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I've been searching for a C230 with the Sunroof package and the memory seats. Possibly adding the iPod integration at a later time. I was quoted about $31,800 here in the Bay Area. I'm going into a San Francisco dealer this weekend who said they won't reject any reasonable offer for Memorial Day.....any ideas on what a "Reasonable offer" would be to toss at them? Or does 31800 seem like a good deal from the other dealer? :confuse:
Thanks!
The car I saw was this:
2006 C230 Sport 2.5L V6 RWD
CPO
Alabaster White w/ MB tex Black
13000 miles
Sunroof package
Auto tranny
Dealer offers 2011 or 100K maintenance warranty
Single CD player
Rain sensors
Standard speakers
Dealer asks $27,900 +TTL
Found the exact same car with 15000 miles + real ash leather upholstery + 50K warranty still stands but it's a NON CPO for $26,585 +TTL at a non-MB dealership
How much should I pay for the CPO?? I'd like to go there and tell him to match the price but is $26K even too expensive for a 2006 sport when the 2008s are coming out in August??! Please help!
I'm not willing to pay more than $27000 for a 2006
Here's how it happened. All these cars I weighted pros and cons. VW was out due the fact I had my Passat for 5 years, so it's time for a different brand. Audi TT was nice, was ultimately not pratical. A6 was too big, A4 is basically another Passat. Land Rover LR2 is so nice, friend of mine bought one it's amazing but it's heavy and uses a lots of fuel and it had too much off road capability that I won't need driving in sunny streets of OC. BMWs are fantastic cars but dealers suck big time, they were so cocky and rude, even the nice ones are difficult to deal with when comes to pricing!! Santa Monica BMW is the worst, they actually made fun of me of my offer and was totally unprofessional. The 525i is nice looking but sluggish, and expensive, hard to find sport pkg so it was ruled out. The 328i drove so nice and handled so well, I've made a serious effort to buy it but just wasn't my luck, the dealers were not helpful because they had a hot product, driving wise better than anything. However, quality of material, and content wise BMW is a joke. At near $40K sticker, the exhaust pipes are not even chromed! Mercedes uses AMG exhaust pipes. A 07 328i with auto, nav and spt pkg is near $40K, with no power or heated seat, not even close when compared to Mercedes. I know 328i is a newer platform and current C is at the end of its cycle therefore is loaded. So I almost got the 328I for $33.5K slightly used at 5K miles with auto, nav, and sport, had to twist some arms to get that, they asked for $35K, it was very difficult to get even $1500 discount, I suppose that's why BMW has insane resell value but was not a pleaseant experiance.
Shopping for Mercedes was not easy either, I had to try every dealer in town and finally find one that I could work with. I almost went for the hot new
C300 but then realize no discount is possible and no dealers are willing to deal and with loaded model without Nav (delayed), I was looking at over
$40K!! Common sense got hold of me, I started looking into C230 sport for a good deal and I found one! I think for a fully loaded near $40K car, and get it for $33K plus taxes and fees is pretty awesome! I figured including incentive$2000, and dealer holdback 3% from MRSP, deduct from Edmund's dealer invoice, deal is $800 under dealer's cost! At this price C230 is looking pretty hot!!
Anymore, I feel I finally got a beautiful car at a reasonable pricing!!
I bought the car over EBay and kept wondering what was wrong with the car/deal. However, everything went about as smooth as could be with no unpleasant surprises. The internet department at the dealer, Mercedes Benz of Tampa, was outstanding. We handled 99% of the transaction over the internet/phone--no hassles. The salesman picked us up at the airport and took us straight to the car. I drove the car, signed the paperwork and was on the road in about an hour. No hard sell on extended warranty, paint protection, or other garbage. The only issue was the high dealer doc fee: $599. The car was so cheap, I didn't even bother trying to fight it (besides, it was fully disclosed up front).
From sales to finance to delivery, everyone was courteous, professional and knowledgeable. I'd buy another car from them in a NY minute...
BTW, I wasn't even looking to buy an MB. I haven't sold my BMW yet and I really wanted another Corvette. However the price was so good that I couldn't pass it up. Also, the 6 speed manual trans won't be available on the 08 C350...
What percentage do you think they made in a stick-shift? 1-2%?
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I kept waiting for them to spring their trap, but the deal went smooth as silk. I'd definitely buy from MB Tampa again.
To whom it may concern,
I would like to express my horrible experience at your dealership on August 23rd, 2007. I am an avid customer of the Japanese cars for their reliability and wanted to venture out to the European market because of the new C class sport design. Although on paper, the C-class is inferior to its Japanese competitors (G35, IS350, TL), I would like to see what it can offer first hand. Anxious and excited to test drive the new C300 Sport; I left work a little early. Upon my arrival at the undersized dealership, I was greeted warmly by the receptionist. She promptly contacted the salesperson whom I have arranged to meet. After some small talk we went to look at the Sport model on your rooftop. While the salesperson was looking for the key, I was perusing what seemed to be an elegant vehicle. Shortly, he came back to request my drivers license to make a copy. I politely refused because of the increase in identity theft. I have also heard that some dealership would run your credit score without authorization, so naturally, I had refuse the salesperson to copy my license and offered him to review or inspect it, instead. The salesperson became unprofessionally belligerent and yelling at me for excuses which required my license. “How are you going to buy a car?!!” and turned his back on me and left as though your dealership was the only place I can shop. Wow! Here I am thinking I was in a classy dealership selling classy cars. I had offered to not take a test drive and just look at the car but obviously, the conversation had ended for he turned his back and left. This unprofessional demeanor left a bad taste for my outlook on what seemed to be such a potential vehicle. In fact, I was so disgusted that I will probably not consider the Mercedes brand. Maybe I should have worn a suit rather showing up in jeans. Maybe if I interested in something more than an entry level Mercedes, or maybe if I would have been a white and not a young Asian looking kid, I would have been treated more like a potential customer. But I guess one less customer of an entry level car will not affect your bottom line.
We are reading that 'credit crunch' will eventually affect the car sales. Will people with cash get better deals?
This is obviously a huge oversimplification...
I used to work for BMW as a product specialist and am now with Mercedes. Living in Germany, we don't seem to have too many problems with identity theft as that culture is comparatively honest as opposed to the states.
At BMW when the license was taken, (we didn't photocopy it but scanned it into the computer directly) it is for the sole purpose of entering you in a database called autobase which provides a couple of things. First, it's a record of your visit to the dealership so if you are interested in the car and do return to purchase, your info links you to a specific client advisor who is familiar with your needs. Secondly, it is usu. required (whether by dealership/state policy, varies)if you want to take the car for a test drive, it's a verification of a valid license. This is to cover the dealership in case of an unfortunate incident such as the car being wrecked/stolen on the test drive. In the state of georgia, if you are viewing real estate or even an apartment, a license or picture id is required and left secured during your "viewing" as a precautionary measure in case the realtor or landlord is murdered (apparently this has happened enough to necessitate the practice).
Your assigned client advisor should have explained that point to you. I can't imagine why he wouldn't have. While i cannot condone his unprofessionalism, let it be known that some of the "old school" sales people may react that way due to their feeling that "time is money" and if you're just kicking tires, you may not be seriously looking to buy which is your prerogative. Showing any sign of apprehension obviously set him off into his defensive mode of "this person thinks i'm the enemy" which is a common classification of people in sales.
AGAIN let me emphasize, i don't condone his attitude towards you. Most highline dealerships do not usu. pressure people but there is always the exception to the rule.
Ideally, he should have explained why the license data was necessary and to reassure you even show you the process. Secondly, if there is a product specialist around, you can always ask them for info such as a brochure and perhaps even a walk around (usu. there are open vehicles in the showroom) If the dealership allows, you can usu. talk to them without feeling they are trying to sell you.
I used to be a japanese car fan (honda crx's, nissan z32 tt's) but when i started driving BMW's, i've never looked back. In Germany, an E46 3series coupe was about a $5000 premium over a loaded Accord Ex with the difference being the safety features (DSC, side curtain airbags). Bear in mind that while the japanese cars are a good product, the German approach is somewhat different. German automanufacturers subscribe to the ideal of logic and performance with innovative tech, while the Japanese seem to focus on intuitiveness and reliability with gadgets galore. Neither approach is incorrect, just different schools of thought. The reason i love the Germany cars is, after 10 years of driving the autobahns, you appreciate the braking and driving dynamics of german cars vs. the japanese ones. German cars are engineered to run at triple digit speeds all day long (which might explain why they languish in the states.) and brake without issue. Compare an Acura TSX braking system to a stock bmw. (no i'm not going to count the brembos available on the z's and the wrx's)
Finally to address the points of dress or racial stereotyping, unfortunately, that is the world in which we live. People do perceive others using certain standards. But that in itself is subjective. In Europe, people do tend to be a bit dressier and while races are very distinct, cultures seem to be more appreciated for their uniqueness. (you should ask my iranian friend how he feels, living in the states). As a person of asian descent myself, it was a very rare occasion i ever felt that my race was a factor but moreso, attitude and how you present yourself.
Well i've gone on way too long. If there are any questions regarding Mercedes that i may assist you with, don't hesitate to ask. I've been off these forums for a while but looking to jump back in!
This also applies to others who may need some details about Mercedes or BMW's. I'm in the North Atlanta area.
Regards all,
Mit freundlichen Gruessen (to my fellow german speakers)
Greg (oberpfallz on the boards)
If you were selling your $35000 car, I bet you won't simply hand over the keys to a potential buyer for a test drive. Put yourself in the salesman position and think about how you would feel if the other party is suspecting your motives from the get go for no reason.
Having said that, the sleazy used car dealer that you mentioned did let you know about the credit check before he actually ran it. I agree it is unnecessary to check credit when paying cash but the point is you will be made aware of before they actually check it.
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Anyone agree/disagree? Did I have a defective vehicle? Was it just not broken in? This one had just come in that day I was told.
I'd guess that the dealership tech neglected to remove them before your test drive.
The tire pressure may not have been checked, either. Usually, they increase the pressure for shipping.
regards,
kyfdx
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"I alternated between comfort and sport suspension modes,but the result was the same."
This new (nor old) C class does not have a comfort or sport SUSPENSION mode. It does have an option to put the transmission in comfort or sport mode. Comfort mode starts the transmission in second gear, sport mode in first gear.
I have not driven the new '08 C class, but I do own the 2005 C230K sedan with sport package. The ride is very smooth especially during highway cruising. Mercedes are know for their comfortable ride. I suspect that you were had a car that in some way was abused. I highly suggest going for another test drive prior to making your car purchase decision. Best of luck.
The last three cars I bought were all hot when they first arrived. You know sold at MSRP plus whatever else they could load up on the car - plus they were doing me a favor selling me the car. I waited six months and got a good deal. If I had waited even longer, probably could have gotten an even better deal.
Local dealer (Tampa Bay Area) offered to order C300 Luxury in metallic paint for $32,300 (34,500 OTD (6%tax)... no other options --- for old people like us, it is easier to set a budget and then deal in OTD figures. We tried to compare what we get at Lexus and Acura.
We are OK with waiting a few months and we are not interested in any of the premium packages MB is offering on C300 Lux. We set a firm 34k OTD budget. What do you all think? Is 34.5k OTD too much (I guess for a buyer every number is too much) for C300 Lux with no other options but metallic paint?
We looked at the EDProgram ... the local dealer wants to match it.
Given the configuration you mentioned, the invoice is $32,032 and the MSRP is $34,385. Thus you're paying about $270 over invoice or $2k+ off MSRP.
I've been pricing the C300 & C350 Sport in my state (California) and most dealerships are not willing to negotiate more than a few hundred dollars off MSRP. I finally found two dealerships willing to accept $250 over invoice, but this was after contacting about 15 MB dealerships in both Southern and Northern California and negotiating quite a bit....so I'd say your offer was very good.
I don't think you could beat the price until the 2009 models arrive and even then it probably won't be a significant amount over what you already negotiated.
The '07 seems to be a better 'value' especially since I usually sell my existing car and purchase a new one every few yrs (I already looked into leasing and buying is better for me). Any thoughts on the pros & cons of purchasing the "old" bodystyle & the value of the '07?
Also, I have an '03 SLK320 that handles wells and has a lot of power. I've driven several C230 loaners over the years while my vehicle is being serviced, but never in conditions that required rapid acceleration etc. Will the C-class, especially the '07, seem to lag in comparison to an SLK?
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I don't think you're comparing apples to apples. The new C300 will smoke the 07 230. Given your quandary, I'd push for a couple grand more off the 08 and go that way.
Do you know that MB charges C300 Lux buyers $260 extra for the Lux Grille? This must be a rip-off.
Your $10k off MSRP is a fabulous price!! I would've gone w/the 07 350 too if I procured such a great offer.
wow, $260 extra for the lux grille...that's steep. I went w/the 300 sport and pick it up tomorrow. I noticed there's an "IRG" charge of $500. I'll find out exactly what it is prior to signing the purchase agreement, but I have a feeling it's a dealer 'marketing' mark-up. Hmm.
If you reside in OC and you procure a good offer, I'd go w/Fletcher as they offer several perks such as complimentary airport service. You can drop your car off at the dealership and they'll drive you to the airport. They keep your car and wash it while you're on vacation/business then pick you up from the airport. I hope this helps. :-)
Why they charge extra for what is a standard option I don't know. The dealer adds anything to increase the bottom line.
Good luck with your C300!
Which dealerships in NorCal accepted your offer of $250 over invoice? Also, which dealerships were not willing to negotiate? I'm about to start the process for a c350. Thanks in advance.
Autobahn Motors in Belmont, Berberian in Stockton, and MB of El Dorado Hills were all willing to negotiate and ultimately accept/match 250 over inv. I made initial contact via the Internet Dept. I decided to go w/Autobahn as they were pleasant and professional at all times.
MB of Sac, MB of SF, and Smythe European were not willing to negotiate. Note there is a $500 IRG Participation fee, which is a MB marketing charge, that varies by region (of course, CA region is the highest). It's built into the MSRP so if you'll only see it if you review the true dealer invoice. Good luck. :-)
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