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I saw that you dealt with a fleet manager at your dealership.So i am in process of buying a 09' c class sport in houston,TX.So was wondering if you could give me any tips in dealing with fleet manager as i already contacted him and he called me back but luckily i couldn't take his call so now with your help i could maybe get good price.
i have 2 questions
1. would fleet manager deal with me ie a single car buyer or would he ask me to contact sales only.If he would deal with me then why would he as they generally give us cheaper prices right?
2.And can i negotitate at invoice price or just nod to whatever he says as it would generally be a good price.
Thanks
I am also considering the '08 ML purchase or Lease howevr have been told how good the X5 with the smaller V6, 4 liter engine is.... why did you like it? and didn't you feel the Cayenne was BAD on fe?
Nice car - though, I agree!
Please give me your opinion? I don't know which car to buy and am not sure the BMW dealers around me (CT) will deal much (not like Mercedes is right now, that's for sure!)
thanks,
k
can you give me your deal info when you get it -- I am dealing with same thing - corporate - fleet discount-family connection, so on...
~ don't know how they work these deals either but have got some pretty good prices -- only thng is I was pricing out the 08 R350's and they can't give those cars away.... so haven't yet asked about ML's. Do you really plan to buy one of them and did you find in your research they compare favorably to the BMW's (X5, smaller engine, etc.)?
any thoughts would be appreciated ---
i am not into suv's yet but for me x5's are not so beautiful as for according to my opinion bmw's are power and sporty vehicles and mercs are beautiful vehicles.I already own a z4 so am planning to go to a sedan with sporty look.
I am going tomorrow to test drive a ML350. It is a 2008 lease car for sale with ~ 14000 miles on it. The dealership has it listed for $38754. Obviously, the car is still the current year but I am concerned that the price is higher than I should pay.
Any feedback would be great!
If you still want to get this leased one, I'd say 15k off the original MSRP would be reasonable
btw where are you located, maybe I can help further
2008 320 CDI
Package 1
Heated front seats
I pod integration
trailer hitch
MSRP $51,220
39 month lease
15,000 miles per year
Total due at delivery $679 (1st month plus $90)
$589 per month tax included (tax rate is 6.75%)
Seems like a great deal. Is it? Even with the refresh for 2009, this seems to good to pass up.
Thanks for your reply
Talked with many dealers, couldn't get the $10,000 off MSRP. It wasn't that big a hassle to get it down to $9500 off MSRP, though only 1 dealer would touch that price. Fletcher Jones Mercedes (largest mercedes dealer) wouldn't go any lower than $9000 off MSRP..even though they have a LOT of 2008 ML350's in stock.
MSRP = $49000
Purchased Price = $39500 + tax and license
Dealer i got it from has no more 2008 ML350 left, that was the last one.
Good luck!
2009 ML350
P2, Lighting, Heated Seats
MSRP: 54895
Selling Price: 48250
33 Mo. Lease
3,000 drive off
$650/month including Tax
Thanks
I am trying to buy one. Do you guys think this is a good timing? :P
I am planning to buy 2009 ML350 class with Premium package 1 option. I had a test drive and really liked this SUV. One dealer offered me $50,500 for 2009 ML350. But I have read and heard some great deals on 2008 models. Can any one please let me know what the best deal and price will be for 2009 models? I would really appreciate for sharing your recent 2009 ML350 buying experience.
Thanks in advance!
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Thanks,
Neil
I could not get FJ to quote me anything over the phone, did that happen to you?
2009 ML350
P2 Package
Running Boards
Lighting Package
Front Heated Seats
Tow Package
Chrome Handle Inserts
Entertainment Pre-Wiring
MSRP 57660
Selling Price: 49438
3k Drive-Off (including 1st month)
12k/year
33mo lease
$589+tax
Thanks
I also feel the interior of the Lexus comes off sort of cheap as well-looks sort of cheap and "plastic-y". Also, and this is just totally a pet peeve of mine, I can't justify paying more money for the Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, etc. brands because I feel at heart they are Toyotas, Nissans, Hondas, etc.
IMO, Benz cars drive better, are safer and more solidly built. The Lexus do seem to be very maintenance friendly, but in the long run, I'm a fan of Mercedes Benz more than any other and can't see myself leaving the brand for anything else. Have you driven both yet? I notice a difference even in the way the doors close, etc. Just a more solid vehicle overall but that's just my opinion. Good luck either way--
Also, currently drive a Lexus GS300 that I have loved- loved the service (sewell), the car, etc. And am considering the GX. I prefer the ML from a style perspective but having no experience with the dealer am concerned about service and reliability compared to the Lexus. Anyone have good/bad experiences with switching from Lexus to MB?
2009 ML350 w/P1, heated seats, blah, blah
MSRP $52,695
Price $44,616
$8079 off MSRP = 15% off MSRP
Your proposed deal:
MSRP: $55,670
Price: $48,720
$6950 off MSRP = 12% off MSRP
Just my thoughts...
As for MB Tex vs. leather-I'm a HUGE tex fan. It is very comfortable and wears really well. (I have kids too) I have the black but know friends with macademia (tan)---black of course holds up best with grass stains from cleats, etc.
I definitely would go for the ML-I have the 08 and wish I had the time to wait for the 09 but had to turn in another car. 09 is great from all reports. I will definitely stick with the M line and am looking for another MB after next lease turn in. I haven't really had any huge issues service wise, but when I had a problem with a tire, my dealership got us right in, loaner and out. Can't speak for other dealerships/other states. Regardless, best of luck to you--
We choose the base package (P00). This trim still leaves you with a great car. We weren't too concerned with DVD screens, running boards, heated seats among other things. With the base package, the price of the car was well under the X5's and comparable to the Volvo XC90 V8.
We looked at the XC90. Overall it was nice and good for the price. Our issue was the V6. It seemed too hollow from the sounds when you gave it some gas. It was worked too hard just to get enough speed to enter the highway. We take lots of trips to the mountain for skiing so a little more under the hood is reassuring in the higher elevations.
The new X5 is a nice looking car but just not worth the big price tag in our opinion. We are turning in our X3 shortly. The X3 was a nice vehicle but with our newborn, there just wasn't enough room (I'm 6'4" and leg room is a necessity). The ML has plenty of space, especially in the trunk.
We looked at the Touareg. Really liked the design and look. However the consumer report ratings were surprisingly low. We didn't even test drive.
Our experience was good at the dealership. The negotiations went smoother than I expected. There was some back-and-forth but not too bad. Below is the initial deal our salesman pitched to me followed to the deal I got:
2009 - ML320 BlueTEC 4dr SUV AWD (3.0L 6cyl Turbodiesel 7A)
MSRP: ~49,600 (I'm rounding here)
Their current "special", no negotiation:
Monthly lease payment: $579/mo
Lease factor: 2.14 or .0009
Dealer Discount: $1,600 off MSRP
3 year/36 month lease
10,000 miles a year. $0.25/mile afterward
~4,200 down (roughly. I dont remember the exact $ amount)
This deal comes out to $1,200 over invoice/dealer cost
After negotiations:
Lease factor: 1.80 (versus the 2.14 in the initial offere). Their cost is 1.44 so their profit was 70 basis points before negotiations. I said I would split the difference, which is how I received the 1.80. Might have gotten it lower but I wanted to focus on the price of the vehicle to get the bulk of my savings.
Ultimate/Final Price: $100 over invoice of ~46,600
Lease Term: same, 3 years
At this point the lease payment was ~615/month, give or take. I told him at $600 even we have a deal. They said yes.
Note: We increased the mileage to 15,000/year which increased the payment ~70/month. If we left if at 10,000, the payment would have been in the low $500's.
I suggest you first lock in a lower Lease Factor and set the miles/per. Then ask for the invoice. ALWAYS negotiate from the invoice. In my case, there was a $1,200 difference. I would chipping away from the bottom up which in the end helps you out and reduced their negotiating power.
They still made an ok profit as I left a little meat on the bone. There was more room to go but I didn't have enough info for a strong argument. The dealership receives factory rebates and volume discounts after they sell a vehicle so in my case their profit was more than the $100 over invoice. Another point: They get taxed on vehicles that remain on the lot at the end of each month so you can make the point that your saving them $ by taking it off their hands.
Last point (I know this is a long post). They had a ton of cars there, which is good from a buyers perspective and made the negotiations a little less painless. Feel free to ask me any follow up questions.
Thanks
He wound up getting a similar deal-P1 car-White/Black/Heated Seats and i-POD integration and they threw in the phone pod -$2K out of pocket and 499/mo 12K miles/year. I don't know how many dealers have the numbers and honestly explain the situation to buyers but it's worth looking into if you are looking now. He wasn't going for a diesel but when they offered him the deal, it made no sense not to do it. Can't really argue with it.
As for the diesel lease, if you have DEPP support you can really clean up if you are willing to drive diesel. I think there are alot more diesels around right now for whatever reason.
This new deal I was able to pick up...
I'm looking at a certified 2007 ML 350 4matic with tex, HK sound, 6 disc changer...basic car with 24k miles. The price is 34k and they are offering it to me for 27,900. Is this a good price? The car looks immaculate. We are in AZ and this is an AZ car (according to carfax).
What should I offer?
Thanks!!
2009 ML350 2WD with Premium Package 2, Aluminum running boards, and a trailer hitch.
MSRP 53,255
Invoice 50,089
They will sell it for 50,389 and give us 0.9% financing for 66 months. How is this price?
:shades:
Invoice- 54850
Paid 53500 (after 1500 cashback from mb finance)
Financed at 1.9%.
Seemed fair.....
comments?