2013 and earlier Honda Odyssey Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • ddwmewddwmew Member Posts: 42
    MinivanDan,

    What city in OH is dealing on Odysseys?
  • rick93serick93se Member Posts: 10
    After calling every dealer in the area, I couldn't do any better than MSRP on the '02. (EX in Granite Green) There was a two week wait for the car, which came in right on time last week. The salesperson gave me a vin number when I left my deposit, and kept in touch to let me know when the car left the factory, and was right on target on the delivery date. The dealer documentation fee of $125 sounded reasonable as well. Overall the experience was fine. The car was preped very well, and I have zero complaints about anything delivery-related on the car. I would also recommend the dealership (Bernardi in Framingham) since they really did make the process easy.

    Their MSRP beat the heck out of a few other local dealerships that had Odysseys "in stock at MSRP". Of course, from them you have to buy $1,500 in useless accessories at a huge mark-up to get the car.

    After spending a lot of time shopping around and on this site, I find the overall sales process confusing, and don't understand why the dealerships aren't interested in even trying to set up customers for repeat business. It seems that dealerships simply hold buyers in contempt, since we are "lucky" to be able to get a car from them. They are wrangling every last nickel in a manner that seems ridiculous considering how much money they make on the car. I simply cannot believe that an extra $200 is worth losing a customer for the next car purchase.

    We had wanted to trade-in our '90 Accord with 100k miles ($2.7k bluebook). We figured anything around $2k would make up for the hassle of selling the car ourselves. One dealer offered $200. Another offered $800.

    One dealership offered "expedited delivery" on an Odyssey since one of their customers had just cancelled, and I could get that car in two weeks. Two weeks after I placed the order, I was told that a "mistake" was made, and if I wanted the car I would need to wait until February!

    The actual sales process I had to deal with was a bit more benign, although doing a little homework sure helps. Since we were paying MSRP, the sales manager offered the accessories (mud flaps, cassette, cargo liner and wheel locks) at dealer cost. A quick check to Handa found the exact same items at $150 below "dealer cost". They met the price, muttering something about the price that the sales department pays the parts department for the items. (The manager even said that the money was "chump change" considering the overall cost of the car. Since they wanted me to pay the extra money, I guess that I'm supposed to be the chump.)

    I also loved the way that Honda Care warranty is sold. The dealership quoted $1,400 for the 7/100/$0 to my wife when she came in to sign the paperwork. When I called to question the price, the salesperson dropped the price to $1,100 on the spot. I guess that warranties are not accessories from the "dealer cost" promise perspective. It must be another one of those interdepartmental price wars or something!

    We also got an entertaining story about how you can't buy the warranty after leaving the lot, which changed to you can buy it for a year, but have to pay extra, etc... (Ultimately, I went in with an $875 quote from another dealership, thanks to this site, but they would not go below $1,043. They stated that they would be losing money to sell it at $875.)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    You know what needs to happen? The 2003 Sienna. Toyota has a longer warranty, and the competition is really needed to get Honda dealers in line.

    -juice
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    You can sell that car yourselves & get $3000/$3500 for it!!
  • hoyahenryhoyahenry Member Posts: 399
    Kia Sedona.

    Leather, ABS, sunroof, fog lights std, 60/60 warranty (10/100 drivetrain).

    <$23K out the door and in my driveway.

    Honda can... sorry, this is a family show... did me a HUGE favor. If you're waiting for a Honda - go drive this vehicle!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I did, actually. It's a few small things shy of being a major pain in Honda's...neck:

    * no folding seat
    * a little small, little cargo w/3rd seat in place
    * driver's lumbar support on EX is very uncomfy

    Really, the last item was a deal killer for me. I actually much prefer the seats in the LX, but it does not come with captain's chairs.

    -juice
  • hoyahenryhoyahenry Member Posts: 399
    * rear, rear vent window controls
    * fog lights
    * alpine stereo cd/cassette

    Don't take that the wrong way - I can definitely see that if the seat isn't comfortable, that's a problem. On the other hand, it might be fixable for a small fraction of the $6K not being spent, but that's a potential hassle waiting to happen. I zeroed out the lumbar support which fixed it, but I didn't really notice it until driving for an hour.

    Fog lights, sunroof and gear shift configuration were the small points for me, besides saving $5K+.

    The driving feel in the Kia is less cavernous than the Honda, Dodge and Ford vans, which I like.

    I could afford to give up the magic seat. All of the seats adjust fore and aft which adds some space flexibility. I think that folding, removing and stowing the middle seats in the rear might be able to provide similar just-in-time cargo flexibility while still providing seating for 5. I know - not the same but worthy of consideration.

    Bottom line is that there will be small things with every vehicle and every person. Each person then calculates a value. When I ordered my H/EX, the Sedona didn't really exist. In the end, I got more of the features I wanted for less money, which came on top of 2.9 financing. I also like having 5,000 other small things to count after all is said and done.

    Again, opinions will vary - just my perspective. I don't see any reason to get in a side-by-side comparison [non-permissible content removed]-for-tat, if this post inadvertently comes across that way please excuse.

    For prospective buyers, the most impressive fact is that Kia picked up on alot of cues from previous generations of minivans and executed on implementing many of those details right out of the gate.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I tried all the adjustments, it still felt like I was sitting with a deflated football on my back. Weird, like I said the LX was fine. Maybe it's just the way I sit, or my shape.

    Moonroof is a biggie. You can't get one on the Odyssey, which I think is a bummer. There's always the aftermarket, but if I have to pay more for a moonroof and an extended warranty, I'm not sure I can afford it.

    Actually, some people really prefer the 3 people in the 2nd row seat flexibility, such as my buddy, who has 3 kids. He'll have to put one of them in the rear seat, I guess. For me, the Odyssey's seating configuration would work better, since we're expecting our 2nd (and that'll be it for us).

    So, true, Kia can learn a few magic tricks from Honda, like the seat and all the room, but Honda could learn from Kia, too. Two big pluses would be a factory moonroof option and a longer warranty.

    Competition improves the breed.

    -juice
  • webe3webe3 Member Posts: 3
    Does anyone know of a los angeles area dealer that sells EXs below MSRP? Any good referrals for financing? What is the going rate?
  • js2002js2002 Member Posts: 2
    It took 15 months, but last month we finally got our UBS mesa beige Odyssey EX. We added only a dealer-installed Honda cassette player. Honda's list price, including installed cassette and $440 destination is $27,473. The full UBS price we paid was $24,960 plus tax and tags. There was no additional processing or administrative fee, since UBS doesn't allow that. The transaction went very smoothly, and there were no surprises. Folks at the dealership were courteous and easy to work with. Sean was our salesman.

    Clearly, the wait was very long, so it's not for everyone. But if you don't have an emergency need for a new vehicle and can cope with seriously delayed gratification, UBS is an incredible deal. So far as I know, UBS operates only here in the Washington, D.C. area and has only one Honda dealer they work with. It's Brown's Honda in Arlington, VA, but you can't go there directly. You have to work through UBS or else Brown's will treat you like any other customer and charge MSRP, but your wait will be much shorter. (I know this, because a friend bought through them and paid MSRP with a two or three week wait.)

    If you are in the Washington, D.C. area, especially if you work in a government office, you may be able to pick up a UBS brochure in your credit union or employee association. Their phone number is 301-657-1920. You don't have to pay them any money and there is no deposit required to get a purchase certificate and get on the waiting list. We didn't pay a cent until the day we went in to get our Odyssey.

    As far as the vehicle itself goes, we love it. The workmanship is top notch, and the Odyssey is a pleasure to drive. We're glad we finally got it.
  • webe3webe3 Member Posts: 3
    Do I understand it correctly? Can the Honda Care Extended Warranty be purchased within the first 12,000 miles and from any dealer,not necessarily just the one that the van was purchased from?

    If this is true, anyone know of a name of a Honda dealer that will sell 100k/7 yr extended warranty at a good price. I am considering buying the 02 Ody EX and to have all of my homework done when I approach the dealer.
  • mbrassettembrassette Member Posts: 3
    Looking for a 2002 LX in the Houston area. Where are the good deals and anyone seen any on lots lately? Applieu, where were you getting the MSRP - $600 offers plus freebies??

    Thanks!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Wow, I will definitely take a look at the UBS. I am in DC and can afford to be patient. That is a HUGE discount!

    Thanks.

    -juice
  • bcarroll8bcarroll8 Member Posts: 4
    I was just offered $26,750 on a 2002 EX. After Destination and taxes my driveout would be $29,454 but I am waiting for a driveout of $28,300. I should get it in about 6 weeks.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Jason, they're still MSRP or more.
  • gocanesgocanes Member Posts: 3
    Does anyone know of good price in south florida? I have talked to several dealers and they say MSRP, and no dealer fees and then be put on a waiting list for the White EX-L.

    Thanks
  • inkyinky Member Posts: 370
    Autonews.com has number of Alabama Odyssey at around 1500 for December 01. Not a big dent--yet.
    Next month will be 2500 Alabama and 12000 Canada--so getting up there. Question is how will new Pilot fit in all of this.
    2000 production and 2001 production are nearly identical at aroun 149,000 Odyssey per year. 40,000 MDX now per year. It will be interesting to see how many hot new Pilots are made. 70,000 Pilot SUV forecast, 60,000 MDX and 200,000 Odyssey is my guess. So I do see discounts creeping in over the next half year. $500 at first, $1000 next and then stabalized at around $1200 off MSRP.
    Man I would like to be a Honda dealer with so many MSRP cars out there. They should give loaners with those margins. I have seen no perks with increased profitability in my area. I resent that. At least Lexus treats you well for paying a premium.
    INKY
  • goingreachinggoingreaching Member Posts: 1
    Has anyone found MSRP or better on an EX anywhere around the LA area; e.g., Orange, San Diego, Riverside communities ok. Thanks.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    All the time, Mike. The deals are out there if you just look hard enough. Nothing better than MSRP, I'm afraid, and availability is limited.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    inky: good point about the dealers. I think more people would be OK with paying the premium if at least they felt like they got the red carpet.

    -juice
  • webe3webe3 Member Posts: 3
    RICK93SE, I agree with you regarding the purchase process. My experience thus far in dealing with 5 dealers in the LA area is less than stellar. As we know the EX is in great demand. When I offered to put a cc deposit to hold the car in good faith and requested a vin number for 48 hours until I could physically get down to the dealer, the salesman told me he could not do that stating that someone else in the meantime might offer more. It seems to me that not accepting a deposit in the hopes of making perhaps a few more bucks is rather short sited.

    The dealer is trying to tell me that there are few dealers willing to sell the warranty after the sale of the van. What dealership did you ultimately buy the extended warranty at?
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Jason, you're talking to the wrong dealers. There are guys in LA who will put you on their list and they won't bump you even if someone else offers more for the car.
  • odymanoutodymanout Member Posts: 2
    I started getting quotes on Odysseys in the Atlanta area in October and they were consistently $2000 above MSRP. As of January 7, I have an offer of almost $500 below MSRP, but I am waiting for $1200 below MSRP to make the purchase. Has anybody seen this price?
  • brown33brown33 Member Posts: 11
    js2002,

    Why did you have to wait 15 months to get the Odyssey through UBS? I have seen the UBS flyers at my credit union and was curious as to the deals you could get through them.
  • lss1lss1 Member Posts: 21
    put down deposit three weeks ago. got call last night in transit. not sure if alabama or canada. dealign with hersons honda-rockville MD. gettign at MSRP.

    To last post--most dealers exclude the odyssey from UBS. similarly, in costco's auto program the odessey is excluded.
  • tnordentnorden Member Posts: 1
    In looking at the new van inventories of several Odyssey dealers, I noticed several with VIN numbers beginning with 5. I understand 1 and 2 but what does anyone know what the 5 means?
  • ddwmewddwmew Member Posts: 42
    Here is a sample VIN.

    1 G8 ZH859 X Y N 190510

    1 Country in which vehicle was built, see below
    G8 Code for the manufacturer
    ZH859 Codes for brand, body style, engine size and type
    X Security code used to verify VIN by police
    Y Model year, see below
    N Code for assembly plant
    190510 Serial number, numbering practices determined by manufacturer

    1, 4, 5 - USA
    2 - Canada
    3- Mexico, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica
    6 - Australia
    9 - Brazil
    J - Japan
    K - South Korea
    L - Taiwan
    S - United Kingdom
    V - France, Yugoslavia
    W - Germany
    Y - Sweden
    Z - Italy A - 1980
    B - 1981
    C - 1982
    D - 1983
    E - 1984
    F - 1985
    G - 1986
    H - 1987
    J - 1988
    K - 1989
    L - 1990
    M - 1991 N - 1992
    P - 1993
    R - 1994
    S - 1995
    T - 1996
    V - 1997
    W - 1998
    X - 1999
    Y - 2000
    1 - 2001
    2 - 2002
  • rick93serick93se Member Posts: 10
    I bought a 7/100/$0 warranty at the end of December 2001 for $875 from Tracy Dalton of Alton Blakely Honda in KY. She can be reached at (800)264-3275 or tdabh@yahoo.com . You may need to try her a few times, since I think that she gets a LOT of calls!!

    I just got my EX (12/27/01) after a three week wait. I put down a deposit over the phone and got the VIN at the same time. I get the feeling that the "plain old" EX doesn't have much of a wait. The EX-L, on the other hand, looks to have a 2 - 3 month wait list.

    I paid MSRP, of course. With the arrival of child #3 I don't have the time that odymanout has : )!
  • bkmom30ishbkmom30ish Member Posts: 1
    I am trying to figure out what the best approach is. I am in the Atlanta
    area and the best I can get is $1,250 for 7/100,000 no deductible. That
    is for the hondacare. I got a $850 with a $50 deductible with one of the
    non honda-care.

    I was considering buying a 2002 with a warranty and paying less than I will
    have to just buying the silly warranty. Someone said you had until 25,000 before
    they jacked the prices up.......now I am reading 12,000 oops.

    Someone in ATL got 500 below MSRP. Where did you get that quote from? I
    am getting 200 about TMV.

    bkmom
  • js2002js2002 Member Posts: 2
    There's only one dealer participating in UBS for Odysseys, and the waiting list is long. They don't devote their entire supply to UBS, and I don't know what percentage they are willing (or obligated) to sell under UBS. But as a hypothetical example, for every 40 Odysseys they get in, they might sell 10 through UBS and 30 for MSRP. As a result it takes a long time to work your way up the waiting list. For other vehicles through UBS, such as a Sienna or Chrysler van, there is no waiting list.
  • bcarroll8bcarroll8 Member Posts: 4
    I have a quote of $26,750 ($40 below MSRP) from Ed Voyels. I agree with Odymanout and have decided to wait and see how far prices will drop over the next 8 to 12 weeks.
  • inkyinky Member Posts: 370
    that is more insulting than MSRP. I agree, patience may yield a discount soon. That supply to demand curve will meet in next 60 days then the dream of Odyssey in stock and $1,000 discount may, just may, come true. The production numbers are promising from Alabama. The pilot card will come into play. If that thing is absolutely hot, Honda will make more of them. Remember Honda can change production ratios easily at new facilities in Canada and Alambama. let us know how you do. Funny thing to me is the marked increase in used Odyssey in my paper. Is the bubble about to burst? How would you feel if you bought the non improved 01 Odyssey in August for MSRP plus?

    INKY
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I read that they're planning to move most or all of Ody production to the 'bama plant, so the SUVs ought to be built in Canada.

    -juice
  • suburbiasuburbia Member Posts: 2
    After much shopping around in the DC metro area and getting the same deal from just about everyone (1100 over MSRP plus large ad/processing fees) we purchased an '02 Ody EX GG from a dealer just two hours down interstate 81 (in Staunton) with 2 week wait, $59 processing fee, at MSRP. We had a great experience with them and were not hassled or made to beg for the car. Unfortunately, we are going to sell the car as it is more car than we need, but it is truly a great van, comfortable, and our buying experience was much better by leaving the DC area. If anyone has the time to explore this option, I urge you to check out the out of area dealers...especially if prices ever drop or production increases.
  • dehuadehua Member Posts: 4
    I just got my 02 GG EX Ody from Barber Honda in Bakersfield over the weekend. Ralph Tinco, internet sales manager had ads on yahoo auto site and sale at MSRP. It was one of the best dealership experience I had in past 5 years. He is very courtesy and straight forward, no extra option attached. The whole transaction took around 2 hours and I am on my way home. He told me that he only sells at MSRP, actually, he mentioned that he still has a while EX available. So if you live either in bay area or LA and won't mind travel a bit inland, give Ralph a call, his cell number is 661-333-3203

    -dehua
  • carleton1carleton1 Member Posts: 560
    Dealers here have always sold at MSRP + the "Documentation Fee" charged at all dealerships. The fee averages $250. There was a 2 to 3 month waiting list on December 29 so it will take some time just to fill the back orders.
    When supply increases, the value of the used Odysseys may drop...slightly.
    The supply of used Odysseys has probably increased because the 2002 is a nice improvement over the 99-01 and current owners of pre-2002 want the nicer 2002.
  • bcarroll8bcarroll8 Member Posts: 4
    EX's without Leather are available on lots with no wait at every dealer I dealt with in the Atlanta area and the quotes I have received have dropped from $2K over MSRP in October to just under MSRP today. I know they will drop further.

    carleton1 suggests that used Odysseys are becoming more common because of 02 features but I have a hard time believing that families with young children will sell 1 or 2 year old Odysseys for which they paid premiums so they can buy the latest. I think layoffs are a more logical explaniation of the increase in used Odysseys.
  • duna1duna1 Member Posts: 1
    we are looking for a silver LX and are in no huury. any ideas for ways to save. we live in richmond, va and are willing to drive.
  • bargain_hunterbargain_hunter Member Posts: 4
    anyone know a good contact # at american honda corporate to pitch a [non-permissible content removed] about dealers running roughshod over customers with the odyssey.

    hoping to get someone at corporate to lean on a local dealer to stop playing games & give me a straight deal. i'm in the bay area.

    thanx
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    The manufacturer has little control over the dealer with regards to pricing. If you have a problem with your local dealer the best way to teach him a lesson is to buy elsewhere.
  • jmnygaardjmnygaard Member Posts: 48
    Try Spreen Honda in Loma Linda (909)799-7070. Ask for Veronica or Kathy Thompson. They were selling at MSRP with no unexpected extra charges in Sept.-Oct., so they probably are now, too. I did get an EX-L at MSRP in San Diego, at Pacific Honda. It took about 6 weeks. At the time, they had been selling all Odysseys for $685 over MSRP, but they let me have it at MSRP so they wouldn't lose the business to Spreen.

    Pacific Honda did rip me off for the extended warranty, though. The guy flat out lied. (FYI--it does NOT cost more for the warranty if you have the DVD system). I got my money back, though, and got the warranty from Tracy at Alton Blakely Honda in KY.
  • wholiganwholigan Member Posts: 148
    That begs the question...
    #1 - If I own an EX-L with RES, does the HondaCare warranty cover the RES?
    #2 - If I own an EX-L with Navi, does the HondaCare warranty cover the Navi?
    Better yet, has anybody needed warranty work on these yet?
    TIA-
    Wholigan
    2003 Honda Odyssey EX-LRES - Midnight Blue Pearl
    2004 Honda Accord EX-L Graphite Pearl
    2007 Honda Civic EX - Atomic Blue
    2013 Honda Civic LX - Crimson Pearl
  • lss1lss1 Member Posts: 21
    on the way after a 3 week wait. should be in over next day or two. Hersons honda-rockville MD--at list. As i have understood, the shift to alabama is mainly a plant shift--overall production is increasing, but not dramatically.(?)

    while not thrilled to pay list, i think one also has to look at features. looked at sienna--nice van, but honda bigger and with two kids need the room. difference of toyota at about $400 over invoice and Honda at list was less than $1000. For that price bigger van, traction control, and a variety of other odds and ends that sienna did not come with. One could argue that honda is "underpriced" If Honda increased the prices by another few thousand, i am sure that they would not sell at list. In the end, it is all relative.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's an interesting question, why don't they? Seems like dealers are getting the most benefit from the Ody's popularity, not customers or Honda.

    -juice
  • dclar07dclar07 Member Posts: 3
    I'm getting quotes from the dealer for 5.8% for 5 years with excellent credit. Does anyone know if a lender has a lower rate for a new Odyssey EXL?
  • bobbetbobbet Member Posts: 1
    I just bought an '02 EX-L at MSRP from a dealership in VA. Beach, VA. The dealer gave me splash guards and a cargo tray at no charge. I also got the 7yr/10000/0 warranty for $875. Delivery date is mid Feburary. Our loan rate was 5.5%/60 mos. through ABNB.
  • fernandogfernandog Member Posts: 3
    I am curious. Which model did you get from Hersons in Rockville, MD in only 3 weeks? That time frame is very short compared to other dealers in the DC area.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They told me 3 months' wait when I visited them.

    -juice
  • tony1034tony1034 Member Posts: 32
    Just drove the van last night at David Michael's Honda in Freehold, NJ. First time driving the van and was impressed with the interior space. We also test drove a Toyota Sequoia and the van had much more leg room and you can go from the front to the back w/o climbing over consoles and seats. (I know, totally two different vehicles, but after last night my wife and I are convinced the Minivan would be better w/ 3 kids and is much cheaper)They are an MSRP dealership. I'm looking for EX w/ Leather and DVD. Called 10 dealerships in Monmouth/Ocean/Middlesex and Mercer counties. All were MSRP. Taking orders for March deliveries.
  • dclar07dclar07 Member Posts: 3
    Are you sure you want that DVD? At first I thought it would be nice also, but the more I thought about it I decided to go with a portable DVD available through many web sites. The technology is getting better every few months. The screens are getting bigger and more clear. They are becoming more durable. Able to withstand the temp fluctuations. Since they are portable, if you're on vacation you could remove it from your van and watch DVD inside. They make straps to safely support the portable between the two front seats for easy viewing for the people in the back. They sell for $500-1000 so they are a little cheaper. Prices should keep falling too. You can hide it under the seats to avoid being stolen. And if it breaks, since it's not stuck to your roof you can get it repaired and still keep your van.
    Just some things to think about. Good luck and God bless.
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