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rbirns1 "Volvo XC90 SUV" Feb 1, 2003 2:50pm
Steve, Host
Well, the H2 engineers have done an excellent job imho. How else would you get the ground clearance that H2 provides?
I think if I were spending that money on a monster SUV, I would be going with the Infiniti.
GM doesn't get the word "luxury." I would also say anybody spending over $50k and not getting "luxury" is a fool. But the H2 screams, look at me, I think I'm cool in my bad GM.
Thanks,
Jeannine Fallon
PR Director
Edmunds.com
In the news, GM has bummer with Hummer (Oakland Tribune)
Steve, Host
Dream is over, having hard time fitting to parking
spaces, guzzels gas (wish had Diesel),
no power, afraid to take it off road-to expensive body repairs. Rough and hard interior. Big sizing
is not the answer here.
I am toying with the idea of the Hummer, but hoping rebates will increase a bit more for the H2.
superszingusa, how much of a loss did you take. A lightly used H2 may be the way for me to go.
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Steve, Host
So far, no creeks or rattles here. I have 24000 miles on a 2003.
By the way, I've had 4x4's all my driving life (35 yrs) including 2 Range Rovers and a Jeep and the H2 is the best by far!
1. To get the stupid business expense credit.
2. To advertise a business on the side of it.
3. To do offroad tours as a part of a business.
4. To keep at the hunting cabin for SERIOUS offroading.
I cannot imagine one reason why someone would want a Hummer as their "everyday drive vehicle" or just to have as a family hauler.
Everytime I see a woman driving one of those beasts I think, "why on Earth?" I cant see any scenario in which a married woman would choose this vehicle to drive, and a single woman ABSOLUTELY has no business buying or driving one.
Don't give me the "it's bigger and safer" argument either because there are smaller vehicles with better safety ratings. And big SUVs are notorious for rolling over, making them actually LESS SAFE than many smaller vehicles.
Can anyone educate me? Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to understand American society in 2005 so I can explain things to my kids. Thanks !!!
This discussion is about the pros and cons of the vehicle. If you want to discuss whether people should drive an otherwise street-legal rig, try News & Views.
Or go browse the archived I don't like SUVs, why do you? board.
Steve, Host
........Not trying to start a flame war..........
Two apparently irreconcilable statements.
It seems that you have an agenda somewhat different to your stated question.
Let's get back to the SUV and get away from characterizing individuals please.
Steve, Host
I've been into the HUMMER (no called H1) since I saw it around 1994. I like it because of its capabilities and its looks.
Does it great mileage, no, of course not, but both the H1 and H2 are comparable to other similiar sized vehicles.
Is it worse for the environment than a midsize SUV? Sure, but again its no worse than other vehicles in its class?
Safety, sure vehicles with higher center of gravities TYPICALLY have a higher tendency to rollover. BUT, one, the H1s width makes it exteremely stable even though it has a high center of gravity and two, rollover accidents are rare and deaths in a rollover accident is even more rare than a normal accident.
I'm into the H1 because ONLY because I like its looks and capabilities. I don't care if a vehicle is exclusive, the current status quo, or any other nonsense.
What I don't get is why the HUMMER brand gets all the bad attention, they're not any worse than their competitors.
It might have something to do with its weight, size and horrible fuel economy.
they're not any worse than their competitors.
Who would that be? The Hummer is simply without peers in terms of its offroad capabilities. (BTW - does anyone offroad with theirs?)
tidester, host
H2 would be other SUVs of similiar size.
The older H1s with 6.5T and 4 speed trannys average slightly over 12 mpg. The newer ones are high 12s to low 13s. The Optmizers are slightly over 13. Compare those numbers with other trucks with the 6.5T and you'll see the H1 get the same numbers.
I not really sure about the H2s since I don't really follow them, but from what I read in the past the first year H2s average about 12 the second years high 12 to 13. Compare the H2 to other vehicles of similiar size with similiar engines and you'll see the H2 is about the same.
Tahoe vs H2? I really can't say, I don't follow H2 closely.
There is no real competitor to the H1, but a small Unimog would come close. The Mercedes G Wagon and Range Rovers don't come close. That's not to say that they're not capable vehicles, just that they're very different to the H1.
1. I do not live in the country
2. I do not go off road
3. I am 27 years old
4. I do not care what you think
In 2003 I was talked out of buying a Hummer H2 and settled for an Eddie Bauer Expedition. To say that I have been unhappy since is a bit of an understatement. Now my Ford is almost out of warranty and I cannot get rid of it fast enough. I am going to FINALLY get my long awaited H2 next month. Every person I have talked to that owns one won't stop going on and on about how much they love it. And my local Hummer dealer knows me by name since I am always checking his inventory and drooling the whole time.
So to all of those that are offended :P
My Expedition only gets 13 mpg, and has for the past three years. So please, if you are going to try and scold me for my choice, make sure that you check you facts and don't just emotionally fly off the handle spouting half truths and flat out lies.
To everyone else, I will update when I get my truck and let you know how things go, but from what I have seen and heard I will not be disappointed.
Has anyone on here been the victim of any vandalism such as spray paint, keying, broken windows, etc. simply because they are driving an H2? I hope this is not something that will get much response, but I would really like to know.