styling of the 2004 Jaguar X-type 3.0. I have rented Jaguars in the past and I must say you definitely get the VIP treatment when you pull up in a Jaguar. I like the X-Type because it is unique. You don't see too many on the road.
I was all set to buy a 2004 X-Type 3.0 and BAM, along comes the Acura 2004 TL.
I have never been a fan of the styling of the Acura in the past but the 2004 model is fairly sporty (It looks like a BMW 5 Series).
I want a manual transmission with the navigation system. The technology and features on the 2004 Acura TL blew me away. The Acura TL will probably come in around $34,000, the Jaguar X-Type 3.0 will probably come in around $38,000 but I think you could probably get a deal for around $35,000 because of low demand. The Jaguar with a 5 speed manual transmission is not easy to come by.
Here's what I love about the Jaguar: Styling, AWD, the prestige, folding real seats, hood ornament and leather and wood interior. Here are my concerns about the Jaguar: price, build quality, reliability, and availability of parts.
Here is what I like about the Acura TL: the price, the features, the technology, the horsepower, 6 speed manual transmission, the many standard features. My concerns are as follows: Looks and I’m not sure you will get the same VIP treatment with the Acura as with the Jaguar.
Edmunds really likes the Acura TL and is lukewarm about the Jaguar X-Type. I think the looks of the TL are pretty good but the Jaguar looks really unique. The Jaguar makes my heart beat skip (Pure emotional appeal) but I want a car that is sporty, fun to drive, super reliable, super safe, practical, luxurious and reasonably priced. I know that I'm asking for a lot but for me $35K is a lot of money, so I want to make the best decision possible. My wife’s Lexus ES is the perfect car, it is not very sporty but it really excels in every other area. The build quality of her car is outstanding.
I don’t want to spend more than $34,500 for my dream car (With sales taxes and other expenses added to this 35K number, I'm well into the high 30's, my goal was to stay in the low 30's). Please help me by sharing your thoughts and opinions on the two cars that I mentioned above. What car would you buy and why? What are your thoughts about Jaguar and Acura?
When should I buy my car to get the best deal?
Thanks.
I think you have answered your own question with your likes of the Jaguar. It is an emotional thing as well as pragmatic. There is just something about a Jaguar........ There is no comparison of course between the front wheel drive and rear or AWD. I have an early build 10/01 XType 3.0 and couldn't be happier. It has been dead reliable and my wife absolutely adores the car. I assume you posted the same question on the Acura board so that should help. Also, your profile doesn't say where you live. If you get snow, the AWD is awesome.
That is at least $10,000 more than the Jaguar 3.0. You have been comparing the wrong car if you can go this price. You should have been looking at the SType Jaguar; price wise and rear drive only wise.
Outside of that, if you can get a 5 series for the same price as the X-Type and you're happy with the look of the Beemer, go for it.
JAG
Have you driven an AWD car before? It will give you a much better feel of the road and will be more stable in heavy rain and bad winter weather.
I don't mean to try persuade you. I feel that you would not have come to this board if you didn't have an interest in the X-Type. I've never driven a BMW so I cannot compare the two. I can only tell you that I'm very pleased with my 3.0 manual.
IMHO BMW's are dull looking and there's so many on the road that they are no longer distinctive.
I have the premium sound from 2002. 10 speakers, 180 watts. It sounds great and seems to fill up the car since the car is not very big. The new sound system must really be spectactular.
JAG
It looks like you're still on your search. My advice is to take your time and get the car you want. I'd also recommend being carefull not to over spend on a car. Be sure to take into considerantion the insurance, maintenance, etc. on your car. Insurance for a male under 25 is usually high to begin with; a $40K BMW isn't going to help. You don't want to work just for your car.
Anyways, good luck with your search. Let us know how you make out.
Like I said, I haven't driven the other cars but I can tell you that the 3.0 X-Type has a great deal of peppiness (is that a word?) and will merge on a busy highway with ease.
Good luck with your choice.
JAG
this car is something else.........i felt so good in the car that i literally hated getting back into the Silverado.
the dealer couldn't have been any nicer as well.........we selected what we feel we'd like (color and options) and they are going to bring one in so that we can decide if it is what we want..........no obligation to buy it, just make sure that it's what we want, or maybe upgrade even further.
problem now is whether or not to go for the 3.0 package............any suggestions?
BTW, we were at one time interested in Beemers as well, but no AWD?.........forget it.
i have been reading through this thread have have seen some complaints about auto transmission failures...........my real estate agent has a '02 that has had the transmission and driveline replaced due to failure.
you said you were interested in a bimmer. but lost interest because of awd. bmw offers awd in the 330 (330 xi) as well as the 325 (325 xi) - you might want to look into it. personally, i'd get the x (especially now with the price drop on the 3.0), but so you don't wonder "what if" a visit to the local bmw shop might be in order.
comparably equipped, an 04 x-type 3.0 is now about $5K-$7K less than an 04 330 xi.
I would take a chance on reliability if I could get warranty service near home or work. Right now, it would be a huge hassle to get warranty repairs done.
I heard they are thinking about combining Jaguar and Range Rover dealerships.
There is a RR dealer a more resonable distance from work, so I might take the gamble if that plan ever comes to life and I could get maintenance and warranty work done there.
it'll be about a month before we make the purchase as we are closing escrow on our new home, then the car............we've decided on the 3.0...........thanks to you all and i'll do a followup when i bring it home........;-))
obviously the head unit is the same, but is the standard system capable of owner upgrades?
what i need to find out is if it's worth paying the extra for the upgraded system...........
No question the Jag is far superior in every facet EXCEPT engine power. The Infiniti G35 is screaming fast (and currently has an engine recall) and a Jag is a Jag. The AWD got us through last winter's North Eastern blizzard with flying colors. The gas mileage is also superior to that of the G35.
I have nothing to say but good things about the Jag and the fine service provided.
I thought the X was a rebadged Ford, some model sold in Europe (Mondeo?)? Anybody know how different the X is from the Ford version?
the x-type doesn't share a single -- not 1 -- visible part with the mondeo. it shares 6 hardpoints on the chassis, that's it! in total (including things like water pumps, screws, etc) it shares less than 20% of parts with the mondeo. The Lexus RX shares more than 60% with the camry!
audis are far more similar to vw's and the new chrysler crossfire is far more similar to a c-class MB than the x is to the mondeo.
as for the buttons looking "fordish" i understand this is subjective, but based on facts alone, not a single ford has the same buttons. the only cars that have the buttons are other jags and astons.
Seelig - that sounds like the price many of us paid (or leased) for the 2.5L in early '03. Does it include many options? If so, then go for it!
Is your car an '02 or an '03? The '02 had many more problems, so I would get the warranty. If it is an '03, consider purchasing a warranty from a third-party.
Also, are there good Jaguar mechanics in your area?
we also went and looked @ a G35 AWD, but I'm leary of that car since I know that they won't be comming down in prices, yet the regular ones they are willing to deal a bit... as for my father he doesn't like any of them he still likes the MB 230 Kompressor sedan out of them.... but its the smaller than them so I have to talk to him... he also likes the new E class and if he wants to pay the difference and let me get into an E MB well then I'm all for it...